Re: Micros*ft deal

2007-07-01 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El jue, 21-06-2007 a las 21:40 +0200, Robert Millan escribió: I believe our silence says it all, no? If they want to donate us money for no 'carte blanche' back good, Their donations are welcome, their deals aren't. In fact, we could even lose our permission to use GPLv3 software if we

Re: Micros*ft deal

2007-07-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 11:03:03AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El jue, 21-06-2007 a las 21:40 +0200, Robert Millan escribió: I believe our silence says it all, no? If they want to donate us money for no 'carte blanche' back good, Their donations are

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7 [was Re: Social committee proposal]

2007-07-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 01:27:00PM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: Just nitpicking, but is our Condorcet method for running election suitable for voting when an (ordered) set of result is expected? Isn't it targeted at finding only one winner (if it exists)? Not a big It's targeted to

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + li If the election requires multiple winners, the list of winners is +created by sorting the list of options by ascending strength. Why couldn't we just use some STV method for such elections? STV is a tried and proved method, no need for us

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 01:28:00PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Why couldn't we just use some STV method for such elections? STV is a tried and proved method, no need for us to start inventing new methods. Many of the tried and proved STV methods are faulty. (Perhaps not as faulty as iterating

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:28:00 +0300, Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + li If the election requires multiple winners, the list of winners is + created by sorting the list of options by ascending strength. Why couldn't we just use some STV

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:17:27 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: In other words, we share a common technical culture. This is not the case for social culture of the community; and this distinction would tend to make a difference,

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcet voting

2007-07-01 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2007, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: You make another point, which is interesting, but which actually when carried to its logical conclusion ends up being in support of Range Voting over Condorcet. If you continue with the logic asking

Re: Social Contract ten years on July 5 -- celebration?

2007-07-01 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2007-06-26 at 20:54 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: The Debian Social Contract 1.0 was ratified on July 5, 1997. That's ten years ago, about ten days from now. Anybody else interested in celebrating this a bit? What would be an appropriate way? After some discussion on two Finnish Debian

Re: message from Sven Luther

2007-07-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 30 juin 2007 à 10:58 +0100, MJ Ray a écrit : Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 15:51 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : Sven also told me that if nobody will forward it, he will make it by the slashdot way. We don't negociate with terrorists.

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, MJ Ray wrote: Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So we have the choice to do either nothing against social problems in Debian or just give a soc-ctte a chance to try [...] That's a false dilemma. For example, I suggested letting email lists (suffering most

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-07-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: So we have the choice to do either nothing against social problems in Debian or just give a soc-ctte a chance to try - your comments about the cultural diversion might be a helpful guideline here - but in my opinion no argument against a soc-ctte.