Re: macintosh keyboard patches (was: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results))

2003-09-15 Thread Frank Murphy
I was concerned about the keys that differ on an Apple keyboard, compared to a PC keyboard. Like control, option, apple, vs. control, windows, alt, altgt and the other 2 keys. Maybe these can be redefined after including the main rules/xfree86 file. Yes, they can. The number of keys that are

Re: macintosh keyboard patches (was: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results))

2003-09-14 Thread Olaf Hering
On Tue, Aug 26, Frank Murphy wrote: On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote: The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS does. So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of questions. The first is about the changes you made to

Re: macintosh keyboard patches (was: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results))

2003-08-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote: The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS does. So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of questions. The first is about the changes you made to the macintosh keycodes file. I like the new

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi Frank On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:27, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:57, Andreas Wüst wrote: But hey, thank you very much!! I've now lost a bit track, testing all the new laptop keymap versions and its patches. But from my point of view, this seems to lead to the right solution. I've attached a patch here that should apply to the

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote: --- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100 +++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200 @@ -56,6 +56,7 @@ pc105nodeadkeys = en_US(pc105%_v)+%l%(v) microsoft

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Olaf Hering
On Mon, Aug 25, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote: --- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100 +++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200 @@ -56,6 +56,7 @@ pc105nodeadkeys =

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 2:55, Michel Dnzer wrote: (How) does this work with layouts other than us? And how do you get laptop with nodeadkeys? It doesn't. Sorry about that. I went to quickly and was seduced by the idea of the variant. :) I've attached a patch that does it more like you had,

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 22:44, Frank Murphy wrote: My point for having an apple file is that I'd like the macintosh symbol maps to be based on the default symbols. That way, when changes like the ISO_Shift_Level/Mode_switch and alt_is_meta happen, the Apple keyboards stay current. And why

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works OK as a default. I'll probably add another variation

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:23, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread David M. Cooke
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas? I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while: 108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Emmanuel Eckard
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas? I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas? I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:17, Emmanuel Eckard wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 13:31, Frank Murphy wrote: The problem is that Mode_switch and Multi_key can't be assigned to the same keycode or keysym with only a level-shift to separate them. The third- and fourth-levels are useless because Mode_switch must be pressed before they can be used

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 1:32, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wst wrote: fn+alt+6: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181, root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e,

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas? I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while: 108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20 (Multi_key) Or does anybody _really_ need that stupid enter key? :) --

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-18 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi Frank On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols worked. For example, I could get [

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wst wrote: fn+alt+6: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181, root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0