Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 08:23:52PM]: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: cook this story _again_. You may be right, or not, it is just off-topic. And beating dead horses

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:31:19PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You do not need to waste any more words on explaining that my perception is wrong. I got your point already. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:30:31AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:31:19PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You do not need to waste any more words on explaining that my perception is wrong. I got

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Julien BLACHE
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the exact example of why things went bad in erkelenz, because you are unable to hear what others have to say, and want to impose your own opinion on others. And, when it comes to that, you know what you're talking about. JB. -- Julien BLACHE -

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue May 29, 2007 at 11:29:47 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: This is the exact example of why things went bad in erkelenz, because you are unable to hear what others have to say, and want to impose your own opinion on others. Pot. Kettle. Black. Steve -- http://www.steve.org.uk/ -- To

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:53:07AM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the exact example of why things went bad in erkelenz, because you are unable to hear what others have to say, and want to impose your own opinion on others. And, when it comes to

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:45:31PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:03:50AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:52:49 Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: Hi Sven, are you part of an organisation called GNAA? Regardless

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Andreas Barth wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: 17:55:11 svenl waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel alioth team ? 17:57:44 waldi nope No answer yet, and : 18:34:59

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and waldi didn't want to remove Sven but accidently removed one line too much or something? He'll probably speak up and explain things. I already said that I can't

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Bastian Blank wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and waldi didn't want to remove Sven but accidently removed one line too much or something? He'll probably speak up and explain things. I

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 11:18]: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and waldi didn't want to remove Sven but accidently removed one line too much or something? He'll probably

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and waldi didn't want to remove Sven but accidently removed one line too much or something? He'll

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 12:14]: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: I can understand the latter. However, maybe it was just a mistake and waldi didn't want to remove Sven but

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 12:28]: It seems that waldi doesn't want to do it, and also not to give any statement that he wanted to kick you out. I consider this a very bad behaviour, at least. And not acceptable. After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:41:59PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 12:28]: It seems that waldi doesn't want to do it, and also not to give any statement that he wanted to kick you out. I consider this a very bad behaviour, at least. And not

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. It is not enough, i want the suspension revoked, since it was a stupid decision, which has achieved nothing except worsen the situation, and was taken contrary to the DAMs procedure, and in a shady and

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 13:23]: [...] Sven, this whole thread is about that your commit access to the kernel svn repro was revoked without anyone telling you. What then happened is that the alioth admins published that waldi revoked the access, waldi refused to comment to it,

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 07:01:38PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: For the record, i did ask on #debian-kernel, and got no reply, and when asked, Bastian Blank did say he didn't know who did it, and Stephan Gran, and Roland Mas, who are admining alioth, know, but don't want to say. Hrm, last time

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:03:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. It is not enough, i want the suspension revoked, since it was a stupid decision, which has achieved nothing except worsen the

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:33:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 13:23]: [...] Sven, this whole thread is about that your commit access to the kernel This whole thread is about me being stopped from doing meaningful debian technical contribution and

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 05:04:49PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 07:01:38PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: For the record, i did ask on #debian-kernel, and got no reply, and when asked, Bastian Blank did say he didn't know who did it, and Stephan Gran, and Roland Mas, who

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven, stop it already! We've seen this several times already. You're not bringing up anything new. You're not helping yourself if you continue. Regards, Joey -- It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 05:40:26PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven, stop it already! why should i ? The times i stopped, i got punished worse without provocation ? We've seen this several times already. Yes, so, what ? I have seen that if i don't make a fuss over this, everyone is pretty

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Richard Hecker
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:03:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. It is not enough, i want the suspension revoked, since it was a stupid decision, which has achieved

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 28 May 2007, Michael Banck wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 07:01:38PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: For the record, i did ask on #debian-kernel, and got no reply, and when asked, Bastian Blank did say he didn't know who did it, and Stephan Gran, and Roland Mas, who are admining alioth,

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:14:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:03:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. It is not enough, i want the

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 06:00:36PM]: You're not bringing up anything new. And i will repeat it as long as people try to ignore me, and until Debian stands up and act in a dign and honourable way in this. You're not helping yourself if you continue. You mean,

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 06:00:36PM]: You're not bringing up anything new. And i will repeat it as long as people try to ignore me, and until Debian stands up and act in a dign and honourable way

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 08:23:52PM]: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: cook this story _again_. You may be right, or not, it is just off-topic. And beating dead horses won't make you many friends. Because i am not yet as dead as the

Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. There was nothing in the judgement of the DAMs which mandated this, and this is again the repetition of

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. There was nothing in the judgement of

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. Have you asked on debian-kernel what's going on? Regards, Joey -- Linux

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 27 May 2007 09:42:35 David Weinehall wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:42:35PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:56:38PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. Have you

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:26:08PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:28:37PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. Have you asked on

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: If it would be done to anyone but me, you would cry in outrage, then why not do so now ? Because there are too many hidden powers involved ? Thanks for knowing how I would react. Maybe I should ask you whenever I'm in a situation where I don't know how to act.

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:52:13PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: If it would be done to anyone but me, you would cry in outrage, then why not do so now ? Because there are too many hidden powers involved ? Thanks for knowing how I would react. Maybe I should ask

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:52:49PM +0200, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Hi Sven, are you part of an organisation called GNAA? It is not nice to joke about your fellows hurt. Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:52:49 Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: Hi Sven, are you part of an organisation called GNAA? Regardless of how you[1] feel about Sven, can you please stop trolling him? I know this was probably meant to be funny because it's a recent Debian mȇme, this is really just

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:56:38PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Hi all, Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have been removed from the alioth kernel team. Have you

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi all, On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: 17:55:11 svenl waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel alioth team ? 17:57:44 waldi nope No answer yet, and : 18:34:59 sgran I am not going to answer questions about who it was, that will need to be argued about on a

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 08:53:36PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi all, On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: 17:55:11 svenl waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel alioth team ? 17:57:44 waldi nope No answer yet, and : 18:34:59 sgran I am not going to

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 10:23:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070527 20:56]: Hi all, On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: 17:55:11 svenl waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel alioth team ? 17:57:44 waldi nope No

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:03:50AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:52:49 Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: Hi Sven, are you part of an organisation called GNAA? Regardless of how you[1] feel about Sven, can you please stop trolling him? Damn, how fool was I. I