On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> A meta tool "package me this" would be interesting.
There is debdry but it got orphaned.
> many of those tools are too complex for many upstreams because they
> don't want to package each dependency one by one. For example,
> dh-make-golan
❦ 21 mai 2016 14:07 +0800, Paul Wise :
>> Totally agree. Our standards are far too high for many upstreams.
>
> I don't understand the disconnect here. Are upstreams not interested
> in software quality to the extent we are?
Many of them don't consider packaging quality as important. As long as
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Totally agree. Our standards are far too high for many upstreams.
I don't understand the disconnect here. Are upstreams not interested
in software quality to the extent we are?
> I am always flabestered by the popularity of fpm to build De
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> testing is not suitable for most people because:
>
> 1. no security support
This can be mitigated by adding unstable to your sources.list and
using a wrapper around debsecan to automatically pull in packages from
unstable when
there are se
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> More and more frequently I'm encountering systems where third-party
> repositories have been added into /etc/apt/sources.list or
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d, usually put there by some .deb package that a
> user installed from some third party
Hi Daniel,
Le Thu, May 19, 2016 at 05:18:28PM +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
>
> From a technical perspective, can we do more to prevent users being
> surprised by packages putting new entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
maybe you are looking for an Apt option that would only install a package i
On 20/05/16 20:55, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> Hi Emilio,
>
> On 20/05/2016 20:11, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
>> Hi Mehdi,
>>
>> First of all, congrats for the election!
>>
>
> Thanks!
>
>> On 17/05/16 18:57, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
>>> Assets
>>> ==
>>> - Approved expenses for MiniDebConf at Vienn
Le 19/05/2016 19:20, Hakan Peker a écrit :
> On 05/19/2016 06:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> From a technical perspective, can we do more to prevent users being
>> surprised by packages putting new entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
>>
> Please no. The system is working as intended. I don't think
Hi Emilio,
On 20/05/2016 20:11, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> Hi Mehdi,
>
> First of all, congrats for the election!
>
Thanks!
> On 17/05/16 18:57, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
>> Assets
>> ==
>> - Approved expenses for MiniDebConf at Vienna, Austria. (Up to 3000€)
>
> Out of curiosity, what was
❦ 20 mai 2016 08:59 -0300, Antonio Terceiro :
>> testing is not suitable for most people because:
>>
>> 1. no security support
>
> That's not true. Proper security fixes will get into testing after 2
> days in unstable if everything goes right as long as the maintainer, or
> something that car
Hi Mehdi,
First of all, congrats for the election!
On 17/05/16 18:57, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> Assets
> ==
> - Approved expenses for MiniDebConf at Vienna, Austria. (Up to 3000€)
Out of curiosity, what was this used/intended for? I couldn't find a mail on
debian-sprints explaining the request,
Hi all,
Following in french for Sergio who is asking about Debian in french.
Salut Sergio,
il y a une liste debian-user-fre...@lists.debian.org à laquelle tu peux
t'abonner
pour parler de debian en français.
Petite note : debian et ubuntu ne sont pas la même chose bien qu'ubuntu soit
basée sur
Bonjour,
- Sartorelli Sergio a écrit :
> Bonjour. J'aimerai savoir si il existe Debian complètement en français ?
Le français est l'une des langues la mieux supportées chez Debian avec
l'anglais, avec un taux de traduction proche de 100 % (voire de 100 %). Donc
oui, Debian peut être cons
Bonjour. J'aimerai savoir si il existe Debian complètement en français ?
Exemple: UBUNTU en français contient 85 % d'Anglais, cela est très
désagréable. Lorsque on télécharge une application UBUNTU ne l'accepte
pas et qui plus est donne ces commantaires en Anglais et vous ? Merci
de me répondr
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:40:56PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote:
> This behavious may be useful for a development platform, but for an end
> user this is just inacceptable.
This is why we keep saying that testing is a tool for the release team
and not a suite ment for users.
Despite that it is su
Antonio Terceiro writes:
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:26:28AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>> 2. packages can disappear at any time
>
> If they are broken. In my book that a feature and not a bug.
>From the user's perspective, they are also often *not* broken. Just take
the "pandas" package as a
]] Bas Wijnen
> Debian stable is for users who want a rock solid system. It is out of date by
> the nature of how it is built. Users who want to get the newest versions of
> their software should not be running stable; testing is probably better for
> them.
This often isn't what users want, th
On 2016-05-20 at 07:59, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:26:28AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>
>> ❦ 19 mai 2016 16:39 GMT, Bas Wijnen :
>>
>>> Debian stable is for users who want a rock solid system. It is
>>> out of date by the nature of how it is built. Users who want t
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:26:28AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 19 mai 2016 16:39 GMT, Bas Wijnen :
>
> > Debian stable is for users who want a rock solid system. It is out of date
> > by
> > the nature of how it is built. Users who want to get the newest versions of
> > their software sh
Le Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:34:59AM +0200, Vincent Bernat a écrit :
>
> I am always flabestered by the popularity of fpm to build Debian
> packages (and by the increasing popularity of pleaserun by the same
> author on the same concepts). It provides a way to easily build a Debian
> package from a
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