Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 22:58 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > zope2.9 is simply still sitting in NEW, and is not rejected. I see there > was a clarification requested over the weekend about the big number of > zope versions in the archive (2.9 would be the 4th), and Fabio replied. > This was tw

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:32:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > > > Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses > > > python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for > > > removal. > > > > Can you please be more specific?

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > > Unfortunately FTP masters did reject the Zope2.x upload, which uses > > python2.4. Any reasons for that? Zope2.7 already was scheduled for > > removal. > > Can you please be more specific? And/or reply to the REJECT mail, as it > states at the bottom of every reje

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 04:33:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:41:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > > So, because there were no objections to the python 2.1/2.2 removal, > > > I'll be proceed

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Matthias Klose wrote: > ok, I did run out of time last weekend, however python2.5, > python2.3-doc, python2.4-doc are in NEW. According your logic about > vacation times, the change of the default version probably should not > be done before Easter. Easter is 4 days or a full

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:41:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > So, because there were no objections to the python 2.1/2.2 removal, > > I'll be proceeding with that. > > Done now, I'd like to announce this, together wi

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-11 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:41:13AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > So, because there were no objections to the python 2.1/2.2 removal, > I'll be proceeding with that. Done now, I'd like to announce this, together with some warning about default python version changes, if

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-11 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
x27;re roughly 16 weeks from the python freeze, including the debconf period and the summer holiday period (for the northern hemisphere, that is). During these mere 16 weeks, python 2.1 & 2.2 needs to be dropped, the default moved to 2.4, and the plan is to overhaul the python policy/infrastr

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-11 Thread Rene Engelhard
Matthias Klose wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > > The first freezes are already closing in fast, > > did I miss something? There's no update since > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/10/msg4.html Yes. At least the January, 3rd one (http://lists.debian.org/debian-deve

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-08 Thread Ben Burton
> decompyle2.2 has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev This is a legacy package, and it requires python 2.2 (it will not work with 2.3 or newer). I have just filed an ftp.d.o bug asking for it to be removed. Users should have no problem switching to the newer decompyle package instea

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Iustin Pop
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:38:43PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > I've already re-built these two packages, removing 2.1 and 2.2 support > and adding 2.4. However, I've been unable to find a sponsor. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Will update the bug reports later today with the relevant informa

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeroen van Wolffelaar writes: > The first freezes are already closing in fast, did I miss something? There's no update since http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/10/msg4.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006, Iustin Pop wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:33:11PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > python-pylibacl has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev > > python-pyxattr has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev > > I've already re-built these two packages,

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:38:43PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:33:11PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > python-pylibacl has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev > > python-pyxattr has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev > > I've already re-buil

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Iustin Pop
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:33:11PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > python-pylibacl has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev > python-pyxattr has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev I've already re-built these two packages, removing 2.1 and 2.2 support and adding 2.4. How

Re: Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:33 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > zopeinterface has an unsatisfied build-dependency: python2.2-dev This package can be removed, pythonX-zopeinterface are now built from zope3 source package. -- Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.''`. P

Python 2.1/2.2 removal; Python 2.4 as default

2006-04-07 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Hi all, It's been quite a while, but 2.1 and to a slightly lesser extend, 2.2 are really obsolete now. One of the issues with 2.1 and 2.2 are that they don't build on amd64, and are holding up a whole chain of packages also. Therefore, I'd like to remove python 2.1 and 2.2 as s

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-07-13 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/12/05, Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you misunderstood my suggestion, and probably the suggestion of > the OP. I did not suggest that we continue to maintain packages > depending on these old Python versions. I just suggested that we > continue to support the interpr

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-07-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:26:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 12 juillet 2005 à 14:35 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici a écrit : > > I did some hacking on pychecker earlier this year, and it was really > > nice to have 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 all available on the same Debian > > system. I wou

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-07-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 juillet 2005 à 14:35 -0500, Kenneth Pronovici a écrit : > I did some hacking on pychecker earlier this year, and it was really > nice to have 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 all available on the same Debian > system. I would be disappointed if Debian dropped these interpreters > completely for e

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-07-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:54:10AM -0700, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 13:40, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > I once had a discussion with Matthias Klose about reducing the number > > of Python versions in Debian and he said he'd like to get rid of 2.1 > > and 2.2 after sarge is out.

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 13:40, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I once had a discussion with Matthias Klose about reducing the number > of Python versions in Debian and he said he'd like to get rid of 2.1 > and 2.2 after sarge is out. If I remember correctly, a problem is > that 2.1 is needed by Jython and

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-13 Thread Ben Burton
> However we should keep jython in the archives, upstream shows some > activity for python2.3/2.4 compatibility. For reference, it seems upstream is currently looking at a final (non-beta) release around August [1]. Though they've missed deadlines before, so please don't take this as definitive.

Re: [Pkg-zope-developers] Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.12.2326 +0200]: > i asked about this recently on the pkg-zope-developers list. > someone claimed that providing a smooth upgrade from zope 2.6 to > 2.7 would be good, and maybe that implies that zope 2.6 will stay > in the archive for some more

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
python2.4. > AFAIK besides zope there are no other reasons to keep 2.3 in the > archives. according to upstream, zope 2.6 (default zope version in debian) should best be run with python 2.1. python 2.2 is already depreciated. as zope (2.6.4-1.8) already runs with python 2.2, at least this ve

Re: Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Martin Michlmayr writes: > I once had a discussion with Matthias Klose about reducing the number > of Python versions in Debian and he said he'd like to get rid of 2.1 > and 2.2 after sarge is out. If I remember correctly, a problem is > that 2.1 is needed by Jython and 2.1 by Zope. Can someone p

Let's think about removing Python 2.1 and 2.2

2005-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
I once had a discussion with Matthias Klose about reducing the number of Python versions in Debian and he said he'd like to get rid of 2.1 and 2.2 after sarge is out. If I remember correctly, a problem is that 2.1 is needed by Jython and 2.1 by Zope. Can someone please work on a plan to move thes

Re: RC wxwindows reports preventing python 2.1 -> 2.2 transition

2003-05-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Ron writes: > > Howdy, > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > For wxwindows2.2 and 2.4 I see two RC reports. Any chance to fix these > > soon? > > Well the bts issues relating to the package itself should now all > be fixed in the 2.4.0.8 upload, however it appea

Re: RC wxwindows reports preventing python 2.1 -> 2.2 transition

2003-04-20 Thread Ron
Howdy, On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > For wxwindows2.2 and 2.4 I see two RC reports. Any chance to fix these > soon? Well the bts issues relating to the package itself should now all be fixed in the 2.4.0.8 upload, however it appears its still going to be kept

Re: RC wxwindows reports preventing python 2.1 -> 2.2 transition

2003-04-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Ron writes: > > What about removing wxwindows2.3 from unstable. AFAICR this was a > > "development" release anyway. Same for 2.2, no other packages seem to > > depend on this version anymore. > > Yes, they are certainly candidates for removal asap. When I looked > yesterday poedit still showed up

Re: RC wxwindows reports preventing python 2.1 -> 2.2 transition

2003-04-05 Thread Ron
Howdy, On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > For wxwindows2.2 and 2.4 I see two RC reports. Any chance to fix these > soon? The biggest issue with them IMO is the png mess, and the right fix to avoid thrashing on all sides is probably to transition them to gtk2 sooner

RC wxwindows reports preventing python 2.1 -> 2.2 transition

2003-04-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Hi, For wxwindows2.2 and 2.4 I see two RC reports. Any chance to fix these soon? What about removing wxwindows2.3 from unstable. AFAICR this was a "development" release anyway. Same for 2.2, no other packages seem to depend on this version anymore. Thanks, Matthias

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread Florian Weimer
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think we do agree that the License of Python 2.1.1, according to the > FSF, is compatible with the GPL ? Yes! > This section is incorrect, in that Python 1.6.1 has yet another > different license. It should read something like > > The License of

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011107 16:08]: > Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > Python 1.6.1 is essentially the same as Python 1.6, with a few minor > >> > bug fixes, and with a different license that enables later versions > >> > to be GPL-compatible. > >>

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread Florian Weimer
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Python 1.6.1 is essentially the same as Python 1.6, with a few minor >> > bug fixes, and with a different license that enables later versions >> > to be GPL-compatible. >> >> The license claims to be GPL compatible, but according to the

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread dman
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:10:31PM +0100, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: | * Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011107 15:04]: | > Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > > It's probably better to check if you're unsure rather than speculate or | > > guess. From the 2.1.1 LICENCE file: | >

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011107 15:04]: > Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's probably better to check if you're unsure rather than speculate or > > guess. From the 2.1.1 LICENCE file: > > > > Python 1.6.1 is essentially the same as Python 1.6, with a few mino

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-07 Thread Florian Weimer
Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's probably better to check if you're unsure rather than speculate or > guess. From the 2.1.1 LICENCE file: > > Python 1.6.1 is essentially the same as Python 1.6, with a few minor > bug fixes, and with a different license that enables late

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-06 Thread Neil Schemenauer
or guess. From the 2.1.1 LICENCE file: Python 1.6.1 is essentially the same as Python 1.6, with a few minor bug fixes, and with a different license that enables later versions to be GPL-compatible. Python 2.1 is a derivative work of Python 1.6.1, as well as of Python 2.0. Cheers, Neil

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-06 Thread dman
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:05:29PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: | Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit | | Please Cc: me, because I am not on the list. | | > python-ecasound | | I have been looking at python 2.1, and python2.1 debian/copyright file tells | me that i

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-06 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > I have been looking at python 2.1, and python2.1 debian/copyright file tells > me that it is "not GPL compatible". > > Is it still so? No. Python 2.1 is derived from 1.6.1 and _is_ GPL compatible. According to some laywers Python 2.0 is not GP

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-06 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit Please Cc: me, because I am not on the list. > python-ecasound I have been looking at python 2.1, and python2.1 debian/copyright file tells me that it is "not GPL compatible". Is it still so? regards, j

Re: Python-2.1 becoming Debian's default Python version

2001-11-05 Thread Tommi Virtanen
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You get this mail, because you are the maintainer of packages probably > affected by the change of the Python version. Followups and replies, > which could be of interest for all "Python packagers", should be sent to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your packages ar

Re: Python 2.1 crypto

2001-10-20 Thread Harry Henry Gebel
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 03:53:19PM +1300, Carey Evans wrote: > I notice that python2.1-base depends on libssl0.9.6. I haven't been > following the developments in Debian's crypto policy, but doesn't this > mean that python2.1-base should have been uploaded to non-US? > > -- >Carey Evans

Re: Python 2.1 crypto

2001-10-19 Thread Matthias Klose
> I notice that python2.1-base depends on libssl0.9.6. I haven't been > following the developments in Debian's crypto policy, but doesn't this > mean that python2.1-base should have been uploaded to non-US? python2.1-base 2.1.1-1.1 should not depend on crypt and ssl. I've made a python2.1-ssl pac

Python 2.1 crypto

2001-10-19 Thread Carey Evans
I notice that python2.1-base depends on libssl0.9.6. I haven't been following the developments in Debian's crypto policy, but doesn't this mean that python2.1-base should have been uploaded to non-US? -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ "Ha ha!

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Sass
On 4 Sep 2001, David Maslen wrote: > Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How does that sound ? > > I think it sounds like an awful lot of work. I still don't really > understand why we keep python1.5, but presumably there are some good > reasons, and I trust the debian team to have thr

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-04 Thread Jérôme Marant
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm still alive, I'm not lost ;-) You're not dead, which is the most important ;-) > And that's the problem where I was stuck. > > The dependencies of the current experimental python1.5 packages aren't > good enough to allow an easy upgrade from

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-04 Thread Carey Evans
c. That would remove the need for > versioned dependencies. I don't believe Python 2.0 is needed. I definitely support getting new Python 2.1 packages into the archive by whatever means necessary. AFAICS, for "apt-get dist-upgrade" to work, it should only be necessary for new

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-04 Thread David Maslen
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How does that sound ? I think it sounds like an awful lot of work. I still don't really understand why we keep python1.5, but presumably there are some good reasons, and I trust the debian team to have thrashed that out by now. You mentioned emacs, w

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-04 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
* Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010904 11:18]: > Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... > > in June (2.1) and July (2.1.1). Gregor (the python-1.5 and python-2.0 > > maintainer) has put experimental packages at > > http://people.debian.org/~flight/python and was asking for help >

Re: Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-04 Thread Jérôme Marant
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > in June (2.1) and July (2.1.1). Gregor (the python-1.5 and python-2.0 > maintainer) has put experimental packages at > http://people.debian.org/~flight/python and was asking for help > regarding the packaging (20010801). Jérôme Marant answered (2001

Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-03 Thread Matthias Klose
As David Maslen pointed out in http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2001/debian-python-200109/msg0.html Debian doesn't have yet python-2.1 in it's distro, although released in June (2.1) and July (2.1.1). Gregor (the python-1.5 and python-2.0 maintainer) has put experimental packag

Python 2.1

2001-09-02 Thread David Maslen
I've read through archives on this in the past, feel free to suggest other URL's if this is a discussed to death topic, but; Python 2.1 in now GPL compatable right? I saw some 2.1 packages in one of the debian developers home directories. They aren't release though, and that

Re: Python policy (was Re: Experimental Python 2.1 packages, release plans)

2001-06-24 Thread Aquarius
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, 32 lines --] > > On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:34:35PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > >> Anyway, while I'm away, perhaps someone could start to audit the packages >> that depend on Python, and file bugs for all p

Python policy (was Re: Experimental Python 2.1 packages, release plans)

2001-06-23 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:34:35PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > Anyway, while I'm away, perhaps someone could start to audit the packages > that depend on Python, and file bugs for all packages that don't have a > correct, explicit versioned dependency on python-base like > > Depends: pytho

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-06-12 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 07:06:09PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> This is probably correct, but it is completely irrelevant in our case. >>> Some parts of Python 2.1 are still covered by the GPL-incompatible >&g

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-06-03 Thread Florian Weimer
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is probably correct, but it is completely irrelevant in our case. > > Some parts of Python 2.1 are still covered by the GPL-incompatible > > CNRI license, so Python 2.1 as a whole is not GPL compatible. > >

Experimental Python 2.1 packages, release plans

2001-05-24 Thread Matthias Klose
Gregor Hoffleit writes: > I have uploaded experimental Python 2.1 packages. Grab them at > > http://people.debian.org/~flight/python2/ thanks! > Now the problems start if neither 2.0.1 nor 2.1.1 would be ready in time. If > it's obious early that the won't b

Experimental Python 2.1 packages, release plans

2001-05-24 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
I have uploaded experimental Python 2.1 packages. Grab them at http://people.debian.org/~flight/python2/ The packages are completely untested. I had to re-implement the building of the shared library (just finished), the remainder of the packages is mostly unchanged. In a few hours, I will

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-24 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 01:02:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I talked to RMS, Eben Moglen and GvR. The bad news: According to RMS+Moglen, > > the license used in Python 2.1 still is not yet compatible with the GPL. Th

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-24 Thread Florian Weimer
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Florian Weimer writes: > > This is probably correct, but it is completely irrelevant in our case. > > Some parts of Python 2.1 are still covered by the GPL-incompatible > > CNRI license, so Python 2.1 as a whole is not

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-24 Thread Matthias Klose
Florian Weimer writes: > This is probably correct, but it is completely irrelevant in our case. > Some parts of Python 2.1 are still covered by the GPL-incompatible > CNRI license, so Python 2.1 as a whole is not GPL compatible. which parts exactly?

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-24 Thread Florian Weimer
Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I talked to RMS, Eben Moglen and GvR. The bad news: According to RMS+Moglen, > the license used in Python 2.1 still is not yet compatible with the GPL. The > good news: The PSF decided to drop the choice of law clause. A modified >

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread The Dude
n be only one .pyc file around. Bastian Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > I talked to RMS, Eben Moglen and GvR. The bad news: According to RMS+Moglen, > the license used in Python 2.1 still is not yet compatible with the GPL. The > good news: The PSF decided to drop the choice of law clause. A mod

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
her bugs. I think the new (2.1.1) license was > blessed by rms... Sorry, I don't remember where I read this. Here's a quick update: I talked to RMS, Eben Moglen and GvR. The bad news: According to RMS+Moglen, the license used in Python 2.1 still is not yet compatible with the

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Gordon Sadler
cal/lib/python2.x) > > If you do not modify the code, all of your installed python > > modules/packages (in prefix=/usr) will not be found by > > /usr/local/bin/python. > > Which modules are you talking about? If you have pure Python > modules you can make them available

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On 21 May 2001 20:57:34 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > I really would like to see 2.1 in the next Debian release. I'd like to > ask Gregor (the maintainer) for an upload schedule, so that other > maintainers can rely on this to get their packages ready for the next > release as well. Are there sti

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Schemenauer
distributed with Python works fine when installed in /usr/local. > If you do not modify the code, all of your installed python > modules/packages (in prefix=/usr) will not be found by > /usr/local/bin/python. Which modules are you talking about? If you have pure Python modules you can mak

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:14:07PM -0700, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > - new packages names python2.1-foobar > > > > - same package names, but add versioned dependencies: python-foobar (>= 2.1) > > > > The latter will cause some incompatibilities until all python2 > > depen

Re: python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Matthias Klose wrote: > - new packages names python2.1-foobar > > - same package names, but add versioned dependencies: python-foobar (>= 2.1) > > The latter will cause some incompatibilities until all python2 > dependent packages are uploaded for 2.1. I strongly prefer the latter. If people wa

python-2.1 for unstable?

2001-05-21 Thread Matthias Klose
ok, python-2.1. was released some time ago. When and how will it appear in unstable? IMO it doesn't make sense to support python2.0 AND python2.1 in unstable. Therefore I propose to drop 2.0 in unstable and upload 2.1. There seem to be two ways how this can be done: - new packages

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-05-07 Thread Florian Weimer
lict of law provisions. -Notwithstanding the foregoing, with regard to derivative works based -on Python 2.1 that incorporate non-separable material that was -previously distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL), the -law of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall govern this License -Agree

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-05-07 Thread Neil Schemenauer
atible python 2.x in > > woody. > > Actually, it'd be nice just to have Python 2.1 in woody before the > freeze, whether or not it's GPL compatible. Or even get more Python > 1.5 packages built for Python 2.0 as well. Guido has recently checked in a license change that makes

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-05-07 Thread Carey Evans
;d be nice just to have Python 2.1 in woody before the freeze, whether or not it's GPL compatible. Or even get more Python 1.5 packages built for Python 2.0 as well. Is there anything I can do myself to help with the Debian Python packages? -- Carey Evans http://hom

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-05-06 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On 18 Apr 2001 13:10:44 +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:33:45PM +0200, Vasko Miroslav wrote: > > as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 > > in Debian, I think. > > > > it looks like 2.1 has GPL-compatible lice

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread David M. Cooke
ython -W ignore Scope.py > > (I created a file called Scope.py with that code in it) > A quick examination of the package lists show ~39 'python-*' packages that don't have equivalent 'python2-*' packages. There are about ~100 packages tha

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:17:40PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: | Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | [Python warning messages] | | > Could you mail an example of such a message ? | | y = None | def fun(): | y = None | def bar(): | y | bar() | | fun() | | result

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread Florian Weimer
#x27;y' as global in nested scope 'bar' def fun(): There are probably other kinds of warnings; PyErr_Warn is called in a number of places. Python 2.1 provides a mechanism to switch off warnings (the 'warnings' module, don't ask me about details :-/), but by default, they are printed to stderr.

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
ere are the same technical issues with Python 2.1 > > | > as with Python 2.0. > > | > > | Python 2.1 seems to print some diagnostic messages during run-time; > > | this might affect scripts which are invoked in cron jobs. > > > > Are you sure they aren'

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread Florian Weimer
D-Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:25:52PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > | Steve Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | > Licenses aside, there are the same technical issues with Python 2.1 > | > as with Python 2.0. > |

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-19 Thread Carey Evans
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > last I checked it only helped derivatives of python, not python itself. AIUI, the point is that Python 2.1 is a derivative of CNRI Python 1.6.1. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:25:52PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: | Steve Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > Licenses aside, there are the same technical issues with Python 2.1 | > as with Python 2.0. | | Python 2.1 seems to print some diagnostic messages during run-time;

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Florian Weimer
Steve Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Licenses aside, there are the same technical issues with Python 2.1 > as with Python 2.0. Python 2.1 seems to print some diagnostic messages during run-time; this might affect scripts which are invoked in cron jobs.

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:26:00AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 18-Apr-2001 Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:33:45PM +0200, Vasko Miroslav wrote: > >> as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 > >>

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 18-Apr-2001 Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:33:45PM +0200, Vasko Miroslav wrote: >> as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 >> in Debian, I think. >> >> it looks like 2.1 has GPL-compatible license (it has,

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Steve Purcell
Vasko Miroslav wrote: > as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 > in Debian, I think. > [snip] > and code-breakage features like nested scopes are disabled by default. Licenses aside, there are the same technical issues with Python 2.1 as with Python 2.0

Re: Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:33:45PM +0200, Vasko Miroslav wrote: > as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 > in Debian, I think. > > it looks like 2.1 has GPL-compatible license (it has, in fact, three > licenses) Thanks for pointing out the changes in

Python 2.1 out

2001-04-18 Thread Vasko Miroslav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! as Python 2.1 is out, there is no need to keep Python2 and Python152 in Debian, I think. it looks like 2.1 has GPL-compatible license (it has, in fact, three licenses) and code-breakage features like nested scopes are disabled by default. am

Python 2.1 packages?

2001-04-17 Thread Leeuw van der, Tim
Hello, With the release of Python 2.1 and legal changes, will we soon be seeing officially packaged Python 2.1 packages in unstable? And if so, how will they relate to the existing Python packages? Will they replace the Python 2.0 packages? Will they be compiled with readline and gdbm support