t couldn't be built for various reasons.
This doesn't tell you whether previous versions of the same packages
worked, though; some of those are going to be failures across multiple
architectures rather than just on riscv64, and you have to click through
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rewriting addresses to nnn@bugs would ultimately be less controversial -
it would be the most convenient default, as the address that's most
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that that would end up being flaky and confusing in practice. I think
people want the behaviour of the BTS to be easily predictable without
having to get an advanced degree in MTA debugging first.
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anything under Debian's reproducible builds banner (it
is after all slightly outside the usual area of building reproducible
.debs), but maybe I missed something.
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uld be
> better. It should be public.
This does nothing to protect against somebody who's willing to create an
arbitrarily large number of throwaway email addresses.
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fault. But just seeing that is
useless if you then apply an interpretation of equality that tends to
reinforce the status quo by penalising people who display their
frustration with it.
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n that does not make me sad). The constitution makes it quite
clear that nobody's obliged to do any particular task for the project,
and I don't need to voluntarily spend time with people who make the
lives of my trans friends worse.
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speakers on each side get over calling each
other uneducated for saying it "wrongly" (which is a fascinating
sociolinguistic exercise in itself), you can come up with several
plausible reasons why this makes sense in each dialect context, but I've
never seen one that survives attempts at being extended into a
generalisable prescriptive rule.
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s membership relative to other projects and to
the population as a whole suggest that we have problems that need to be
addressed? It can be very easy to stick with ingrained assumptions
about these kinds of things, but they're worth thinking about.
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've left a few
preliminary comments on individual commits; I'll do a more complete
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merge
request on salsa.
I haven't yet heard back, so I assume it's taking Philipp a while to
sort out the rebase ...
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et?
Either nobody's tried to discuss it with me yet or I missed the email.
Feel free to (preferably in the form of a patch I can review :-) ).
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audable
practice. Just let's not kid ourselves that every situation can be
resolved without exclusionary measures.
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bout UEFI/BIOS/Firmware stuff - there is
> just no usable "free" hardware on the market.
In context I think it's reasonably clear that this is talking about the
software running on the servers that operate the code repositories in
question.
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to work out local export control
details for their products as a whole.
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> > adds to it.
[...]
> 2) Dishonest (using an unrelated GR to turn over the default init
> decision made through a backdoor you put in)
Huh? Ian explicitly says, as does the text itself, that this proposed
GR *adopts* the TC decision on the default init system. It doesn'
t want to get GRUB signed by Microsoft anyway; their
signing process is far too cumbersome for anything but a loader that we
try not to change very often. Their guidelines permit chaining to GPLv3
code via shim, so this part of it should not be a problem.
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and nobody appears to have linked to it yet in this thread:
https://plus.google.com/116812394236590806058/posts/5jdibY5iR9b
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"Copyright: PD" and omit the License field, but of
course the License field is currently always required.
Would it be possible to make the License field optional in the case of
"Copyright: PD", or is there some other better change that should be
made to acco
nu system rather than switching to a shell; once you've
selected a filesystem to operate on, it has a menu item to reinstall
grub.
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[1] and possibly before, although for some time after that I believe
that Richard recommended Debian anyway as being the closest thing
available to what he wanted.
[1] This is merely a convenient method of dating because I can't
remember the year, no
ly
mean that you have to drop everything and fix it right away, but do
think twice before ignoring it.
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that to him to announce in time!
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A draft release announcement is here:
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tive,
please end it". That would allow discretionary salvaging of totally
doomed conversations without the need to impose arbitrary and
inappropriate limits. Compare how the linux-kernel mailing list
moderators occasionally step in to kill off-topic threads.
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 10:39:35PM +, Joel Baker wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 01:46:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:32:56PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > In this case, wouldn't making the appropriate admin(s) the owner of
> >
their
> > load.
>
> In this case, wouldn't making the appropriate admin(s) the owner of
> the pseudo package make it so that they wouldn't have to check the bts
> pseudo package specifically?
Sure, but it still absolutely requires their consent.
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package? It might be, because you
> naturally directed your email to debian-project.
>
> I'll cc the BTS owner as well as you. I think their opinion on this
> counts.
You need to get somebody to agree to own the pseudo-package. Following
that, ftpmaster is the body responsible for creating pseudo-packages.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 03:53:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 02:46:13AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > We do collectively understand that there are Free, full-featured graphical
> > browsers *other* than Netscape, right?
>
> You're seriou
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 04:44:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 03:53:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 02:46:13AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > We do collectively understand that there are Free, full-featured graphi
s.
> We do collectively understand that there are Free, full-featured graphical
> browsers *other* than Netscape, right?
You're seriously suggesting that Debian wouldn't be laughed out of the
park for releasing without Mozilla at the moment? If you aren't
suggesting this, then tha
it needs to work (even disregarding this issue).
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ed in, and which releases it's fixed in.
This will be part of the above.
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res.
File ftp.debian.org bugs to have the binaries for the lagging
architectures removed. At least one ftpmaster has told me he's quite
willing to do this for non-autobuilt sections, and has done so several
times in the past.
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und to it). It's relatively slow work since I need to check the
copyright files first, though.
I assume this is doing reasonably well since powerpc is second best in
the list above :-)
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in another substantially-sized project is
almost certainly more than I have available. The effort-to-benefit ratio
of maintaining my non-free packages in Debian is pretty good.
Be careful not to confuse "we are willing to maintain non-free in
Debian" with "we would take part in non-free.org". They're definitely
not the same thing.
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archiving sites.
You do know that the person you're replying to is a listmaster, right?
(Just checking, as it doesn't seem that way from your tone.)
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bits of GNOME.
It's not really all that easy to decouple this from a release of the
rest of Debian and still have sane testing and release management, IMO;
and then you're right back into having to release the whole thing at
once.
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was under this impression.
Wow, really? -vote is too much noise for me, but I definitely wouldn't
see any reason to move my couple of non-free packages away from
debian.org if the vote goes that way.
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ainer would be quite entitled to stop endorsing Debian as
a result; likewise, Debian is quite entitled to stop pointing
irc.debian.org at Freenode.
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va Policy by Jan Schulz
>
> That's got time till the next debian release is out, I guess.
Not an awful lot of it (assuming the 15th March date for the base freeze
holds or doesn't slip too far).
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ish to have a metaphysical argument with Anthony, take it to the
mailing lists or private mail. The bug tracking system is not here for
this purpose.
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bian's organizational structure has an effect on this, I
believe that your "release schedules are unimportant to them" comment
above is a mischaracterization.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 10:14:05AM -0300, Caio Souza Mendes wrote:
> But does not exist no forecast for Debian 3.1 to be
> available?
Please read debian-devel-announce in order to keep track of release
plans.
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ian
developers really ought to be committed to improving the distribution as
a whole, I think.
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ng away from XFree86
was a good excuse to throw away the wealth of experience found in the
people who've been working on XFree86 in Debian for years.
Also, let's not be too hasty in assuming that XFree86's licence change
is an unresolvable problem.
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ce at which I hope to try to thrash out this idea or something
similar.
> This will probably require some reorganisation & legal issues of core
> distro & the extension, but it will be worth it!
I shouldn't think there would be any legal issues, but it would
certainly require re
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 08:00:26PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 04:22:26PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
[regarding a suggestion that Debian could provide e-mail addresses for
developers aside from the "Debian hat" ones in debian.org]
> > You can a
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 07:07:00PM -0800, Youssef JAD wrote:
> Please let me know how to become a developer and contribute in the
> development of Debian GNU/Linux.
See:
http://www.debian.org/devel/
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it is new mother board and hard drive..
Sounds like an ideal opportunity to try out Debian, then! :-)
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really do
without the conspiracy theories.
[Due to the aforementioned anniversary, I'm not entirely sober and it's
late. Please excuse total lack of diplomacy.]
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'd like to have the opportunity to dump any shares of stock I might
> hold in airline companies.
There's prior art:
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1437.txt
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f natural numbers was definitely not
defined to include zero. Peano's first axiom is "1 is a natural number",
not "0 is a natural number".
I think you're confusing "different interpretation of disagreed
terminology" with "wrong". The membership of zero in the set of natural
numbers is a matter of disagreed terminology.
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's progress into testing for so long,
> this has been problematic.
If the code is otherwise ready, you could drop it into experimental.
This is probably the best approach if you think it could be ready for
sarge.
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nal poll on various popular web
sites about the relative popularity of different GNU/Linux
distributions.
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ng around in it. I understand if it
> turned out to be buggy but couldn't you have gone back to 1.2 or at
> least 1.1?
Um, I think you're mistaken here. Packages don't get downgraded in
testing. I don't believe testing has ever had mozilla 1.3.
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e, for example. (Pretend for a moment that I don't have a
debian.org address and therefore couldn't be bulk-whitelisted.) I
subscribe from a different address because there's no point sending all
my list mail through another occasionally overloaded system.
Spam has been increasingly for
.
Please send suggestions about our web site to
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ur main distribution, since
that consists entirely of free software; although I haven't looked at
it, it's unlikely that we'd even get permission to distribute a
proprietary operating system in non-free. Perhaps HP themselves would be
the best people to ask about this?
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e better
ways to meet with us.
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stable to be the default at the time when such
things had to be frozen in order to prepare the woody release. That's
changed since, of course.
The next release will have 2.4 as the default, I'd imagine.
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ld do.
All that said, however, it's likely to be easier for you to use the
standard upstream package rather than the one customized for Debian.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnucap/ has download links. It doesn't seem
to need anything unusual to build - just standard C and C++ developm
"Replaces: gftp-common (<<
2.0.14-1)" in its control file, since it has moved a file from earlier
versions of gftp-common.
BTW debian-project is intended for non-technical discussions; you should
probably use debian-user instead for this kind of thing.
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"Priority: fun, tricky, taxing, mayhem". :)
In fact, the PuTTY bug system uses exactly this for its Difficulty:
field. It's probably the wrong way round for triage, though. Maybe
something like "Urgency: critical, high, medium, low, round-tuit".
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tylistic changes separate from substantive changes,
and when the substance is not agreed upon don't get too worried about
the style.
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stem, not with
the common cause of winning arguments in a debating society. Surely it
can't be controversial that we should be trying to arrange things such
that we produce the best software we can while burning out as few people
as possible?
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t
comes to selecting bugs to be examined. Also, I'd say that there ought
to be more than one way to score your point beyond just closing the bug.
They probably ought to be verified by a human referee to make sure the
result hasn't been harmful.
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;ve only
seen very occasional activity from Guy recently.
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d megabytes' worth of
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uch as
synchronization on all architectures or missing dependencies then they
will hold it up even after this time.
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of
thing: if the maintainer knows of other efforts, he/she'll tell you.
The sad truth is that many people (myself included, from time to time)
volunteer for things and then run out of time to actually do them. It's
much easier to work with real contributions rather than offers of help,
welcome as they are.
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ut if
you built it on stable it might well compile fine and produce a package
that depends on libc6 (>= 2.1.3-18). That isn't to say that the first
package would work with the old libc6 if you just installed it directly.
(Follow-ups set away from -project - this is a technical discussion.)
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if it's going to take the namespace
www.debian-gnu.com (as it will), it had better be good ...
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ecause debian-testing is so low traffic
> that it does not need to be 'split'. And I think it's a bit more obvious for
> the actual users themselves.
I wouldn't call it any of those, as I think it should apply to unstable
as well. How about -user-unreleased or similar?
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table release, you can
visit this web site:
http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html
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tested before release
> has relatively few bugs
> those bugs that do exist are well publicized
Those who prefer more up-to-date although less well-tested packages can
download the development distribution.
I'd say that's overall a fair summary. Thanks.
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non-technical project-related questions.)
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7;s a good idea, though; you don't need official
approval or anything like that.
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good
way of pinging all those packages and making sure their maintainers are
awake.
[1] I.e. agreeing that release-critical bugs should be filed against
packages listing an older policy version.
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load was available. Admittedly it was my own fault when I
thought I'd replied to Edward Betts later and actually don't seem to
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s welcome to ask the delegate to the
board to put forward an opinion on their behalf, and through what
channels should this go?
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this on debian-devel, I would have
told him this.
>I think you deserve that we reserve the phrase "to do a Goswin" for
>undertakings like this one.
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free
software. I don't have time to go around looking in random non-free
archives all over the world to see what could do with work.
The existence of non-free in Debian encourages people to work on free
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