Re: Problem With Debian Root Desktop

2023-09-22 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Saurav Sarkar wrote: > I was using purchased Debian 8.1.0 [snip] > So now i bought Debian 12.1.0 [snip] > My money gone to HELL. Hello, since you mentioned paying for Debian, let me point out that Debian has always been free of charge. You can download it from here:

Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-24 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > cloud technologies posed a challenge to the GPLv2 because under that license everyone has the right to change the code but do not share it as long as s/he uses it internally which is exactly how the SaaS works. To fulfil this lack of freedom, the GPLv3 was proposed.

Re: The European chat control law could block the functioning of open source operating systems

2023-02-06 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > Mullvad, a well-known VPN service provider, focuses attention on one of the most unfortunate consequences of the proposed law that aims to force messaging apps to scan users' personal messages: open source software repositories and archives could become illegal. > >

Re: SUMMARY [Was Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?]

2022-11-24 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > A serious suggestion: it is not necessary for Debian to package fortune files at all. I absolutely disagree with that. The fortune package is completely nonfunctional without any fortune files. True, I could download fortune files from anywhere on the internet, and

Re: Evolving away from source package realms

2022-10-24 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Didier Raboud wrote: > What most respondents have gotten across as the bulk of my proposal seems to be: "we could limit upload rights to certain packages" > > ... where what I was trying to get across was: "we could team-maintain the core of Debian (and by extension, other subsets)" Frankly,

Re: Evolving away from source package realms

2022-10-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Didier Raboud wrote: > The last aspect would also be to completely remove the source-package-level realms; within a subset, there would be no package-specific maintainers or vetoes; disputes would move "out" from source-package-level to subset-level. Uhm. This makes me wonder what the real goal

Re: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?

2022-09-15 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > I have read much of the documentation online about how Debian understands itself, but I have never heard the term "do-ocracy" before. As I understand, it is an informal term, as such I don't expect to find it in formal documents. I read it as meaning "those who do the

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-03-24 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
and leave it as that. Gerardo Il giorno mer 23 mar 2022 alle ore 14:46 Wouter Verhelst ha scritto: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:35:18AM +0100, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > > I actually believe it would be quite problematic if any single DD were > > allowed to take actions

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-03-23 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Can we delete him from planet? Why does this need to be brought to -project? There is a team responsible for managing planet.d.o. If you have issues with Norbert's posts, write to pla...@debian.org . Jonathan Carter wrote: > Any DD can do that... oh wait that includes

Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-23 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
f like that. > But that's not really up to Debian. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:12 PM Gerardo Ballabio > wrote: >> >> Sam Hartman wrote: >> > I agree that Debian has committed to being open and inc

Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-21 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sam Hartman wrote: > I agree that Debian has committed to being open and inclusive. However, for > me that means something different than you say in your second sentence. To > me that means we've committed to being open to as large a cross section of > people--as diverse a cross section of

Re: Questions around Justice and Our Current CoC procedures

2022-02-21 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sam Hartman wrote: > I think phrasing this in terms of justice and rights for keeping governments accountable is likely to get a knee-jerk reaction from a number of people who do not want to think of things that. > It's fairly clear to a number of us that maintaining standards of a private

Re: Questions around Justice and Our Current CoC procedures

2022-02-21 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Russ Allbery wrote: > We need a careful and slow process for kicking someone out of the project because that's a big deal. Having a careful and slow process for issuing a warning is faintly absurd, I see your point and to some extent I agree -- but if repeated warnings then become grounds for

Re: Bug#273323: doc-debian: please ship typesettable version of social contract and dfsg documents

2021-09-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Diederik de Haas wrote: > But then the question becomes: what is the authoritative version? Was the Social Contract approved by a General Resolution? If so, then the authoritative version is the text that appeared in the GR ballot. Gerardo

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-07 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Johannes Schauer wrote: > So in my opinion (and please correct my assumptions if they are wrong), an > acceptable key signing policy would also be one, where a prospective DM has > shown over several months to produce work that is always signed with the same > key and maybe even communicated

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-18 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Dato Simó wrote: >> If it turns out that […] what I think […] is unacceptable >> rather than the way I express it, I will not post any more. > > Well, that’s the crux of the problem, isn’t it? Yes, exactly. And I read the rest of your message as saying "what you think is indeed unacceptable".

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-16 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Enrico Zini wrote: > If one focuses on Tina instead of looking at Gerardo's history of behaviour > on Debian list Enrico, I now fully understand how my message of last Thursday was not acceptable, and I regret sending it. And I didn't really want to follow up on that any more. But since you

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-12 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
(I see that because of my mistake, this thread continued on both -project and -vote. If you think it's better to restrict it to either list, please say so.) Hello Sam and others, I did not want to derail the discussion. As I wrote, I made those examples because I believed that they would help

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-12 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sorry, I just realized I sent this to the wrong list. It was for -vote actually. Gerardo Il giorno gio 12 dic 2019 alle ore 11:22 Gerardo Ballabio ha scritto: > > Sam, thank you very much for raising this issue and for recognizing > that there's more than one angle to it. > >

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-12 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sam, thank you very much for raising this issue and for recognizing that there's more than one angle to it. I tend to agree with Scott. It is well known, at least since George Orwell wrote his books, that controlling how people speak means controlling how they think. So I believe that this issue

Re: Community Team - where we want to go

2019-10-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
I wrote: > That isn't really different from the Community Team claiming ownership of > interpreting the CoC simply because they were the first who started working > on that. Thinking again about it, maybe they should have filed an ITP bug?!? Gerardo

Re: Community Team - where we want to go

2019-10-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Enrico Zini wrote: >> * Remove blogs from community forums like Planet Debian > >This I think is something the team could actually do, just as any Debian >Developer could do it, having commit access to the planet config. While technically they have the ability to do that, they are not allowed

Re: Community Team - where we want to go

2019-10-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Steve McIntyre wrote: > Within the team, we've brainstormed about this and come up with the following > to describe our role and responsibilities. We'd like to discuss it now with > the rest of the project. Feedback welcome please! Hi Steve, that looks good (I especially like the "Examples of

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sam Hartman wrote: > I strongly believe that Debian should be about free software. Every time we mix in some other issue, we reduce our contributor base and dilute our mission. +1 Just as a side note, not wanting to reopen that discussion -- I guess this would also apply to the issue that I

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-09-13 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Bas Wijnen wrote: > note that the proposal is not to say "our users must not be allowed to use > github". It's "our developers must not be allowed to force contributors to > use github". Scott Kitterman wrote: > No one is forced to use any VCS to maintain Debian packages. If you don't > want

Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL

2019-07-29 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
(sorry for breaking the thread, I still haven't sorted that out) > ## > I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for modification. > Thus, like any non-source form, it must be accompanied by a way to obtain the > actual form for modification. There are many such

Re: Results of the Antiharassment Team Survey

2019-07-12 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
mmatically). As this is off-topic here, I'll seek help in some more appropriate place. Gerardo Il giorno mer 10 lug 2019 alle ore 17:59 Eldon Koyle ha scritto: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:02 AM Gerardo Ballabio > wrote: > > > > > Gerardo > > > > (P.S. I'd

Re: Results of the Antiharassment Team Survey

2019-07-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Russ Allbery wrote: > I think the goal should be to stop the behavior in violation of the Code of > Conduct. I see here an implicit assumption that whenever an alleged violation is reported, the allegation is actually true. I suspect that this is exactly the problem: many people are concerned

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
I'm sorry Sam. I sent my last message before reading yours. I will now abstain from further posting. Gerardo

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-02 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Il giorno lun 1 lug 2019 alle ore 18:24 Russ Allbery ha scritto: > That said, how *do* you want to handle this, assuming that other people in > the project do want to acknowledge important events for our community > members? For example, Debian has made note of Diwali in the past in > various

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-01 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
(Sorry to break the thread, but I wasn't Cc:d this message) Russ Allbery wrote: > So, we should look to our LGBTQ project members to decide what Debian should > do for Pride, to our Hispanic members to decide what Debian should do for > Hispanic Heritage Month, and so forth, since they're the

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-06-28 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Il giorno ven 28 giu 2019 alle ore 12:45 G. Branden Robinson ha scritto: > Can you please articulate: > 1. what the definite political connotation of Pride Month is (feel free > to cite a representative source); > 2. how it is in conflict with the position statement at the official > project URL

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-06-28 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Thanks for answering that specific question. I did indeed miss that. Replying separately to the other posters. Gerardo Il giorno ven 28 giu 2019 alle ore 14:56 Sam Hartman ha scritto: > > Hi. > Responding only to one thing at this time, and apologies if it has > already been covered. > >

Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-06-28 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Hello all, I've just seen this on https://micronews.debian.org/ : "In support of #pridemonth, Debian changes its website logo. The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity " May I please ask who decided that and where was it

Re: AH team delegation

2019-01-31 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:31:22AM +0100, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > > Hello, may I please ask a question: > > > > Does the Anti-Harassment (AH) Team have a delegation from the DPL? > No AFAIK. Thanks for your answer. > Hence &

AH team delegation

2019-01-29 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Hello, may I please ask a question: Does the Anti-Harassment (AH) Team have a delegation from the DPL? I had been actually assuming that it had, but when I searched, I was unable to find it: - I couldn't find any delegation mail in the d-d-a archives (please direct me to it if it's there and I

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
On 06/10/05 01:10:22, Chris Waters wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:34:14PM +0200, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: I was complaining that a screensaver, that is, a program that isn't expected to have anything to do with web surfing, could download *anything* without asking me. Of course if I

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
On 06/09/05 13:46:38, Philip Hands wrote: I believe you've missed the point. It's not that random goes of hunting for porn and slapping it on your screen, it's that certain offensive images may end up being downloaded, and then displayed to people who would prefer not to see them. I