Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 19:25, Johannes Berg wrote:
During installation. How often does one install?
Well, it does take a while :) Though when I installed mine, the
So you have such a machine :)
Could you please test, if those noisy fans are made silent with d-i RC1 and
with the
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 15:09, Sven Luther wrote:
currently shiping powerpc hardware are :
IBM pseries : not really supported, patch sitting without comment
since months, early work lost because of svn commit conflicts.
raise the bug severity? which bug#, btw?
Outstanding
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 15:45, Alex Fernandez wrote:
One of the selling points of Free Software in general, and Debian in
particular, is that the people doing the coding are the people in
charge.
Right. The people doing the vast majority of work on the debian-installer,
which runs on
Le Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit :
Could you please test, if those noisy fans are made silent with d-i RC1
No need to test, they are not:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/11/msg00789.html
with the current daily-builds and tell us the results. (You
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 19:25, Johannes Berg wrote:
During installation. How often does one install?
Well, it does take a while :) Though when I installed mine, the
So you have such a machine :)
Could you please
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:18:54PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 15:45, Alex Fernandez wrote:
One of the selling points of Free Software in general, and Debian in
particular, is that the people doing the coding are the people in
charge.
Right. The people
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:17:07PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 15:09, Sven Luther wrote:
currently shiping powerpc hardware are :
IBM pseries : not really supported, patch sitting without comment
since months, early work lost because of svn commit
Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 12:20, Charles Plessy wrote:
No need to test, they are not:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/11/msg00789.html
Ok. I will add info about this in the errata then.
On the other hand, I recommend to test wether they also stay silent on
the installed
Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 15:30, Sven Luther wrote:
#394970: finish-install: [powerpc64] Add support for IBM serial
I didn't, because
[1, 2 3 - basically no time]
And then you complain, that other people don't find the time to reply to the
bugreport. Can't you imagine, that they
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:16:42PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 15:30, Sven Luther wrote:
#394970: finish-install: [powerpc64] Add support for IBM serial
I didn't, because
[1, 2 3 - basically no time]
And then you complain, that other people don't
* 2006-11-30 18:05, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thursday 30 November 2006 15:30, Sven Luther wrote:
#394970: finish-install: [powerpc64] Add support for IBM serial
I didn't, because
[1, 2 3 - basically no time]
And then you complain, that other people don't find the time to reply
Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 18:21, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* Holger, Frans and who others involved, could you please stop to reply
to Sven's non-technical e-mail messages? It surely do not help anybody.
Indeed, I did regret sending the previous mail in this thread to the list and
* 2006-11-30 19:31, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 30 November 2006 18:21, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* Holger, Frans and who others involved, could you please stop to reply
to Sven's non-technical e-mail messages? It surely do not help anybody.
Indeed, I did regret sending
Hi,
On Saturday 25 November 2006 23:08, Sven Luther wrote:
Thank you for this, why could you not at least leave me alone ?
Because you spread FUD about the debian-powerpc port and claim it's so broken
it needs to be removed from etch?!
joeyh accused me of delaying single-handledly the
And really, loud fans are an issue, but they don't make the installer
completly usuable (play some louder music during the 30mins of installations,
whatever) for the minority of powerpc users with such a hardware, while there
Clearly you belong to the majority who don't own such a machine.
Le Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 10:37:40AM +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit :
And really, loud fans are an issue, but they don't make the installer
completly usuable (play some louder music during the 30mins of installations,
whatever) for the minority of powerpc users with such a hardware
Hi Holger,
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 10:37:40AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday 25 November 2006 23:08, Sven Luther wrote:
Thank you for this, why could you not at least leave me alone ?
Because you spread FUD about the debian-powerpc port and claim it's so broken
it needs to be removed
My humble opinion as an occassional user of Debian-powerpc.
One of the selling points of Free Software in general, and Debian in
particular, is that the people doing the coding are the people in
charge. If this fails to happen then the decision process must be
refined.
I have not followed the
Hi,
On Sunday 26 November 2006 11:39, Johannes Berg wrote:
And really, loud fans are an issue, but they don't make the installer
completly usuable (play some louder music during the 30mins of
installations, whatever) for the minority of powerpc users with such a
hardware, while there
Hi,
During installation. How often does one install?
Well, it does take a while :) Though when I installed mine, the
installer didn't work at all yet because the kernel was too old so I
built my own installer... I also occasionally hack the low level kernel
code so I guess I simply don't count
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:25:27PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
Hi,
During installation. How often does one install?
Holger, you should know i have installed that box maybe 4-5 times a day, and
stayed in the installer a long time in order to investigate various bugs,
including the infamous
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 23:11 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Indeed, but i guess that with etch now soon supporting 2.6.18 kernels, all
apple powerpc hardware will be supported. At least this is one benefit of
apple going over to intel :)
Heh :)
Johannes, actually this is a different issue,
Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 23:11 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Indeed, but i guess that with etch now soon supporting 2.6.18 kernels, all
apple powerpc hardware will be supported. At least this is one benefit of
apple going over to intel :)
Heh :)
Johannes,
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:39:26PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 23:11 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Indeed, but i guess that with etch now soon supporting 2.6.18 kernels, all
apple powerpc hardware will be supported. At least
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, it's right and wrong. Those modules don't need to be available
while booting but be loaded just after init is being run (I might be
wrong here) but if I got right there's a problem on 2.6.18 kernel that
doesn't instruct udev to load them and
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:10:19PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, it's right and wrong. Those modules don't need to be available
while booting but be loaded just after init is being run (I might be
wrong here) but if I got right there's a problem
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes. We could but it would add another package on archive while the
fix is a simple change on initramfs itself. I don't think it's a good
trade of.
Well, the initramfs-tools is a hook based technology. We could add that hook
to a package dependeded
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:33:19PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes. We could but it would add another package on archive while the
fix is a simple change on initramfs itself. I don't think it's a good
trade of.
Well, the initramfs-tools is a
Hi,
summary for powerpc-users: _if_ you have serious problems with debian-powerpc
working on your machine(s), please report them to the bug tracking system, so
we can fix them. If you don't know how (or need a bit help), I'm glad to help
on this. http://bugs.debian.org is a good starting point
Hi,
summary for powerpc-users: _if_ you have serious problems with debian-powerpc
working on your machine(s), please report them to the bug tracking system, so
we can fix them. If you don't know how (or need a bit help), I'm glad to help
on this. http://bugs.debian.org is a good starting point :)
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 09:07:02PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
Holger.
Thank you for this, why could you not at least leave me alone ?
And please tell me again, what have you done for powerpc lately ? Or for
example during the month of marsch when i resigned and wished frans good
luck
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:08 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
would introduce the opportunity of supporting the Airport extreme card
on machines on which the users kept an OSX system, or by asking them to
insert the installation CD.
Mmm, we can probably support that too, what is the problem ?
I
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:36:38AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:08 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
would introduce the opportunity of supporting the Airport extreme card
on machines on which the users kept an OSX system, or by asking them to
insert the installation
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 10:06 +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Ok, i see, i think the request is for automatically finding the OSX firmware,
and using that.
Yeah.
I would gladly add an alternative .udeb which did just that, if someone with
an OSX installation and the hardware in question did provide
Hi, ...
As some of you may have noticed, there is an ugly dispute going on between
some few d-i team members (Frans Pop and Joey Hess mostly, but Geert and
Holger also seem to support them), and which result in a over 6 month old
dispute who is not even near to being resolved, despite numerous
Hi to all,
I am only a casual user of Debian on the PPC and hardly in a position to
judge, to opinionate or to choose. It is easy to choose for the first
one that speaks, but as my mother used to say: when two are fighting,
two are to blame. Maybe my mother had the kind of simple wisdom that
Sorry, but I disagree completely !!!
I am an occasional user of Debian PPC too, just 3 machines right now .
But I listen to this list for more than 4 years, and the ONLY one who
contribute with usable patches do d-i IS exactly Mr. Sven Luther !!!
Without him there is no such thing called
Hi all,
I am just a two machines user (I use it every day, thought) of Debian PPC and
theoreticaly I tend to agree with Jan Stedehouderwrote but in this particular
real life case I believe Fabio Rabelo is absolutely wrigth: Without Sven Luther
there is no Debian PPC.
cheers
Gunther
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 08:34:54PM +0100, Jan Stedehouder wrote:
Hi to all,
I am only a casual user of Debian on the PPC and hardly in a position to
judge, to opinionate or to choose. It is easy to choose for the first
one that speaks, but as my mother used to say: when two are fighting,
I wish I had more to contribute with, I've used d.i. like 3 times a year(s)
ago. Never cared much 'bout the installers nor do I know what the developers
stands for or do. But this seems to get a bit out hand...
* grow up will ya'll *
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 18:00, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 21:49, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 08:34:54PM +0100, Jan Stedehouder wrote:
Hi to all,
I am only a casual user of Debian on the PPC and hardly in a position to
judge, to opinionate or to choose. It is easy to choose for the first
one that
Sven Luther schreef:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 08:34:54PM +0100, Jan Stedehouder wrote:
Hi to all,
I am only a casual user of Debian on the PPC and hardly in a position to
judge, to opinionate or to choose. It is easy to choose for the first
one that speaks, but as my mother used to say:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 10:32:36PM +0100, Jan Stedehouder wrote:
If such is the case, there is a substantiated blame and matters can be
decided. One way to achieve this is by appointing a group of independent
arbiters that look into the matter, where both parties can present their
case and
Torrance schreef:
On 23/11/2006, at 10:32 AM, Jan Stedehouder wrote:
One way to achieve this is by appointing a group of independent
arbiters that look into the matter, where both parties can present
their case and which can make a binding judgment. The judgment can be
-correct if I am
Le Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 06:00:48PM +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394971
#394971: rootskel: [powerpc64] load the fan control modules.
Which was submited 29 days ago, with a patch and not commited.
Bonjour Sven,
it is claimed that the
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 09:57:43AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 06:00:48PM +0100, Sven Luther a écrit :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394971
#394971: rootskel: [powerpc64] load the fan control modules.
Which was submited 29 days ago, with
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