Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > >At the various conferences I attended I have paid much attention to > > how other distributions and FOSS projects were promoting their work, and > > despite us often having t-shirts, stickers and posters like the others, > > we really miss a few t

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * martin f krafft > > | also sprach Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: > | >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > | > the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to creat

Re: [Fwd: Re: using debian project name to solicit donations]

2008-01-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008, Tobias Rundström wrote: > Sorry about the confusion, we are just a happy bunch of debian > advocates that happens to have a shell machine. I put the paypal > donation link up for the users on the machine to use for new spare > parts. If you find it offensive I will remo

Re: using debian project name to solicit donations

2008-01-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > Anyone got more info? > > Cc'ing leader (for debian trademark) and Allweb (for webserver). Thanks. For your information (the network is FreeNode): 13:24 -!- sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #xmms 13:24 -!- Topic for #xmms: HAPPY 10TH ANNIVERSARY || http:

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-21 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Again: Information about facts the DPL is complaining about should > > be regarded as important enough to make people feel that they have > > some relevance for the project and thus should be shared amongst > > people those who should know it (inclus

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-20 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > I know I'm fighting against the natural tide here, but just I'm trying > to stop a possible flamewar before it starts, if at all possible, so > couldn't this issue (of which I have no particular knowledge) be > addressed in a somewhat different pa

Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-20 Thread Sam Hocevar
Hi James, I hope that your current guilt-o-meter status will allow you to sympathise with your fellow developers and their current feelings, because I wouldn't enjoy an e-mail like this one either. It has come to a point where quite a few people I like and respect are considering leaving

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and a few other things

2007-11-03 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007, Frans Pop wrote: > Could you please explain in what way the addition of a single person to the > existing team (Phil already was DSA, even if not yet in the adm group) is > going to resolve all the huge and structural communication problems between > team members that we h

Re: Micros*ft deal

2007-06-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007, Robert Millan wrote: > Since every GNU/Linux distributor seems to be positioning with regards to > possible patent deals with Microsoft, I thought we could do the same. > > Actually, it's totally unthinkable that a non-profit organization could do > this kind of deal, in whi

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcet voting

2007-06-15 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: > You make another point, which is interesting, but which actually when > carried to its logical conclusion ends up being in support of Range > Voting over Condorcet. If you continue with the logic asking what > happens when Range Voting voters vo

Re: Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > Rough translation follows. Anyone willing to authenticate? > Feb 06 13:47:31 That from sam is timely To be fair, "voll daneben" is closer here to "off the mark". -- Sam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007, Patrick Frank wrote: > Feb 06 13:39:38 Tolimar, http://sam2007.zoy.org/ > Feb 06 13:39:51 Tolimar, ich habe so ein Gefühl, daß Sven > darauf reagiert Sven told me on February 25th in front of several other DDs that he was going to vote for me. Mein Gott, was für eine Rea

Re: What do Open Source Projects need?

2007-06-04 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Patrick Frank wrote: >> **, you suck. >> I desperately hope Debian will recover from these months. >> PS: Please go see a psychologist. Really. > >Such public statements are not surprising since Sam Hocevar >was el

Re: Jury (was Re: Two GR concepts for dicussion)

2007-06-01 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, May 31, 2007, Philippe Cloutier wrote: > I don't like it at first read, but you may provide examples of > situations where such a procedure could be useful. In particular, just > determining "who's right" doesn't help much. As for determining what > punishments are plausible, isn't this

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:13:02PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > >But you are not asking for justice, you are asking for revenge and > > retalation. And as long as I am the project leader there shall be no > > revenge or retalatio

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:14:23AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > then so be it, debian is better off without such persons whose behaviour > > > will only hurt the proj

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > then so be it, debian is better off without such persons whose behaviour > will only hurt the project again one way or another, and should not be > encouraged. These are words of pure wisdom, thank you. Empathy would be the next step to enlightenment.

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-28 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > publicly addressed. Sven, first of all, please restrict your postings to debian-project, ideally to specific

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, May 11, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > >Please, Sven. There is already one thread about you in -vote where > > you are already copiously posting and that people are acutely following. > > I therefore suggest restricting your interventions to that thread. > > Sam, please tell me, what in t

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-11 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, May 11, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:56:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU PLEASE. PLEASE LEAVE. > > Then please comment on the second part of my post, and stop making it an > attack on me instead. You are as much responsible of w

Re: Bits from the DPL

2007-04-27 Thread Sam Hocevar
[moving to -project as I should have done with my original message] On Fri, Apr 27, 2007, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > >Matt Taggart proposed that dpkg developers meet in person during a > > dpkg summit[9] to talk about future dpkg development. The meeting would > > be sponsored at least by Debi

Re: Social Committee proposal text (diff)

2007-02-13 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > > we only use hashes in the tally sheet for leader elections? > > Or in other words: I 100% of the votes regarding persons, we have a > secret vote. Not quite 100%. A DPL recall vote is about a person. Cheers, -- Sam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: A propos de : www.fr.debian.org

2007-02-13 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007, Steffen Joeris wrote: > Bonsoir Ah, please. Don't reply to spam. Sam. -- echo "creationism" | tr -d "holy godly goal" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Criteria for a successful DPL board

2007-02-12 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > just to clarify my point: I am all for critical feedback, > preferably in a friendly and constructive manner. To read it on a > public mailinglist constitutes both a waste of bandwidth (as > hundred of people who are not involved in your personal > i

Re: Criteria for a successful DPL board

2007-02-12 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > I would ask you on behalf of debian to not run for office for > those reasons. Wow, on behalf of Debian? > [1] when asked about who you would vote for you stated publicly > that you would not think that I was a good candidate and you > would rat

Re: 3D Debian-Logo

2007-02-12 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'm seeking for a source of the 3D swirl that was used for instance at > > http://www.wordit.com/catalog/images/debian_swirl_mousepad.jpg > > prefered as SVG graphics if available, bug reasonable resolution > (800x600) PNG might do as well. It

Re: how to donate free program for Debian?

2007-01-30 Thread Sam Hocevar
(Not speaking on behalf of the Debian project) On Tue, Jan 30, 2007, Cognaxon wrote: > we would like to donate our free small program called > "WSQ viewer" (for Linux) to be distributed with Debian > CD/DVD. The short description of the program is here > http://www.cognaxon.com/index.php?page

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If one considers appointing a DSA nagging assistant instead, then of > > course it's not worth doing! It seems to be miss the point, though. > > The problem is insufficient communication, not insufficient

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-13 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > > 1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely > > humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the > > dollars in their pockets droped their

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-13 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment, > > Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the > experiment is continued until its scheduled end, and what's going

Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-12 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment > people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make > up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and > effort can be mustered just by hav

Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment"

2006-10-27 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006, Drew Parsons wrote: > I appreciate that I have simplified the grey nuances for the sake of > establishing my point about the results of the experiment, but please be > advised it is in no way a straw-man characterisation [1]. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/20

Re: More polls and social pressure

2006-02-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > > Please take into account that the second part of my mail is only an idea, > > that it's in no way perfect. I know it looks like public delation and so > > on. I'm looking forward for ideas to improve th

Re: Debian mailing lists, address munging, news gateway, and the list archives

2003-11-20 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: > And it is properly implemented as a web-based NNTP client. I've no > idea why people insist on reimplementing NNTP badly, complete with > client lock-in, in these forum things. Animated GIF emoticons. -- Sam.

Re: Are you strongly connected? A Debian keyring analysis

2003-07-18 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > It would be good to have all keys in the Debian keyring in a strongly > connected set, i.e., so that there is a signature path from every key to > every other key in the keyring. There must be connected groups amongs the keys not in the biggest gro