Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the network? (That would make sense to ME anyway.) I installed solely over ftp/http from central debian-servers and this is what the aforementioned line looks like with me: #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:21:48PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the network? (That | would make sense to ME anyway.) How do you know whether I installed from a local mirror (which I happen to have, even though my connection to

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jacob Meuser | On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:39:15AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | * Ethan Benson | | Not everyone has a permanent internet connection.. It should probably | ask whether you want to have it in there. | | | I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the network? (That would make sense to ME anyway.) I installed solely over ftp/http from central debian-servers and this is what the aforementioned line looks like with me: #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:21:48PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the network? (That | would make sense to ME anyway.) How do you know whether I installed from a local mirror (which I happen to have, even though my connection to the

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free | in /etc/apt/sources.list | That was in there by default, I just uncommented it. (it was there in r0 too, | | it

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:39:15AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free | in /etc/apt/sources.list | That was in

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:30:35AM -0700, Hubert Chan wrote: On the other hand, OpenSSH was created by the OpenBSD people, who are famous for secure programming. And also for quick security fixes. They had a patch for sudo about 5 hours after the recent bug was discovered. It took a few

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Runar Bell
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:39:15AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free |

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:39:09AM +0100, Runar Bell wrote: Hi, and thanks to everybody for all the useful information I have received. :) One good thing about using SSH2.4 in stead of OpenSSH is that if someone installed an RSA key in my .ssh/authorized_keys file, it would be of no use :)

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread William R. Ward
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One reason why I did not install any security-updates to SSH1.1 is that on the web page of www.debian.org they say that there is a remote exploit in OpenSSH (DSA-027) but it is fixed in Debian 2.2 (potato) and that is the one I installed. I did not

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Runar Bell
Hi, and thanks to everybody for all the useful information I have received. :) One good thing about using SSH2.4 in stead of OpenSSH is that if someone installed an RSA key in my .ssh/authorized_keys file, it would be of no use :) Besides, I have heard that the SSH1.1 protocol is unsecure, and

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free | in /etc/apt/sources.list | That was in there by default, I just uncommented it. (it was there in r0 too, | | it

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:39:15AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free | in /etc/apt/sources.list | That was in

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:30:35AM -0700, Hubert Chan wrote: On the other hand, OpenSSH was created by the OpenBSD people, who are famous for secure programming. And also for quick security fixes. They had a patch for sudo about 5 hours after the recent bug was discovered. It took a few

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Runar Bell
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:39:15AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Ethan Benson | On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: | | My potatos have | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free | in

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 06:08 + 3/2/2001, Jacob Meuser wrote: I believe it becomes uncommented if one installs over the network? (That would make sense to ME anyway.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] It didn't on my network install. I did an FTP install of PowerPC Debian (Potato). I had to uncomment the security line

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:39:09AM +0100, Runar Bell wrote: Hi, and thanks to everybody for all the useful information I have received. :) One good thing about using SSH2.4 in stead of OpenSSH is that if someone installed an RSA key in my .ssh/authorized_keys file, it would be of no use :)

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-02 Thread William R. Ward
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One reason why I did not install any security-updates to SSH1.1 is that on the web page of www.debian.org they say that there is a remote exploit in OpenSSH (DSA-027) but it is fixed in Debian 2.2 (potato) and that is the one I installed. I did not

SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Runar Bell
Hi, I installed potato three weeks ago, only adding debian-packages with dselect and apt-get. I didn't add much either. The problem was that: 1) I noticed that somebody had logged in to my computer using my username. I can't see how they could have discovered my password (7 letters, containing

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:32:19AM +0100, Runar Bell wrote: 2) When inspecting /var/log/messages I noticed quite a lot of attempts to send a buffer overflow (or something like that) on the port running rcp.statd. Is there some security hole there I am not aware of? I have removed portmap

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Richard
Hi, On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Runar Bell wrote: Hi, I installed potato three weeks ago, only adding debian-packages with dselect and apt-get. I didn't add much either. The problem was that: Did you put security.debian.org in /etc/apt/sources.list ? 1) I noticed that somebody had logged in

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:51:32PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: the first thing you should add to a newly installed debian system is: ## security updates deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Maarten Vink
Jacob Meuser wrote: My potatos have deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list That was in there by default, I just uncommented it. (it was there in r0 too, by the way). I never thought about it, but that doesn't cover the non-US

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: My potatos have deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list That was in there by default, I just uncommented it. (it was there in r0 too, it was there but commented out by

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Hans Spaans
On Thursday 01 March 2001 14:08, Maarten Vink wrote: Yes it does, security.debian.org is located somewhere outside the US and also carries non-US updates. security.debian.org is located in The Netherlands at the Rijks Universiteit Leiden to be correctly. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Richard" == Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Use Openssh, opensource leeds to more secure systems and I Richard belive it has less security bug's. (just keep updated) Not true. Open source has the *potential* to be more secure (due to

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Runar Bell
Hi, and thanks to everybody for all the useful information I have received. :) One good thing about using SSH2.4 in stead of OpenSSH is that if someone installed an RSA key in my .ssh/authorized_keys file, it would be of no use :) Besides, I have heard that the SSH1.1 protocol is unsecure, and

SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Runar Bell
Hi, I installed potato three weeks ago, only adding debian-packages with dselect and apt-get. I didn't add much either. The problem was that: 1) I noticed that somebody had logged in to my computer using my username. I can't see how they could have discovered my password (7 letters, containing

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:32:19AM +0100, Runar Bell wrote: 2) When inspecting /var/log/messages I noticed quite a lot of attempts to send a buffer overflow (or something like that) on the port running rcp.statd. Is there some security hole there I am not aware of? I have removed portmap

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Richard
Hi, On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Runar Bell wrote: Hi, I installed potato three weeks ago, only adding debian-packages with dselect and apt-get. I didn't add much either. The problem was that: Did you put security.debian.org in /etc/apt/sources.list ? 1) I noticed that somebody had logged in to

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:51:32PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: the first thing you should add to a newly installed debian system is: ## security updates deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:07:43AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: My potatos have deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list That was in there by default, I just uncommented it. (it was there in r0 too, it was there but commented out by

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Hans Spaans
On Thursday 01 March 2001 14:08, Maarten Vink wrote: Yes it does, security.debian.org is located somewhere outside the US and also carries non-US updates. security.debian.org is located in The Netherlands at the Rijks Universiteit Leiden to be correctly. Hans

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard == Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Use Openssh, opensource leeds to more secure systems and I Richard belive it has less security bug's. (just keep updated) Not true. Open source has the *potential* to be more secure (due to

Re: SSH with potato, not very secure?

2001-03-01 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:32:19AM +0100, Runar Bell wrote: 1) I noticed that somebody had logged in to my computer using my username. I can't see how they could have discovered my password (7 letters, snip 2) When inspecting /var/log/messages I noticed quite a lot of attempts to send a