On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 20:47 +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > t's just another tool that might or might not be non-free like people
> > using Photoshop, Google Chrome, Gmail, Windows, ... to make
> > contributions. Or a spamfilter to filter out some.
>
> That's entirely not the point.
>
> It
Le Thu, May 02, 2024 at 02:01:20PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit :
>
> I would like Debian to discuss and decide on the usage of AI-generated content
> within the project.
Hi Tiago,
as a Debian developer I refrain from using commercial AI to genereate
code used in my packaging work or
Hi Russ,
On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 11:59:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Tiago Bortoletto Vaz writes:
>
> > I personally agree with the author's rationale on the aspects pointed
> > out (copyright, quality and ethical ones). But at this point I guess we
> > might have more questions than
At 2024-05-02T16:31:39-0600, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's
>> copyrighted works.
>
>> That said, we already have the necessary policies in place:
>
> Russ pointed out this is a fairly complicated claim.
>
> It is absolutely true that
> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes:
Dominik> Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's
copyrighted works.
Dominik> That said, we already have the necessary policies in place:
Russ pointed out this is a fairly complicated claim.
It is absolutely true that
On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 08:47:31PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >It's just another tool that might or might not be non-free like people
> >using Photoshop, Google Chrome, Gmail, Windows, ... to make
> >contributions. Or a spamfilter to filter out some.
>
> That's entirely not the
On 5/2/24 14:01, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
You might already know that recently Gentoo made a strong move in this context
and drafted their AI policy:
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy
- https://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg99042.html
People
> "Ansgar" == Ansgar writes:
Ansgar> Hi,
Ansgar> On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 14:01 -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
>> I would like Debian to discuss and decide on the usage of AI-
>> generated content within the project.
Ansgar> It's just another tool that might or might
On 5/2/24 14:47, Dominik George wrote:
That's entirely not the point.
It is not about **the tool** being non-free, but the result of its use being
non-free.
Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's copyrighted works.
Yes. That includes the case where LLMs generates
Tiago Bortoletto Vaz writes:
> I personally agree with the author's rationale on the aspects pointed
> out (copyright, quality and ethical ones). But at this point I guess we
> might have more questions than answers, that's why I think it'd be
> helpful to have some input before suggesting any
Hi,
>It's just another tool that might or might not be non-free like people
>using Photoshop, Google Chrome, Gmail, Windows, ... to make
>contributions. Or a spamfilter to filter out some.
That's entirely not the point.
It is not about **the tool** being non-free, but the result of its use
Hi,
On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 14:01 -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> I would like Debian to discuss and decide on the usage of AI-
> generated content within the project.
It's just another tool that might or might not be non-free like people
using Photoshop, Google Chrome, Gmail, Windows, ... to
Hi,
I would like Debian to discuss and decide on the usage of AI-generated content
within the project. I fear that we are already facing negative consequences in
some areas of Debian as a result of its use. If I happen to be wrong, I'm still
afraid that it will happen in a very short time.
You
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