Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-09-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Holger" == Holger Levsen writes: Holger> Hi Sam, why exactly do you think a delegation is useful Holger> and/or needed here? Holger and I discussed that off-list. As a result he made two proposals: 1) Avoid the word privy in the delegation text as that's confusing to a non-native

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-09-05 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le jeudi 05 septembre 2019 à 09:35:01-0400, Sam Hartman a écrit : > > "Adam" == Adam D Barratt writes: > > > I don't think it even means that. > > > 8.2. Appointment > > > The Delegates are appointed by the Project Leader and may be replaced > > by the Leader at the Leader's discretio

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-09-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adam" == Adam D Barratt writes: I don't think it even means that. > 8.2. Appointment > The Delegates are appointed by the Project Leader and may be replaced > by the Leader at the Leader's discretion. The Project Leader may not > make the position as a Delegate conditional on par

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-09-05 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2019-09-05 11:28, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Le 29 août 2019 13:33:14 GMT+02:00, Holger Levsen a écrit : On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The implication of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL. Looking at powers of the DPL: 5 Project Leader 5.1 P

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-09-05 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le 29 août 2019 13:33:14 GMT+02:00, Holger Levsen a écrit : >On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >> The implication of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL. >> Looking at powers of the DPL: >> >> 5 Project Leader >> 5.1 Powers >> (5) Propose draft General

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group"): > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I'm not sure why you think this isn't a thing that can be delegated ? > > mostly because it's very unusual, us

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The implication of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL. > Looking at powers of the DPL: > > 5 Project Leader > 5.1 Powers > (5) Propose draft General Resolutions and amendments. > > I'm not sure why you think this isn

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group"): > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:47:44AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Task Description > > > [...] > > The group is delegated the power to introduce or amend a general reso

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Sam, why exactly do you think a delegation is useful and/or needed here? On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:47:44AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Task Description > [...] > The group is delegated the power to introduce or amend a general resolution > overriding a delegation that the DP

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: Norbert> Hi Sam, I think this is a good idea, but ... Norbert> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: >> * Joerg Jaspert * Steve McIntyre >> <93...@debian.org> * Theodore Y. Ts'o * Enrico >> Zini Norbert> I consider this li

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes: Jonathan> Just one thing that I am /slightly/ confused about (which Jonathan> means that there might be someone else who is too). The Jonathan> topic, and particularly "Delegation Advisory Group" gave Jonathan> me the impression that thi

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-28 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/08/28 17:47, Sam Hartman wrote: > This group will help me by being a group that I can get advice from even > when I need to share confidential information to get that advice. > One of the reasons I'm proposing to delegate this rather than treating > it informally is to make it clear that th

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-28 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Sam, I think this is a good idea, but ... On Wed, 28 Aug 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > * Joerg Jaspert > * Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> > * Theodore Y. Ts'o > * Enrico Zini I consider this list too strong an aggregation of duties and powers - most of them are already in core positions i

Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-28 Thread Sam Hartman
[intentionally not signed because this is a comment-seeking draft] Hi. As discussed in [1], I'm forming a delegation advisory group to help me with upcoming delegations. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/tslftm5c1e7@suchdamage.org This group will help me by being a group that I