Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

Hello Manuel, On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 15:17 +0200, Manuel Molina Cuberos wrote: > Thanks for the hint. > I toasted another CD with the image you suggested. > Launched the installation and everything was working up to the mirror > selection stage. > I added one mirror (deb.debian.org) but from the e

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

Hi Ed! Thanks for the hint. I toasted another CD with the image you suggested. Launched the installation and everything was working up to the mirror selection stage. I added one mirror (deb.debian.org) but from the error reported and the looks of the log, it seems that the current contents of the

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

Hi Manuel On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 23:50, Manuel Molina Cuberos wrote: > > Hi all! > > I have several PowerPC based computers. One of them is an iMac G3/500 DV SE > (powermac2,2) with 1 GB RAM and 30 GB hard drive. > > I've had it with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it's out of support already. It worked >

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:11:11 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I assume the new kernel works fine on your PowerBook G4 so far? It does - I didn't give it thorough testing yet, but it boots without any hiccups. I spotted some BT complaint which likely is unrelated. Now I've got to find o

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:04 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > The reason for this failure is the bug #1076564 [1]. > > I had guessed that (I even have the bug page open) but that one seems to be > somewhat spurious ... in any case, the new kernel made it, so for now I'm > happy I assume the ne

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:01:04 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:55 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > > > in th

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:55 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > > in the Advanced Options menu of GRUB. You can then install 6.11.x from > > experimen

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > in the Advanced Options menu of GRUB. You can then install 6.11.x from > experimental where this issue has been fixed - once the kernel package has >

Re: OpenMW patch?

On Mon, 2024-10-07 at 17:09 -0300, Link Electronics wrote: > I noticed that openmw has a package in the repository, but it is outdated. > I compiled the project + LuaJIT from the OpenResty's branch and MyGUI from > source. I can open openmw launcher, but it doesn't detect the game files, > it seems

Re: Booting OS X from grub

Hi Adrian, On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 12:42, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello Ed, > > On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 12:35 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > > Picking up from the other thread... this is about booting OS X on > > apple ppc hardware when grub is being used to boot Linux. > > Ah, that's a comp

Re: Booting OS X from grub

Hello Ed, On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 12:35 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > Picking up from the other thread... this is about booting OS X on > apple ppc hardware when grub is being used to boot Linux. Ah, that's a completely different problem then. I don't actually know whether GRUB can load other bootload

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

Hi Ed, On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 10:59 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > > > But I see no difference upon rebooting the machine. Am I missing > > > something? > > > > You actually did not bless the bootloader folder. From the grub-installer > > script [1]: > > > > # hattrib -c UNIX -t tbxi :System:Librar

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

Hi Adrian, On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 09:52, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 23:38 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > > I just tried this, and blessed the file with: > > > > hmount /dev/sda2 > > hattrib -c UNIX -t tbxi :System:Library:CoreServices:BootX > > humount > > > > But I see

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 23:38 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > I just tried this, and blessed the file with: > > hmount /dev/sda2 > hattrib -c UNIX -t tbxi :System:Library:CoreServices:BootX > humount > > But I see no difference upon rebooting the machine. Am I missing something? You actually did not bl

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 23:38, Ed Robbins wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 05:26, Ben Westover wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > It turns out that adding &device; alone is not enough since it refers to > > only the drive and not the partition along with it. &device;:&partition; > > is what

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

Hi Ben, On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 05:26, Ben Westover wrote: > > Hello, > > It turns out that adding &device; alone is not enough since it refers to > only the drive and not the partition along with it. &device;:&partition; > is what was actually needed. Fixed script is attached. I just tried this,

Re: R: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

and > windfarm spinning like a Jet. > > Kind Regards > Luigi > -- > *Da:* Link Electronics > *Inviato:* venerdì 13 settembre 2024 02:40 > *A:* luigi burdo > *Cc:* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ; > debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > *Oggetto:*

Re: R: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

Hi Link, On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 12:52 -0300, Link Electronics wrote: > Since Adrian already suspected a driver issue, I reported the issue on mesa > gitlab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/11933 with a photo > of the problem It seems like something will be merged for the next mesa

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 08:45 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > > I don't think it's actually really any difficult. > > Indeed, thank goodness it is so trivially easy to build things on debian. > I have build -- many things now. For one recent impressive one, the 64 bit > PPC version Lazarus has a long

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

> On Sep 28, 2024, at 6:31 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 06:14 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> But as detailed in the thread last November, I ran into trouble getting a >> build >> system working in debian PPC for the current Firefox code base. I asked for

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

Hello, There are lots of browsers. I tried to classify them by engine. Don't hesitate to notify errors or missing. Browsers based on Chromium are interesting because they integrate WebXR and can work with virtual reality . Browsers based on Mozilla Gecko engine :  - Firefox - GNU IceCat : htt

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

Hi, I tested on iMAC G5 with Radeon graphic card epiphany-browser : segmentation fault dillo -> better than links but no pictures, not very comfortable. CU Claudia Am Samstag, 28. September 2024, 14:58:36 CEST schrieb Ken Cunningham: > Firefox has been broken for some years. That’s not really

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 06:14 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > But as detailed in the thread last November, I ran into trouble getting a > build > system working in debian PPC for the current Firefox code base. I asked for  > help, but nothing was suggested. So that is still in a folder on my dual G5.

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

> On Sep 28, 2024, at 05:58, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > Firefox has been broken for some years. > > Of course it will be great if someday it were fixed. I have some practical experience coding in the FireFox code base— a few years ago Riccardo and I collaborated for a few weeks over the

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

Firefox has been broken for some years. That’s not really a matter of opinion :) :) Of course it will be great if someday it were fixed. Epiphany is OK for simple things like viewing the gnome help files, but you will likely find as I did it can’t handle most current web sites you may try. J

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 6:05 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello João, > > On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 10:36 +0100, João wrote: > > SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the > > distribution, > > and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian

Re: About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

Hello João, On Sat, 2024-09-28 at 10:36 +0100, João wrote: > SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the > distribution, > and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC, > and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser ava

About browsers (again) [was Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller]

Hello Ken, On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 03:29:57PM -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > We had previously decided that the best browser available for debian PPC was Surely the best browser is a matter of personal choice ;) > SeaLion (https://github.com/wicknix/SeaLion) is the best choice for PowerPC. >

Re: Another plug for a debian PowerPC FAQ for Apple systems ...

Hello Ken, On Fri, 2024-09-27 at 16:46 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > As per the last time this came up a couple of years ago, the same set of > questions with the same series of answers keep coming up every few months > on this list regarding installing debian on PowerPC macs. Adding to this, it

Re: Another plug for a debian PowerPC FAQ for Apple systems ...

On 2024-09-27, at 4:50 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I think there's a curated FAQ for PowerPC on the Debian wiki at > . Also see > . > > Jeff Thanks Jeff, I recall you were one of the folks interested in spearheading a curr

Re: Another plug for a debian PowerPC FAQ for Apple systems ...

On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 7:47 PM Ken Cunningham wrote: > > As per the last time this came up a couple of years ago, the same set of > questions with the same series of answers keep coming up every few months on > this list regarding installing debian on PowerPC macs. > > We had a few keen volunte

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

Hello, On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 22:47 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > @John: If I can help looking for the reason why firefox gives a segmentation > fault, tell me what I should do. Compiling software is not a problem to me. Firefox crashing on big-endian systems is a known issue, see: > https://bu

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

On 2024-09-27, at 2:50 PM, João wrote: > Hello Claudia, > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 22:47:54 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: >> As browser I use links2, not very comfortable. > > You may want to try Netsurf (https://packages.debian.org/sid/netsurf-gtk), > depending on what you do it may work better t

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

Hello Claudia, On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 22:47:54 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > As browser I use links2, not very comfortable. You may want to try Netsurf (https://packages.debian.org/sid/netsurf-gtk), depending on what you do it may work better thank links2. Have you tried Epiphany (https://package

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:54 AM Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 14:37:47 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > [...] > > > You will need to add "unreleased" to your sources.list to use it: > > > > deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main > > Many

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

Hi all, hi John, thanks to the new package b43-fwcutter the wlan works as expected. Many thanks to John Glaubitz! Now I can report, that the iMac G5 works with Debian Trixie/Sid: Hardware from hwinfo: cpu: PPC970FX, altivec supported, 2100 MHz monitor: Apple

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 15:53 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both > > powerpc > > and ppc64. It will be available by tonight. > > Even better! ;-) > > You will need to add "unreleased" to your sources.list to use it: > > >

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 13:09:00 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > FWIW on most of my machines "boot ud:,\\yaboot" will boot from USB, > but not all of them. > > On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 12:47, Steffen Grunewald > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > > > There ar

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 14:37:47 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Claudia, > > On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 14:00 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > > I downloaded firmware-b43-installer but cannot install it, because it wants > > b43-fwcutter. > > This package is only available für ppc64el not f

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

Great! Thx CU Claudia Neumann Am Donnerstag, 26. September 2024, 14:37:47 CEST schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hi Claudia, > > On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 14:00 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > > I succeeded in installing Debian trixie/sid on an iMac G5 with Radeon > > X550/X600 graphic card. I

Re: Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

Hi Claudia, On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 14:00 +0200, Claudia Neumann wrote: > I succeeded in installing Debian trixie/sid on an iMac G5 with Radeon > X550/X600 graphic > card. I am using Xfce and Links2 as webbrowser. > > Now I need wireless LAN. It has an Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) > 802.1

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

FWIW on most of my machines "boot ud:,\\yaboot" will boot from USB, but not all of them. On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 12:47, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > > There are hints in some forum threads that the A1095 indeed may be one of > > >

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > There are hints in some forum threads that the A1095 indeed may be one of > > few (perhaps the only?) G4 models that cannot boot from USB. > > BootROM version is 4.8.6f0, fwiw. > > That's frustrating. Can you confirm which partition

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Yo! I'm lost trying to make mental notes of my actual notes, but im om it and wont give 'much rest' till im halfway there, my best suggestion is to use OpenFirmware 'truckery' and boot grub to boot the proper ISO or env? On Tue, 24 Sep 2024, 13:42 Mark Cave-Ayland, wrote: > On 24/09/2024 10:21,

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On 24/09/2024 10:21, Steffen Grunewald wrote: On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 09:43:39 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: FWIW I did my last install on a G4 Mac Mini using a USB stick running Adrian's latest (at the time) image. I used dd to copy the netinst image to a USB stick, used "show-devs" to locate

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 09:43:39 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > FWIW I did my last install on a G4 Mac Mini using a USB stick running > Adrian's latest (at the time) image. I used dd to copy the netinst image to > a USB stick, used "show-devs" to locate the USB drive, and then tweaked the > cd a

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

quot;usbx" at least I get an error message.) Or am I just lacking some extra backslashes? Is this OF too old to do this job / to handle powerpc.elf? Got to re-read https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html next. FWIW I did my last install on a G4 Mac Mini using a US

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

get an error message.) Or am I just lacking some extra backslashes? Is this OF too old to do this job / to handle powerpc.elf? Got to re-read https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html next. Thanks so far - Steffen

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 03:26:30PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > > > That image is quite old. > > It must have served a purpose a whi

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 03:26:30PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > > > That image is quite old. > > It must have served a purpose a whi

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:31 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:26:30 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > after "You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF!". > > > > Whatever that asks me to do next... > > Hm, #1079755i (and #1079725). I should have remembered this. > I guess a

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:26:30 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > after "You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF!". > > Whatever that asks me to do next... Hm, #1079755i (and #1079725). I should have remembered this. I guess a reasonable workaround would be to use the kernel from the CD? - S

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi Adrian, On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > That image is quite old. It must have served a purpose a while ago, and this PowerBook is the only ARM device around, AFAICT. Hm. I'm pretty sure

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:13 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > I'm sorry I've got to chime in, but I'm currently lost trying to install > > Debian on a resuscitated PowerBook G4 - which got a new disk during the > > process (M.2

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi Steffen, On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:13 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > I'm sorry I've got to chime in, but I'm currently lost trying to install > Debian on a resuscitated PowerBook G4 - which got a new disk during the > process (M.2 128 GB "disk" in M.2-to-44-pin-IDE adapter) as the old one > m

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

It is very much the problem i will be trying to fix when https://github.com/threader/AltanOS/tree/main/src/ppc/linux_ppc32_deb is in order, it'll take some time to work out everything and clean up all and build from a buildroot or debian build. I'm going to visit the debian-installer soon anyway, i

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

What about installing from a qemu or debbootstrap from a usb/chroot and do some OF trickery? On Sun, 22 Sept 2024, 06:28 Ken Cunningham, wrote: > So the key points are: > > 1. you have to use the special ISO, and no other ISO than the latest > special ISO should be used. Right now, I think you'r

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

So the key points are: 1. you have to use the special ISO, and no other ISO than the latest special ISO should be used. Right now, I think you're still waiting to hear which ISO that is. 2. Do NOT believe any other website you might find or YouTube channel you might find that claims to tell you

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, Yes, I tried booting into the older kernel from GRUB.  In fact, attempting to load the latest kernel from the repositories causes the system to crash back to Open Firmware, as discussed previously. However, you mentioned that all further discussion should be based on a known

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Keeping an eye on everything 'boot' if anyone has any suggestions or thought's and notes of my notes, please let me know, im apparently trying to solve all the problems i can imagine; https://github.com/threader/AltanOS https://github.com/threader/xnu_gcc_libc_etc_darwin Im especially interested in

Re: Do libwebkitgtk based browsers work on ppc64?

Hello Adrian, Thank you for getting back to me and for all your work on Debian ppc. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 04:12:07PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Last time I tried, Epiphany even worked for me on 32-bit PowerPC, although it > was a bit slow on my iBook G4 laptop. It is good to kno

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Hi, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 17:45 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2024, 17:23 Leo Historias, > wrote: > > What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? > > As far as I understand Adrian does almost all of the debian powerpc > maintenance > (with some help here and there, not from m

Re: Do libwebkitgtk based browsers work on ppc64?

Hi João, On Thu, 2024-09-19 at 22:28 +0100, João wrote: > Do any of the browsers based on libwebkitgtk (like Epiphany or Surf from > suckless) work on ppc64? When trying to run Epiphany I get several libEGL and > GLib warnings and a non-functional browser window. Is this an issue with my > configu

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hi, On Thu, 2024-09-19 at 22:49 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > Great, which one is the proper image? Sorry, I was too busy and forgot looking for the recommended image. > I went ahead and tried this one: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ >   > The Ethernet worked during the ins

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, Great, which one is the proper image? I went ahead and tried this one: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ The Ethernet worked during the installation, but afterwards Debian doesn't detect it at all. On 9/12/24 02:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Cedar

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

There's https://basilisk-browser.org/download.shtml too. Le 15/09/2024 à 18:31, Riccardo Mottola a écrit : Hi, Leo Historias wrote: They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. because Moz

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Ah, I see. So you guys won't port the dependencies right now due to manpower. And you explained it well. So that's why you guys won't bring Firefox 115esr to powerpc yet until you bring node.js,which became a requirement 1 year ago. And thanks for clarifying I'm not too young,i will contribute la

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

On Sun, 15 Sep 2024, 17:23 Leo Historias, wrote: > What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? > As far as I understand Adrian does almost all of the debian powerpc maintenance (with some help here and there, not from me I'm afraid). Without him there would be no ppc or ppc64 debian: As fa

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Hi, Leo Historias wrote: They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. because Mozilla makes things unbuildable and unportable nowadays. Even if you could get it to run it would be full of en

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Hi, Leo Historias wrote: What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? And we need cross transpile? Okay, i could do it for you if only i had the skills necessary and I'm not too young (but being too young isn't neccesary for the reason not to do it,right? I'm 17,almost turning 18 next ye

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? And we need cross transpile? Okay, i could do it for you if only i had the skills necessary and I'm not too young (but being too young isn't neccesary for the reason not to do it,right? I'm 17,almost turning 18 next year!) Any alternatives in case

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 13:04 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > Thanks for your explanation,but  why Node.JS? Because Firefox upstream decided they want to transpile Javascript files during the build process instead of the development process. > Why don't we have it on ppc32? Because it's not been ful

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Thanks for your explanation,but why Node.JS? Why don't we have it on ppc32? One alternative is to build either Firefox using nodejsc or use a version of Firefox that requires rust but not Node.JS Em dom., 15 de set. de 2024 12:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> escreve

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Hello Leo, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 12:40 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > Still, we already have rust in the PPC32 repositories so why not compile > Firefox with that Rust? Ironically, even i386 has Firefox 115ESR and it > doesn't require sse2 at all unlike the official Firefox download page at > Mozil

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Ok, thanks for the update. Still, we already have rust in the PPC32 repositories so why not compile Firefox with that Rust? Ironically, even i386 has Firefox 115ESR and it doesn't require sse2 at all unlike the official Firefox download page at Mozilla. Em dom., 15 de set. de 2024 12:32, John Pau

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

Hello Leo, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 12:29 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated > and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. getting a current version of Firefox to work on 32-bit PowerPC is anything but t

Re: R: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

IGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch [ 189.994] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 189.995] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 190.088] (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 7:45 AM luigi burdo wrote: > Hi John Paul, >

Re: Bug#1081515: gtk4: FTBFS with weston 14: many tests fail with --setup=wayland: Failed to open display

Control: retitle -1 gtk4: FTBFS with weston 14: many tests fail with --setup=wayland: Failed to open display Control: severity -1 serious (Please remove -ports from cc in replies, this is no longer believed to be -ports specific) On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 at 11:48:21 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > gtk

Re: R: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

Hi Luigi, On Thu, 2024-09-12 at 09:05 +, luigi burdo wrote: > this is my really old guide about install linux on PowerMac G5 (quad) but the > append to linux kernel are working today too. > I have on My Quad A Quadro and a 6570 HD <-- for linux. Why not post the necessary commands to append t

Re: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

Hi Link, On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 19:44 -0300, Link Electronics wrote: > I would like to thank Adrian Glaubitz in advance for his many years of > continuing to support the PowerPC platform on Debian Linux. You're very welcome. I'm glad it's useful to you. > I have a PowerMac G5 Late 2005, been usin

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hi Cedar, On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 16:51 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > Thank you for your reply.  Here is the link to the image I used: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc That one doesn't work. Let me pick the proper image for you first as further discussions should be based on

Re: Need help to make a Radeon HD6970 to work on a G5

I forgot to say that I have installed firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-amd-graphics, and the last lines of dsmeg actually are: [drm:uvd_v1_0_ib_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: fence wait time out. [drm:radeon_ib_ring_tests [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: failed testing IB on ring 5 (-110). On Wed, Sep

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, Thank you for your reply.  Here is the link to the image I used: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc .  Following K's suggestion, I looked back through the mailing list.  I didn't find the solution there, but elsewhere, on Google, I found the solution to GRUB

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Cedar, On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 14:16 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > I just installed the latest stable Debian iso on my iBook G4, but the > grub bootloader install failed during the installation.  When I boot, > I get the grub prompt. Please provide the URL of the installation image that you u

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

There was talk a few years ago about an installation FAQ for Apple PowerPC systems, but in the end, the idea was vetoed. Look backward though this mailing list -- you will find someone has asked the exact same question recently. It comes up every few weeks / months. In the answer to that questi

Re: gtk4: FTBFS on mips64el with Mesa 24.2.x: GALLIUM_DRIVER=softpipe no longer works

Control: tags -1 + pending On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 at 18:51:11 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > src:gtk4 uses GALLIUM_DRIVER=softpipe on mips*, powerpc and sparc* to work > around #1010838. Mesa 24.2.x is no longer built with softpipe enabled 24.2.1-4 re-enables softpipe (#1080475) which

Re: Bug#1079124: schroot: regression in 1.6.13-4 when local configuration makes /dev/pts a bind mount

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 12:33:22 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > Please see attached. As with the other known regression from 1.6.13-4 > (#1078539), the proposed solution is a change to a conffile, so buildd > operators could try this manually if desired. The patch I previously attached here is also

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

On 2024-08-23 07:58, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: > On 2024-08-23 03:16, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> It should be disabled on m68k and sh by default as well. > > Sure, I can change that. What's the reasoning, so I can explain in my commit > message? Oh I don't think m68k even has ARCH_SUPPORTS

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

On 2024-08-23 03:16, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It should be disabled on m68k and sh by default as well. Sure, I can change that. What's the reasoning, so I can explain in my commit message? -Dave

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

On Thu, 2024-08-22 at 20:41 -0400, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: > From d6e5fe3a45f46f1aa01914648c443291d956de9e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Dave Vasilevsky > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:13:46 -0400 > Subject: [PATCH] powerpc: Default to CRASH_DUMP=n when Open Firmware boot is > likely > MIME-Version

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

On 2024-08-22 20:04, Baoquan He wrote: > If so, below patch possiblly can fix it. Can you help check if it's OK? That removes the possibility of enabling CRASH_DUMP on PPC_BOOK3S_32, even when booting via other mechanisms. Maybe it would be best to just make it not-default? Please take a look at

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

Hi Baoquan, On Thu, 2024-08-22 at 17:17 +0800, Baoquan He wrote: > > The change to enable CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP by default apparently broke the boot > > on 32-bit Power Macintosh systems which fail after GRUB with: > > > > "Error: You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF!" > > > > We may have to tu

Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 05/14] crash: clean up kdump related config items

Hi Baoquan, On Wed, 2024-01-24 at 13:12 +0800, Baoquan He wrote: > By splitting CRASH_RESERVE and VMCORE_INFO out from CRASH_CORE, cleaning > up the dependency of FA_DMUMP on CRASH_DUMP, and moving crash codes from > kexec_core.c to crash_core.c, now we can rearrange CRASH_DUMP to > depend on KEXE

Re: Re: Kernel 6.9 fails to boot with "can't boot dump kernel from OF"

Hi Dave, On Fri, 2024-08-16 at 11:17 -0400, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: > > Could you verify that this change actually fixes the problem? This would > > save me some work. > > Verified with PPC qemu. I fail to boot with "You can’t boot a kdump kernel > from OF" with > CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP on, and I boo

Re: Bug#983423: schroot: regression presumably in 1.6.13-4 after fixing #983423

Simon McVittie dixit: >I was not aware of any mips* buildds still on 4.9 (Debian 9 kernel). The >only mips family architecture listed on buildd.debian.org is mips64el, for I think 4.9 is some mipsel buildds. Shortly after the discussion, which I’m attaching as I don’t know where it’s otherwise ar

Re: Bug#983423: schroot: regression presumably in 1.6.13-4 after fixing #983423

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 01:30:55 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > The reason for the regression is probably that /dev/pts/ptmx on the host > has permissions 000, making it inaccessible (despite being functionally > equivalent to /dev/ptmx which is available to everyone). Yes, it seems to be this. I'v

Re: Bug#1079124: schroot: regression in 1.6.13-4 when local configuration makes /dev/pts a bind mount

Control: tags -1 + patch On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 12:10:33 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > I'm testing a patch now. Please see attached. As with the other known regression from 1.6.13-4 (#1078539), the proposed solution is a change to a conffile, so buildd operators could try this manually if desire

Re: "cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Read-only file system" on a Power Mac G5

Hello and big thanks to both! That fixed the issue. Best wishes, Ilko

Re: Bug#983423: schroot: regression presumably in 1.6.13-4 after fixing #983423

Simon McVittie dixit: >was rather recent at that time, but hopefully we no longer have any >machines that are running Debian 8 kernels... The varios MIPS buildds run 4.19 and some even 4.9 kernels (AFAIHH due to hardware/patch constraints), which has led to problems (e.g. I had to disable klibc b

Re: Bug#983423: schroot: regression presumably in 1.6.13-4 after fixing #983423

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 00:59:30 +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: > On 20 Aug 2024, at 00:23, Simon McVittie wrote: > > I was unable to reproduce this build failure ... > > There must presumably be something different about how sbuild-createchroot > > and schroot are configured or invoked on the affect

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