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On Jo, 23 iun 11, 06:50:54, Greg Heath wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a client that appears to be running a pre-release or beta release of
> Etch R0, the date on the bu
Hi,
I have a client that appears to be running a pre-release or beta release of
Etch R0, the date on the build is July 2006.
I am not able to find a corresponding version within your archive database.
Regards,
Greg Heath
Technical Manager
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Fernando Ike de Oliveira wrote:
Ok. The first step would be to test again? I can do it and report
debian-lsb, right?
Yup, that would be a start.
Is the process for LSB Certification is complex? My
employer is very interested in to help.
It's much better than it used to be. Here's a
Em Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:06:25 -0400
Jeff Licquia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>
> Yes; I was working on Debian's certification, but got bogged down in
> other issues.
>
> In the meantime, there was an obscure X library issue that appeared
> in an etch update. I have yet to track down the issu
Fernando Ike de Oliveira wrote:
Hi Folks,
I looked LSB Distribution Status of the LSB page[1] and there is
written that the Debian Etch is as planned to LSB 3.1, but I remember
that the Etch was launched[2] as compatible with LSB 3.1.
Change status to "certified" is easy
Hi Folks,
I looked LSB Distribution Status of the LSB page[1] and there is
written that the Debian Etch is as planned to LSB 3.1, but I remember
that the Etch was launched[2] as compatible with LSB 3.1.
Change status to "certified" is easy? And as I can help it? =)
Hi Folks,
I looked LSB Distribution Status of the LSB page[1] and there is
written that the Debian Etch is as planned to LSB 3.1, but I remember
that the Etch was launched[2] as compatible with LSB 3.1.
Change status to "certified" is easy? And as I can help it? =)
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 15:50 +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Hans-Georg Bork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked in a PS months ago:
> > [...] did anyone ask FSF
> > for the reason they paid Ian in the first year of debian (IIRC) ?
>
> "We are distributing it as an interim measure until the GNU kernel (the
> Hurd) i
Hans-Georg Bork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked in a PS months ago:
> [...] did anyone ask FSF
> for the reason they paid Ian in the first year of debian (IIRC) ?
"We are distributing it as an interim measure until the GNU kernel (the
Hurd) is ready for users."
Source http://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull1
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Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Did the Finnish Red Cross change from just volunteers to volunteers
> > and paid staff? If so, how?
>
> I don't know the history of the FRC that well. I do know that there
> have been paid staff for at least 50 years
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Did the Finnish Red Cross change from just volunteers to volunteers
> and paid staff? If so, how?
I don't know the history of the FRC that well. I do know that there
have been paid staff for at least 50 years.
> Unsurprisingly, I don't think FRC publish that
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] the Finnish Red Cross, which
> has a staff of a two hundred or so paid workers in addition to the
> thousands of volunteers. There are very few conflicts between the
> volunteers and the paid staff [...]
Did the Finnish Red Cross change from just vo
Khan_Kubrat Dulo_IYI wrote:
> when the new release Debian Etch will be officially released?
We don't know exactly. When it's ready.
This is the last status report:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg8.html
Try monitoring the debian-devel-announce li
Hello and Happy New Year! :) I wish you success with Debian!
I want to ask you when the new release Debian Etch will be officially released?
I want the officiall stable release. I like the testing it's very good! :)
Bye!
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:29:21 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> > Why? Because not only my personal experience in NPOs but also the
> > scientific literature on this subject show that a mix of paid staff
> > and volunteers in an organization/project leads to
> > disagreement/conflicts;
> This is not a
gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why? Because not only my personal experience in NPOs but also the
> scientific literature on this subject show that a mix of paid staff
> and volunteers in an organization/project leads to
> disagreement/conflicts; and that introducing organzational cha
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 03:20:07AM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> IMO the "real question" is how we as the Debian community cope with
> the social system called "Debian", especially with the issue of
> organziational change. -- And from my POV it would be helpful if
> either those "techies" who ha
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:10:32 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Thanks for presenting your thoughts.
I'm going to make a few remarks on a meta level:
> - Debian shouldn't do funding of Debian work for various reasons,
> that add up to it not having the support of the developer body
[..]
>
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:32:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:24:32PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > > Actually, I believe you'll find that that wasn't even put forward as a
> > > metric for the experiment.
> > In your own words, the experiment was to allocate sufficient fun
whatever. you're all amazing.
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 01:39:10PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 07:35:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, as said, i think this is a very good time to make an actual,
> > third-party and impartial sociological study of the impact of this
> > "experiment", as said, ther
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 07:35:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> Well, as said, i think this is a very good time to make an actual,
> third-party and impartial sociological study of the impact of this
> "experiment", as said, there where various people doing such studies
> of the debian community, wh
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 12:48:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 08:40:41AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I would further expect that you didn't try to pollute the experiment result
> > with stuff like the mail starting this thread. From the tone of that mail,
> > it
> > in
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 10:19 +, MJ Ray wrote:
> It didn't fulfil that condition: Etch didn't release on Mon 4 Dec 06 -
> or is the next chunk of funding going to repairing the time machine
> that was broken next week?
There's no need for a time machine to release on Mon 4 Dec 06. All what
you n
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 08:40:41AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> I would further expect that you didn't try to pollute the experiment result
> with stuff like the mail starting this thread. From the tone of that mail, it
> indicated clearly that for you the experiment was over, and that you called
>
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:24:32PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > > Actually, I believe you'll find that that wasn't even put forward as a
> > > metric for the experiment.
I didn't write that.
> > In your own words, the experiment was to allocate sufficient funds so
> > that Ste
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Given this isn't a "DPL" funding initiative, I think you're way off base.
>
> It's not only because you subtly outsourced it.
"subtly" ? HAHAHAHAHAHA.
JB.
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:33:49PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > [...] Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
> > > 'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out that
> > > the logistical issues alone
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:32:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns
wrote:
> Given this isn't a "DPL" funding initiative, I think you're way off base.
It's not only because you subtly outsourced it.
Mike
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > [...] Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
> > 'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out that
> > the logistical issues alone are enough of a problem to make this sort
> > of endeavour not worth t
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:24:32PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Actually, I believe you'll find that that wasn't even put forward as a
> > metric for the experiment.
> In your own words, the experiment was to allocate sufficient funds so
> that Steve Langasek and Andreas Barth can dedicate a month each
Bill Allombert dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 07:09:22PM +]:
> I am concerned you missed all the QA work and other works done by what you
> call "anti-payment" people. Never so much work was done prior to a
> release. It certainly show there are enough people willing to invest
> effort in the relea
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:04:04PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
> Marc Haber wrote:
> > Otoh, I see a truckload of unpaid DDs vituperating and spreading bad
> > mood around the project. _That's_ the real harm that was caused - very
> > indirectly - by dunctank.
>
> I tend to agree with you.
>
> Real expe
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006, Riku Voipio wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> > 1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely
> > humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the
> > dollars in their pockets droped their
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 04:02:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
> effort can be m
Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100]:
> How are you going to measure the long-term demotivation which results from the
> experiment ? How are you going to measure the already happened demotivation ?
> How are you going to guarantee that the previously demotivated folk who
> remo
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:47:26AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:53:52AM +0100]:
> > > > Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
> > >
> > > I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
> > > thing?
> >
> > As current gnome is 2.16
Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:53:52AM +0100]:
> > > Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
> >
> > I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
> > thing?
>
> As current gnome is 2.16, probably 2.18 before etch is released, i guess he
> means we are already
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:09:54PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> >> > > I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists.
> >> >
> >> > Well, the experiment is flawed [...]
>
> >> Let me ask again: What is going to happen when the experiment is
> >> continued? [...]
>
> Sven Luther,
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:48:45PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Like said, the experiment will finish once it is officially finished, and
> > once
> > the analysis has been done, and the final report result is published. Given
> > the
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:56:33AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > The release was the only metric put forward for the experiment,
> > despite various requests.
>
> Actually, I believe you'll find that that wasn't even put forward as a
> metric for the experiment.
In your own word
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:40:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > As far as I remember, the experiment has two steps, paying Steve for a
> > month and paying Andi for a month. Steve's month is already over, and
> > Andi is like in his t
>> > > I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists.
>> >
>> > Well, the experiment is flawed [...]
>> Let me ask again: What is going to happen when the experiment is
>> continued? [...]
Sven Luther, 2006-12-13 13:21:35 +0100 :
> How are you going to measure the long-term de
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> Like said, the experiment will finish once it is officially finished, and once
> the analysis has been done, and the final report result is published. Given
> the impact of long-term demotivation, you can thus not expect the experiment
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> As far as I remember, the experiment has two steps, paying Steve for a
> month and paying Andi for a month. Steve's month is already over, and
> Andi is like in his third week. So - again - as far as I remember
> there is only one week o
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > One thing you could do is to end *NOW
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
> >
> > Can you please roughly outline what is go
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> 1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely
> humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the
> dollars in their pockets droped their fun hability. That's a pitty.
Ah, the "It's just
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
>
> Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the
> experiment is continued until its scheduled en
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
>
> Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the
> experiment is continued until its scheduled end, and what's going
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the
experiment is continued until its scheduled end, and what's going to
happen when the experiment is aborted immediate
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
Actually, we cherry-picked some good 2.16 modules as well; nothing like
the full desktop, but still worth mentioning.
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Marc Haber wrote:
> Otoh, I see a truckload of unpaid DDs vituperating and spreading bad
> mood around the project. _That's_ the real harm that was caused - very
> indirectly - by dunctank.
I tend to agree with you.
Real experiments are done in Lab conditions, in 0-gravity environments
and the s
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:07:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> >It looks to me that you are now asking others to set up the
> > experimental protocol you failed to deliver when the "experiment" was
> > being discussed. As of now,
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 05:37:23PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 07:58:50PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> >
> > Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
> >
>
> I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
> thing?
As current gnome is 2.16, pr
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 07:58:50PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
>
> Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
>
I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
thing?
Regards,
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 06:15:03PM +1000, Anthony Towns
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:11:31AM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> > > people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it"
Anthony Towns wrote:
> As far as any hypothetical PR is concerned, "vocal critics of the
> Dunc-Tank procedure declined to contribute any effort to getting the
> release out sooner, even to demonstrate how effective Debian can be in
> the absence of paid work" seems like it would be entirely suffic
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote:
>It looks to me that you are now asking others to set up the
> experimental protocol you failed to deliver when the "experiment" was
> being discussed. As of now, anything that might happen can be reused for
> a Dunc-Tank PR explainin
"Anthony Towns" wrote
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it"
>
> I've been told they're probably too cynical to try...
Well, one of the main criticisms against the experiment was that it might
de-
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Now if only you could understand that we don't give a shit about the
>> release date, that would be a great step forward.
>>
>> Only quality matters.
>
> Kindly speak for yourself. I happen to give a shit about the release
I speak for (most of) the so-cal
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:56:33AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > In the context of an experiment to
> > find out whether paying people to do Debian work can be useful, it'd
> > certainly provide some useful information as to whether there are better
> > alternatives for encouraging contributions and get
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
> effort can be mustered just by hav
Anthony Towns wrote: [...]
> It might be that many of
> the anti-payment people are actually also just not that interested in
> getting the release out (or are even opposed to it), though. And I've
> been told they're probably too cynical to try something like the above
> anyway, so it's probably
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 06:15:03PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:11:31AM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> > > people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it",
Marc Haber a écrit :
Otoh, I see a truckload of unpaid DDs vituperating and spreading bad
mood around the project. _That's_ the real harm that was caused - very
indirectly - by dunctank.
Ok, so you want to count bad-mood seeds?
Telling what is an appropriate behaviour or not - just as if getti
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 05:47:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> > Anthony Towns a ?crit :
> > >Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> > >people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it",
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:11:31AM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> > people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> > up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how muc
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> 1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely
> humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the
> dollars in their pockets droped their fun hability. That's a pitty.
Considering that t
Anthony Towns wrote:
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
I hereby set December 6th 2007 as release date. With help
Anthony Towns wrote:
>> Now if only you could understand that we don't give a shit about the
>> release date, that would be a great step forward.
>> Only quality matters.
>
> Quality is not, and has never been, the question.
Given how one of the two release managers treated some of the RC bugs,
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:11:31AM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> > people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> > up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how muc
Anthony Towns wrote:
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
Now if only you could understand that we don't give a sh
At 1165909673 time_t, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I'm not angry. I just think now's the perfect opportunity for people
> who think paying people isn't or shouldn't be what Debian's about
> to demonstrate that there's an alternative that better achieves this
> particular goal. In particular starting now
Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anthony Towns a écrit :
>> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
>> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and
>> make up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy
>> and effo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> Anthony Towns a ?crit :
> >Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> >people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> >up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how muc
Anthony Towns a écrit :
Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
effort can be mustered just by having a good idea and good p
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
> people to say "we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it", and make
> up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
> effort can be mustered just by havi
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 03:13:15PM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> Russ Allbery a ?crit :
> >>Hi, would like to know which day of December will be launched and
> >>version of the Debian Etch Stable.
> >So would we. :)
> >The only answer we can give you is "
Russ Allbery a écrit :
Hi, would like to know which day of December will be launched and
version of the Debian Etch Stable.
So would we. :)
The only answer we can give you is "when it's ready," which may or may not
be in December.
If I were a troll-feeder, I would say th
João Henrique Furtado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, would like to know which day of December will be launched and
> version of the Debian Etch Stable.
So would we. :)
The only answer we can give you is "when it's ready," which may or may not
be in December
Hi, would like to know which day of December will be launched and version of
the Debian Etch Stable.
Tank's.
João Henrique Furtado. São Paulo - Brazil.
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On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:27:47PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Getting off-topic, excuse me but let me follow-up Andrew.
I don't think this thread has *ever* been on-topic :P
But hey, we may as well wring some modicum of interesting discussion
from it.
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 01:37:38AM +,
Getting off-topic, excuse me but let me follow-up Andrew.
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 01:37:38AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> Curious. But I've since found a paper which observes that, for no
> apparent reason, the 'ch' sound in English tends to map onto an -i
> ending rather than the -u which mos
[Alas, mutt and emacs have conspired to mangle the japanese in the
quoting - it was fine when I was reading it]
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:31:40AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > While it
> > would be strictly legal to use 'ecchi' as the pronunciation, there are
> > better choices, and nobody is goin
Hi Andrew,
I enjoyed reading your very knowledgeable analysis despite of the fact
I disagreed on few points.
(Non-ascii character following)
Anyway let me clarify that the Debian code name "etch", if I transcribe
it into Japanese, it will be "エッチ". It has the exact same spelling
in Japanese as
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 07:02:08PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > "lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you should rename this release or
> > at least the japanese version...
That's the edict translation. The problem with edict is that it's
crap, and kinda outdated in places. Imagine a random mixtu
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 02:29:45PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > Thomas Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give
> > > you a hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means
> > > "indec
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Thomas Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give you a
> > hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means "indecent",
> > "lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you sh
Thomas Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give you a
> hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means "indecent",
> "lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you should rename this release or
> at least the japanese version...
I belie
Well, if it's written in English, (japanese) people mainly won't
associate with the special meaning.
Anyway, found the japanese translation here
http://debian.fam.cx/index.php?install#content_1_4 and it explains the
Toy-Story related name. So should be fine. But maybe some japanese
readers droo
On Tue, 03 Jan 2006, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Thomas Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give
> > you a hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means
> > "indecent", "lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you should rename
> > this rel
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Thomas Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give you a
> hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means "indecent",
> "lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you should rename this release
In case no japanese Debian user has told you yet - just to give you a
hint: the word "etch" (written as H) in Japanese means "indecent",
"lewd" or just "pornographic". Maybe you should rename this release or
at least the japanese version...
TH
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