Shall Intel or AMD also now be tainted, if his computer or
server use either of their CPU's?
Are we to boycott ATI or Nvidia for allowing him to use a video
card created by them?
If his mouse is powered by the serial port which is a patent
owned by Microsoft, does it mean Microsoft can require
Shall Intel or AMD also now be tainted, if his computer or
server use either of their CPU's?
Are we to boycott ATI or Nvidia for allowing him to use a video
card created by them?
If his mouse is powered by the serial port which is a patent
owned by Microsoft, does it mean Microsoft can require
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:42:08PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:
I think, keeping politics and extremist declarations outside Debian
also means, that he/we should not declare such thoughts using official
debian mail-addresses. Using corporate addresses means assigning those
declarations to debi
Hello all!
I've just received over 20 mails with Walther in subject. No one from
them is related to debian security issues. Is is OK ?
I'm receving daily hundreds of mails, and I like to have them sorted by
real subject.
best regards
Jarek
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
> of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
> outside of Debian would be sufficient.
I do strongly disagree with his personal thoughts, but I must grant
him the right t
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:42:08PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:
I think, keeping politics and extremist declarations outside Debian
also means, that he/we should not declare such thoughts using official
debian mail-addresses. Using corporate addresses means assigning those
declarations to debian
Hello all!
I've just received over 20 mails with Walther in subject. No one from
them is related to debian security issues. Is is OK ?
I'm receving daily hundreds of mails, and I like to have them sorted by
real subject.
best regards
Jarek
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
> of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
> outside of Debian would be sufficient.
I do strongly disagree with his personal thoughts, but I must grant
him the right t
>>as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
please continue the discussion in debial-politics.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:50:50PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
> upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
> thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
> sta
the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
statement ... freedom rhetoric and stand up for and make political decisio
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:44:54PM +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
> as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
> problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
--
``You know those mail clients: MS Outlook, mail(1),
Unfortunately, Any platform can be used in any regard. That in its self
doesn't mean that the developers or the vast majority of the user base
condones it. Be that as it may many of the people in the world will attempt
to use what ever means that they can to damage a competitor. But If anyone
askin
> Debian is useable by anyoen. Let's not go down that
> road or you'll have everyone trying to decide who is
> allowed to use what software for what purpose and since
> practically everyone hates *someone*, the whole endeavour
> dies.
This is not about personal dislike. It is about the dubious cl
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you intend to stop
from using it?
> by using debian he associates
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:26:47PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
Well dont come here. At the local restauraunt I sometimes go to the head
waiter wears an "Osama is my hero" T shirt. I think it is better to ask why
do they do what they do anyway.
I see. So when I do over the Internet what you j
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
Yes, it is. Our Debian Free Software Guidelines enforce a mandate of no
discrimination. Software included in Debian does not discriminate on
people based on their
Greetings,
> or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
What's the alternativ? Call the CIA or ths Spanish christian inquisition to
check everybodies political correctness?
Keep smiling
yanosz
I'm on the Debian security list to get Debian related security notifications
and info. Could you please take this discussion elsewhere?!
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Walther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:56 AM
> To: debian-security@lists.debi
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> > or is good code more important than this sort o
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
> by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
>
> On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200,
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
> of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
> outside of Debian would be sufficient.
A: Why is this on security?
B: I thought we had decided last time that Debian does
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:45:39PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
Just to mention: in some countries distributing racist material or
neglecting the holocaust can be punished by law. I do not know what
is the situation in British Columbia
In Communist Russia it was illegal to own a gun. What does
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outsi
> Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-02-25 16:42]:
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> > or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
>
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside of Debian. I
> think a severe warning to keep his politics out
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
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>>as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
please continue the discussion in debial-politics.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:50:50PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
> upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
> thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
> sta
the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
statement ... freedom rhetoric and stand up for and make political decisio
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:44:54PM +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
> as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
> problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
--
``You know those mail clients: MS Outlook, mail(1),
Unfortunately, Any platform can be used in any regard. That in its self
doesn't mean that the developers or the vast majority of the user base
condones it. Be that as it may many of the people in the world will attempt
to use what ever means that they can to damage a competitor. But If anyone
askin
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Subject: Please kick and ban Jonathan Walther for racism, was: Re: [ox-en]
Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 16:20
From: Tacincala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://reactor -core.org/discrimination/
And
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Subject: Re: [ox-en] Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:54
From: Martin Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tacincala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:25, Tacincala wrote:
> http://reactor-core.org/discriminati
> Debian is useable by anyoen. Let's not go down that
> road or you'll have everyone trying to decide who is
> allowed to use what software for what purpose and since
> practically everyone hates *someone*, the whole endeavour
> dies.
This is not about personal dislike. It is about the dubious cl
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you intend to stop
from using it?
> by using debian he associates
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:26:47PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
Well dont come here. At the local restauraunt I sometimes go to the head
waiter wears an "Osama is my hero" T shirt. I think it is better to ask why
do they do what they do anyway.
I see. So when I do over the Internet what you just
Hi Jonathan,
J Walther wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 11:02:13AM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
3. Explain this: http://r eactor-core.org/secret/
It is my private mental training gym.
It's public ?
What are you training to do with your mind ?
J Walther wrote:
I got tired of
never bein
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
Yes, it is. Our Debian Free Software Guidelines enforce a mandate of no
discrimination. Software included in Debian does not discriminate on
people based on their
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:45:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:19:48PM -0500, John Keimel wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:11:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I've been asked to place a sniffer on a network that handles HIPPA data,
> > > and watch for
Greetings,
> or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
What's the alternativ? Call the CIA or ths Spanish christian inquisition to
check everybodies political correctness?
Keep smiling
yanosz
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I'm on the Debian security list to get Debian related security notifications
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Walther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subjec
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> > or is good code more important than this sort o
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
> by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
>
> On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200,
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
> of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
> outside of Debian would be sufficient.
A: Why is this on security?
B: I thought we had decided last time that Debian does
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:45:39PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
Just to mention: in some countries distributing racist material or
neglecting the holocaust can be punished by law. I do not know what
is the situation in British Columbia
In Communist Russia it was illegal to own a gun. What does tha
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of
> Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-02-25 16:42]:
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> > or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
>
> Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside of Debian. I
> think a severe warning to keep his politics out
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
> or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
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Subject: Please kick and ban Jonathan Walther for racism, was: Re: [ox-en]
Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 16:20
From: Tacincala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://reactor -core.org/discrimination/
And
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Subject: Re: [ox-en] Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:54
From: Martin Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tacincala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:25, Tacincala wrote:
> http://reactor-core.org/discriminati
Hi Jonathan,
J Walther wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 11:02:13AM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
3. Explain this: http://r eactor-core.org/secret/
It is my private mental training gym.
It's public ?
What are you training to do with your mind ?
J Walther wrote:
I got tired of
never being able t
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:45:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:19:48PM -0500, John Keimel wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:11:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I've been asked to place a sniffer on a network that handles HIPPA data,
> > > and watch for
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For all of us non native speakers of english and living outside the
USA, here's some info on the acronyms to follow the thread:
http://www.safetyfile.com/page/S/CTGY/HIPPA
http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=cya
Thanks Jose for that .. :)
A
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For all of us non native speakers of english and living outside the
USA, here's some info on the acronyms to follow the thread:
http://www.safetyfile.com/page/S/CTGY/HIPPA
http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=cya
Thanks Jose for that .. :)
And ..
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