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It's scheduled to be removed from unstable, but ftpmasters are way behind
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The maintainer apparently built it against an obsolete version of mysql, on
i386 only. It needs a rebuild to sync architectures and make dbmail-mysql
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Steve Langasek wrote:
>With the conclusion of GR 2006-007[1], we now have a clear statement from the
>Debian developers that it is acceptable to release etch with firmware that
>does not meet our usual requirements for inclusion in main, subject to three
>principal conditions:
>
> 1. the freedom o
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO.
>
> Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention that
> you're not a lawyer.
Yes, I'm not a lawy
ituation, it would be best to have a statement from
> debian-legal to back those claims (or to claim i am wrong in the above).
>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
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> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
>
> [1] -
>
[http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing#head-bf5edfa54af87d70d2f39f434703848b55569eef
> [2] -
>
[http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing#head
Sven Luther wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:25:15AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> At a minumum, the patch for tg3 exists and is fully
>> functional: check with [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the version against
er, that's @recycle.lbl.gov
I'm having him send me a co
recursive
dependency disease. Is this slowing the transition down? :-/
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Once the version of BOINC currently in testing is removed from testing, you
can remove the removal hint... the RC bug is fixed in unstable (but requires
python-defaults and wxwidgets2.6 to go in first).
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These all have no reverse depends, and the bugs have been open for over a year
(though
not at RC severity for the whole time, necessarily)
# 160579
remove slash/2.2.6-7
# 196512
remove topal/0.7.13.6-1
# 230947
remove mcvs/1.0.13-12
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# This should serve as a collection of permanent hints
# to keep unsupported kernel packages out of etch.
# I don't know if these are all 'ready to go' yet, but
# eventually they'll all be desirable.
# These m68k packages are unbuildable in testing
# because kernel-source-2.2.25 is not in testing
_5052 blobs arrived in 2.6.10 in January 2005.
So there are clearly *some* new blobs arriving upstream.
The starfire blob is a really sad case of incompetence.
The 2.4 driver states that the firmware is nondistributable, and not
included. The 2.6 driver includes binary-only firmware, probably du
ee udebs.
So the design of a plausible kernel upload schedule is primarily dependent
on non-free udeb support. Anyone know what the ETA for that is?
> but for extreme security issues affecting the
> installation process, like remote root exploits. All other issues will
> be addressed as
x27;t see any reason why
not. Maybe someone else on -release can figure out how to get the new
version in.
Perhaps just a simple hint like
easy skkdic/20060813-1
will do the trick? In any case, the removal hint for skkdic (which exists
so that freecdb can be removed) should be unneeded if w
prefer the BTS option because it's more permanent, harder to ignore, and
better at holding patches and whatnot.
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>
>>What can be done about this?
>Accept that most people do not consider this a problem?
First of all, this is false. Most Debian developers agree with me. You
think not? Prove it by proposing a GR.
ile
'serious' bugs against each kernel package for each piece of firmware, which
might
at least make *someone* pay *some* attention.
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it's a good
idea to request removal of all these packages, the bug could be expanded in
scope to
remove all the kernel-*-2.2.25-* packages from unstable.
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This is actually rather good. The uninstallability count in 'testing'
on i386 is down to the lowest count I've ever seen.
Unfortunately, it's not perfect because totem is uninstallable
You probably don't actually want to do this, but if you feel like it,
this would fix that.
urgent popt/1.10
# Clean up leftovers from the X11R7 transition.
#Libice breaks xfwp, which isn't in unstable and comes from the old
#xorg-x11 package, which is going away.
force-hint libice/1:1.0.0-3
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# 'depends' instead of 'recommends'.
easy zeroc-ice/3.0.1-4 zeroc-ice-python/3.0.1-3 zeroc-ice-php/3.0.1-1
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remove gr-usrp/0.6-1
# 346233
remove guile-gnome-platform/2.7.99-4
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>There seem to be 2 packages build depending on gcc-2.95: silo and
>kernel-image-2.4.27-m68k
OK, scratch that then. I haven't been checking reverse build-deps because
it's a huge pain in the neck and I can never remember how to do it.
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# 349675
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# 362533
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# 358460, 358466
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# 340609
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libetpan
dspam
libdb4.2-ruby -- only two reverse depends: rbot and gonzui
chise-base
apr-util1.0
libapache2-mod-xmlrpc2
libapache2-mod-jk
kpsk
kolab-cyrus-imapd
jigdo
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hpsockd
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should look into this and consider removing the old ARM binaries for gcj and its
dependents from 'testing' if it's not easy to solve.
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Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Package: emacs21 (optional; Rob Browning) [emacs21/21.4a-3 ; =] [add/edit
> comment]
> 207932 [ ] [NONFREE-DOC:UNMODIFIABLE] emacs21: Includes non-free
> documents
>
> These are not FDL documents, they're just plain unmodifiable docu
do you think should be done about it in unstable? Forcible orphaning?
Removal from unstable (requesting that gibraltar-bootsupport find an
alternative)?
What? (note that xdelta2 is already gone).
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bug in most cases):
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mozilla-firefox
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povray-3.5 (non-free)
rar (non-free)
rig
snes9express
stella
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This appears to be a matter of the maintainer not paying attention, because
the non-free logo has been removed from the binary. NMU?
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They need to go in together for the C++ allocator transition.
easy zipios++/0.1.5.9+cvs.2004.02.07-3.3 enigma/0.92.3-1
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changing the hint as follows:
force tetex-base/3.0-13
hint tetex-base/3.0-13 tetex-bin/3.0-13
The linkage isn't real, and this should hopefully convince the testing scripts
*not* to add new hevea (or latex.service, etc.) to the tetex-base hint.
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It has a very troublesome RC bug (#147187) which appears to have had
no progress in over three years. It doesn't look straightforward to track
down or solve, either.
Revdeps in testing:
* gibraltar-bootsupport from gibraltar-bootcd source
* ttf-arphic-uming
* ttf-arphic-ukai
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>licenced modules. If we don't want to do that, the most honest way to
>handle it is to get another GR out the door,explaining that this is not
>easily possible or convenient at this time, and asking for an explicit
>exception for kernel firmware. I would second such a GR.
Kyle McMartin wrote:
> The question is: when you remove the firmware from the driver, and all
> it is, is a file sitting in /lib/firmware/; and it's contents are just
> non-executable hex,
Sorry, it is executable. For instance, the tg3 code is simply MIPS binary
which can be disassembled with bin
Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060111 12:57]:
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:13:27PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>> > how can you consider it as non-program. It is indeed composed of
>> > machine code destined to run on the controller of the device the driver
>> > is writ
Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:13:27PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>> how can you consider it as non-program. It is indeed composed of machine
>> code destined to run on the controller of the device the driver is
>> written for.
>
> This is incorrect. I know firmware[tm] blobs wh
Sven Luther wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am cross posting to debian-release and debian-boot, since this will
> affect them too.
> Basically, the situation is like this :
>
> 1) there where drivers under implicit GPL licence with binary only
> firmware. Since there was no explicit licence for thi
To catch up with the new soname for libsdl-gfx.
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gpsim, gpsim-dev, gpsim-lcd, and gpsim-logic should be requeued on
all architectures to pick up the new version of gtk+extra.
When that's done I believe a hint is needed:
hint gtk+extra/1.0.0-1
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Long-standing RC bugs 259324, 344981 (missing dependencies);
maintainer appears to be out to lunch and nobody else appears to
care enough to NMU. Unchanged since sarge.
remove tkrat/1:2.1.4-2
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It's just waiting for hppa, like the rest of KDE. :-P
force kdeaddons/4:3.4.3-1
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e track of which packages have migrated to
testing, and it's not clear whether all the bug reports were closed with
proper version tracking.
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Such as http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/12/msg00060.html
The c2a transition seems to be under control. A message about the
state of toolchain transitions in unstable follows under separate cover.
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And they're all separate "roots" of the tree, none depending on
any other. So the solo hint for wfmath is unlikely to work. Try
hint wfmath/0.3.4-4 atlas-cpp/0.5.98-3 varconf/0.6.3-2
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# pick up binNMUs of sidplay and xmms-sid
hint sidplay-libs/2.1.1-3.1
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easy omniorb4/4.0.6-2 python-omniorb2/2.6-2
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easy wnn6-sdk/1.0.0-13 kinput2/3.1-6
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easy trustedqsl/1.11-4 tqsllib/2.0-4
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hint mm/1.4.0-1
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hint chasen/2.3.3-6.2
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an increase, in order for
it to actually work. :-P Time to consider disqualifying hppa as a release
architecture, I guess.
remove guarddog/2.4.0-2
remove kwave/0.7.4-1
remove cameleon/1.3-7 meta-ocaml/3.08.0-2
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Looks like rquantlib needs a rebuild on hppa to pick up the c2a version of
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I don't know how much we care about that...
cvm
mailfront
are in testing but Build-Depend on freecdb which isn't.
The maintainer does not intend to migrate to tinycdb and is
instead adopting freecdb. But it's unclear how long it will
take for that to be worked out.
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tobmp/alpha/3.0-5+b1 sfftobmp/powerpc/3.0-5+b1
sfftobmp/hppa/3.0-5+b1 sfftobmp/ia64/3.0-5+b1 sfftobmp/mips/3.0-5+b1
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So when is the alpha buildd expected to be back up and running after its
cross-country trip?
Plus or minus a day would be fine.
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unt on HPPA, no question. Maybe you should consider
admitting that to britney. :-P
The main remaining tangler is abiword, but you seem to be on top of that;
the latest readline looks like it will work, and ocaml just needs an alpha
build.
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So the hint needs to be updated in order to give output. :-(
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hints for
this situation with binNMUs floating around. Perhaps you should just go
ahead and force-hint the thing, and let them catch up on ia64 later.
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unusable. wmsetimon and tkseti probably have the same
problem, but I haven't looked to see whether they're 'BOINCified' yet.
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< 0.9.9 and had different package
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Thanks for the added info!
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:50:50AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> It's a bit soon to declare that there's "no progress" on the hppa bugs, I
> think; AFAIK this bug *was* fixed once (KDE packages were buildin
there is a -dev package.
Should be queued for rebuild to fix static library
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Joey Hess wrote
tetex-bin
too young
blocked by gcc-2.0
^^^
Wow, really? ;-)
I guess that shows that this is a manually generated list :-)
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I'm not sure about unicon; is it a library exporting a C++ interface
or not? :-P If not, then chinput and unicon can be added to the list.
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You'll have to add
urgent gcj-4.0/4.0.2-5j2
atop the hint.
It likely makes more sense to wait on the hinting until a new version of
gcj is pulled from upstream HEAD, since the RC bug is fixed there already.
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The C++ transition is very nearly complete for libraries, so I'm hoping
we can finish off the last four.
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version of atlas-cpp. Should wait for a fixed source version of atlas-cpp.
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Eris built against the busted version of libwfmath.
It needs to be requeued everywhere.
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m for rebuilding on m68k,
since they'd end up linked to the old version of libstdc++ on m68k.
Until the transitioned library built.
Am I right about that?
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libtunepimp
libofx
tulip
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I haven't even tried to think about the packages which need a rebuild to
pick up the c2a dependencies. Perhaps the best way to do that is with
a page like http://people.debian.org/~mfurr/gxx/uninstallable.html.
Unfortunately that won't catch these; we
cs etc. from all packages
This doesn't appear to really be a release blocker, but perhaps should be:
* releaseable freetype in unstable (blocks e.g. openoffice.org)
(also blocks new gcc-4.0 in testing via libcairo!)
This should be solvable by either a reversionary upload or a proper
transition
Matthias Klose wrote:
> about 150. attached is a list of source packages, which either define
> mt_alloc symbols or reference them. libraries depending on kdelibs do
> not have to be renamed (about 30/40).
Um, out of curiosity, why don't they? They didn't need to be renamed
for 'c2' because KDE ha
I guess a plan, as yet undevised, will be needed for that. Maybe
'c2a' libraries. :-P
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>You obviously know where the upstream bug systems are;
>wouldn't it be more helpful to take the initiative and forward thesebug
>reports yourself?
Actually, it probably wouldn't.
The first request upstream will make is to test on an stock version of
GCC, rather than Debian GCC. The upstream bu
(regarding python2.1-libplot and python2.2-libplot)
>Both are apparently packages for obsolete versions of python, with no
>reverse dependencies. Why don't we push for their removal instead?
Quite right. I hadn't checked reverse dependencies this time. What's
the best way to do this; ask the m
>slune
>41 days old
>blocked by soya
new soya breaks old osgal;
new osgcal depends on new blender and new gcc-4.0;
new blender is buggier than old blender;
new gcc-4.0 is waiting for new binutils and new glibc.
So, yeah, glibc and binutils fun.
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th libplot-perl, although
some arches (arm, m68k, s390, sparc) haven't uploaded yet, so I'm not
totally sure.
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So some easy hints showed up now that the giant clog cleared.
# attal missing m68k build
easy attal/0.9.2-1.1 attal-themes-medieval/0.9.2-1
# ipsvd missing arm build
easy matrixssl/1.7.1-2 ipsvd/0.11.1-1
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I've been waiting for the latest updates to etch to hit the mirrors,
but I can't figure out when they'll get there. Is the time of the mirror
pulse documented anywhere for the benefit of the obsessive?
Incidentally, mirror.debian.org/status.html is dead.
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Many kudos for managing the KDE and other transitions so smoothly.
This went significantly quicker than the transitions for sarge and
has resulted in less breakage in testing.
Thanks for the good work everyone :-)
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> It is mozilla-locale-lt or mozilla-locale-it?
> In report I see -lt, but bug filled for -it?
It's -lt, Joey reassigned it.
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Steve Langasek wrote:
> In any case, please see
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/~vorlon/KDE-missing-bysource.txt for a
> separate analysis.
With reference to that :-), please note the following; after going through
that and the hints file these are the only notable omissions I found (in
rough order
27;s really nothing I can do
except to suggest that the maintainers upload an older version of binutils
(which I doubt they'll want to do), and ask people to consider contacting GCC
upstream.
gcc-4_0-branch is actually relatively unstable, and it's probably not such a
great idea to keep
Alternately, remove libqt-perl/3.008-1.3
force xmms-kde/3.1-3
# force-hint xmms-kde/3.1-3
# -- i386 (ugh), powerpc, alpha, sparc (and unbuilt m68k)
# also too young
# Alternately, remove xmms-kde/3.1-1
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makes me very unhappy. We need to push KDE in NOW, before everything
gets clogged behind another toolchain change.
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#x27;s it. Of course, more uploads or builds may cause more to appear.
:-P
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sed before.
So it looks like a force would be effective and wouldn't break too much.
But perhaps it would be better to wait 2 days for the leaf packages, and see
how perl is doing then, before considering it.
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