Hi,
Time passed...
Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While attending Debconf8, I've met with Barton George, Sun's group
> manager for free and open source software. He pointed out the new
> documentation resource Sun have set up to assist open source
> developers in supporting Sun ha
Hi,
Jim Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The current Xorg and ATI driver appear to not work when used with
>> `linux-image-2.6.25-2-sparc64' on an Ultra 5:
>>
>> X.Org X Server 1.4.2
>>
Hi,
The current Xorg and ATI driver appear to not work when used with
`linux-image-2.6.25-2-sparc64' on an Ultra 5:
X.Org X Server 1.4.2
Release Date: 11 June 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-2)
Current Operating System: Li
Hi,
BERTRAND Joël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you try HyperSPARC, please test without and with SMP.
Do you expect it to work at all, even UP? :-)
I'm asking because it used to be considered a lost cause but I did not
follow development recently.
Thanks,
Ludovic.
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Hi Joël,
BERTRAND Joël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have built a 2.6.24.2 linux kernel on my SS20 (dual SM71)
> and it is stable in SMP configuration with HIGHMEM. I haven't tested
> with HyperSPARC. Has anyone any information about HyperSPARC support ?
> I shall test, but if someone has
Hi Joël,
BERTRAND Joël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have ;-) But you have to verify that your card is PCI 2.1
> compliant, not 2.2.
Oh my, it's PCI 2.2, indeed (fortunately, it was very cheap, but
still...).
Thanks for the hint,
Ludovic.
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Hi,
I just bought a 4-port USB 2.0 controller with the intent to plug it in
the PCI bus of my Ultra 5. Unfortunately, once it's plugged in, the
machine doesn't even reach the OBP prompt and the screen remains off.
The controller is nameless (the card reads "CK-0001C", though), with a
VIA VT6212L
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> After upgrading my Ultra 5 to `linux-image-2.6.22-1-sparc64', I noticed
> that Xorg (ATI driver) would fail to run:
>
> X Window System Version 1.3.0
> Release Date: 19 April 2007
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Hi,
Emanuele Rocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello Ludovic,
>
> * Ludovic Courtès <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-07-30 15:55 +0200]:
>>Fatal server error:
>>xf86MapPciMem: Could not mmap PCI memory
>> [base=0x10,hostbase=0x10,size=2000] (
Hi,
After upgrading my Ultra 5 to `linux-image-2.6.22-1-sparc64', I noticed
that Xorg (ATI driver) would fail to run:
X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: Linux Debian
Current Operating System: L
Hi,
Ulrich Teichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What we've seen here is classic bitrot, IMHO. Of course, the main Linux
> development platform is x86 and quite a lot kernel developers only work
> on one platform. This has introduced bugs for all other ports (and will
> continue to do so), which
Hi,
Ulrich Teichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That's not quite true. Dave Miller is still collecting patches, Mark
> Fortescue, Krzysztof Helt and others are producing them. See the respective
> posts on [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just that there is no real maintainer
> for the port.
[...]
> Ca
Hi,
BERTRAND Joël <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe, but NetBSD kernel does not correctly work on sun4m/SMP,
> like Linux. Today, no one OS can be used on sun4m/SMP workstations,
> and I think that it will be easier to fix linux 2.6 sparc32 kernel
> than work on debian/xBSD sparc32 port.
Hi,
Maciej Jan Broniarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a few sparc32 machines and I can give access to them to any
> developer needing it.
>
> I think Debian/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a very good idea, but it depends on
> how many people would like to contribute.
Just to clarify: as with Debia
Hi,
Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 17:22:48 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's time to somehow re-spawn Debian GNU/kNetBSD since NetBSD is
>> apparently paying more attention to avoiding regressions than Linux
>>
Hi,
"Bruce O'Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With the note that this is getting quite far from debian-sparc's purpose in
> life :-) maybe after this note the conversation should move to the netbsd
> sparc or openbsd sparc lists.
Maybe it's time to somehow re-spawn Debian GNU/kNetBSD since N
Hi,
"Bruce O'Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As a result I've done some power measurements on them in order to find the
> lowest
> power system that will do what I need.
Interesting!
> SS20/Dual 100 hypersparc75watts
> SS20/180 Hypersparc 77watts
> SS20/Dual 55 hypersparc
Hi,
"Chris Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there anybody around that is successfully using Etch or Lenny on a
> sparcstation20? I have
> upgraded from Sarge to Etch, and I am getting all sorts of bad errors when I
> try to use dselect
> or apt-get.
Can you be more specific? It may b
Hi,
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The daily built images of the installer for sparc [1] have kernel 2.6.20.
> I don't know if the rewrite happened before or after that release, but it
> is somewhat more recent than the Etch kernel.
The rewrite dates back to April [0] while 2.6.20 was
Hi,
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Possibly this is covered by the errata for the Etch installer (esp module
> broken) [1].
>
> It is one of the many issues that contribute to the decision to drop
> support for sparc32...
>
> [1] http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/
E
Salut,
Eric Rapilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hello ! I have got an SGI indigo2, without any CDROM. Do you if it
> exist a debian version for this station, under the bianry version ?
> where could I download it ? thanks and cheers !!
SGi machines use MIPS processors, not SPARCs. See
http
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jordan Bettis) writes:
> Just a thought but if the SPARC32 system got dropped, would it be
> possible to roll it back to the last known good configuration and then
> archive that? I think there'd be value in having a working archived
> distro of the latest software (before
Hi,
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The problem is, and that has been mentioned before, that *there is no
> upstream maintainer* for sparc32. Unless some people step up and ensure
> that upstream issues _are_ fixed in a timely manner, sparc32 is
> effectively dead.
"Upstream" should r
Hi,
Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think it's time to put it to rest and improve sparc64 performance by
> turning on Ultrasparc-specific optimizations for our package builds.
Out of curiosity, is there a list of sparc64-specific optimizations
somewhere (or something close)?
Thanks
Hi,
Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now that we have released, we need to set our goals for the future. As
> you probably guessed from the subject, I am strongly in favor of
> dropping sparc32 support for lenny. There are multiple reasons for it,
> including
>
> * Nearly complete la
Hi,
(Note: I tried posting this message to `sparclinux' but Bogofilter at
vger.kernel.org is so zealous that all my attempts failed!)
The `sunqe' driver in `linux-image-2.6.18-4-sparc32' is broken. I.e.,
it loads fine, but then reports the following erroneous ethernet
addresses:
sunqe.c:v4.0
Hi,
Mark Morgan Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've not heard of one of these devices failing after only five years, 10+ is
> more common.
Agreed. At this moment, most sun4c machines have failed (e.g., SS2,
IPX, etc.) and sun4m machines (e.g., SS4, SS5, SS20) are only starting
to fail (FWI
Hi,
While upgrading from a 2.4 kernel to `linux-image-2.6.18-4-sparc32' on a
SPARCclassic, I noticed that the `esp' module is not included in the
initrd that gets generated (consequently, the new kernel hangs "waiting
for the root filesystem" upon reboot).
This is easily fixed by, e.g., adding `e
Hi,
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2) Is there a list of hardware which work or does not work?
Support for `sun4c' machines (e.g., SS2, SS1, IPC) was officially
dropped in Etch. I believe Sarge was already hardly installable on such
machines [0].
Support for SMP `sun4m' was dr
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> I have an Ultra 5 where I use the `snd-sun-cs4231' module. Some
> applications seem to work fine with it (e.g., "mpg321", "aplay -r 44100
> -f cd" with appropriate input) while others don't.
>
> Be
Hi,
I have an Ultra 5 where I use the `snd-sun-cs4231' module. Some
applications seem to work fine with it (e.g., "mpg321", "aplay -r 44100
-f cd" with appropriate input) while others don't.
Beep-media-player, for instance, would play the music faster, as though
it skipped one sample out of four
Hi Jurij,
5 days, one minute, 58 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 03:56:38PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > The proposed patch should have been part of Xorg 7.1 but that doesn't
> > seem to be the case. If no Xorg release occurs by the time
Hi,
6 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes, 17 seconds ago,
Martin Marques wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:40:43 +0200, Ludovic Courtès <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had reported some time ago problems running Xorg 7.0 on an Ultra 5 with
> > the ATI driver, including apparent f
Hi,
I had reported some time ago problems running Xorg 7.0 on an Ultra 5 with
the ATI driver, including apparent file system corruption problems,
kernel crashes, etc. [0]. I tried out Xorg 7.1 with the 2.6.18-1 kernel
package recently and noticed that nothing had changed. However, I
finally deci
Hi,
2 days, 13 hours, 42 minutes, 16 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> We have already dropped support for sun4c at some point, because it did
> not have the basic multiplication and division instruction implemented in
> hardware. Emulating them was pretty slow, so it was deemed unreasonable to
Hi,
Today, 11 hours, 12 minutes, 27 seconds ago, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> i got an ultra 5 that i recently upgraded from stable to testing, now X
> doesn't work anmore. i followed the instructions on the XorgOnSparc page
> of the wiki, everything went fine so far. if i do a startx, the screen
> goes
Hi,
Today, 10 hours, 34 minutes, 9 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> So it looks like it just opens the module file (descriptor 8) and reads
> the first 256 bytes of it. I have no clue why read could block on a normal
> file like that.
It's not that `read ()' blocks but rather that `strace' fa
Hi,
One day, 4 hours, 17 minutes, 33 seconds ago,
Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Also, is the ATI driver known to work on other platforms?
I sucessfully installed and used Xorg 7.0 with an ATI driver (from
Debian GNU/Linux) on a PPC today.
Besides, in case it can make sense to someone, here are
Hi,
Yesterday, 21 hours, 58 minutes, 15 seconds ago, Chris Newport wrote:
> FWIW there are 2 variants of Ultra5 video.
> Early models only had enough video RAM for 8 bit video, later ones were
> 24 bit capable.
[...]
> AFAIK all 270MHz models are 8 bit, but I am not sure about when the
> chang
Hi,
Today, 3 hours, 37 minutes, 28 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> The only thing I can suggest is to try building a kernel with a recent
> patch (attached, should be included in .17), which fixes some rarely
> occuring memory corruptions, sometimes resulting in busted dpkg databases.
I did
Hi,
Yesterday, 19 hours, 31 minutes, 37 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> Just to reconfirm: I've just reinstalled my Ultra5, updated it to the
> latest sid and installed xorg. The xorg.conf file it generates during
> installation is indeed broken, as it uses fbdev driver. The machine hangs
>
Hi,
2 days, 15 hours, 43 minutes, 47 seconds ago,
Martin Marques wrote:
> A couple of months ago I tried upgrading my XFree86 to Xorg On my U5 with
> that ATI video card. The result is that the whole workstation freezes, and I
> have to turn it off (reset boton doesn't work in this case). What
Hi,
(About broken Xorg 7.0 on an Ultra 5.)
34 days, 20 hours, 32 minutes, 16 seconds ago, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I should note that the above remark applied to 2.6.15, probably _before_
> running X. With 2.6.16-1 (from sid), I can observe the following funny
> thing:
>
>
Hi,
Today, 6 hours, 27 minutes, 39 seconds ago, Stuart Brady wrote:
> /bin/cat: /sys/block/sda/dev: No such file or directory
> Device /sys/block/sda/dev seems to be down.
> Debugging opportunity, type ^D to continue.
>
> This is with yaird 0.0.12-14. I'll try it again with initramfs when the
>
Today, one minute, 35 seconds ago, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I just grabbed another SS20 with a pair of ROSS RT626 HyperSPARCs [0].
Footnote [0] had nothing to do with this sentence, sorry...
Ludovic.
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Hi,
12 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes, 50 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> I've been poking the current sparc32 problems a bit, and managed to come
> up with a kernel which allowed me to dist-upgrade and install KDE (over
> 400 megs worth of packages) successfully on my SS20 machine. Basically,
Hi,
Today, 10 hours, 45 minutes, 19 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> I've been poking the current sparc32 problems a bit, and managed to come
> up with a kernel which allowed me to dist-upgrade and install KDE (over
> 400 megs worth of packages) successfully on my SS20 machine. Basically,
> I
Hi Jurij,
Today, one hour, 16 minutes, 32 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> Yes, this has been reported. Something is wrong with initramfs-tools on
> sparc32, so use yaird to generate initrds for now. The easiest way is to
> install yaird, and then remove initramfs-tools (at least one initramfs
Hi,
As I mentioned in a previous post (a long time ago...), I am currently
unable to boot from the packaged 2.6.16 UP kernel on a bi-SuperSPARC
SS20. Here's what happens: kernels boots fine, up to:
Begin: Mounting root file system... ...
Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ...
Done.
Begin:
Hi,
Today, 13 hours, 42 minutes, 29 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2006, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>
> >I should note that the above remark applied to 2.6.15, probably _before_
> >running X. With 2.6.16-1 (from sid), I can observe the following funny
> >th
Hi,
7 days, 28 minutes, 11 seconds ago, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > Hm, this file loads fine for me:
> >
> > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so
> > (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> > compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.2.0
&
Hi,
Today, 16 hours, 42 minutes, 43 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> I've upgraded today to exactly the same versions (and 2.6.16-10), and it
> still works fine. I don't have a /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy file, or
> /etc/X11/xserver directory, for that matter :-/. I do get the same
> warn
Hi,
7 days, 23 hours, 57 minutes, 39 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Ludovic Court?s wrote:
> >I just tried the brand new Xorg 7 packages on my U5 (it has an ATI 3D Rage
> >Pro 215GP board with 16 MB of RAM). Basically, whether I use the ATI or FB
> >driver, the system ha
Hello,
I just tried the brand new Xorg 7 packages on my U5 (it has an ATI 3D Rage
Pro 215GP board with 16 MB of RAM). Basically, whether I use the ATI or FB
driver, the system hangs soon after Xorg started.
Here is the output of Xorg with the ATI driver (I launched it from an SSH
session):
X
Hi Jurij,
3 days, 15 hours, 21 minutes, 17 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Ludovic Court?s wrote:
>
> >In fact, I was using 2.6.14 (with Bob Breuer's SMP patch) which does
> >_not_ have this lock sequence change.
> >
> >Now, I tried to apply this lock sequence change to m
Hi,
One day, 23 hours, 10 minutes, 12 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> Ok, I did some digging. Since people also see this bug on Ultra1, it must
> be esp-specific. Most recent change to esp.c dates to February 2006, all
> other changes are over a year old, so it's pretty unlikely that they ar
Hi,
Today, 16 hours, 59 minutes, 24 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> Right, I was able to reproduce the problem on my SS20. While apt-get
> updating/upgrading the following messages started scrolling through
> console:
>
> esp0: DMA error a440030f
> esp0: Resetting scsi bus
> esp0: DMA error a
Hi,
Yesterday, 19 hours, 45 minutes, 7 seconds ago, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> I've committed the changes to build sparc32 images to the experimental
> branch of the svn and run a test build. The resulting images are available
> for download at http://www.wooyd.org/debian/kernels/.
Great! Would it
Hi,
One day, 20 hours, 59 minutes, 26 seconds ago,
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> For the sparc64 stuff you should look in the arch/sparc64 directory
> (arch/sparc contains sparc32 code).
Hence the SBus code, of course...
Thanks for debugging this and for reporting the problem to the kernel
mailing lis
Hi,
Yesterday, 18 hours, 33 seconds ago, Frans Pop wrote:
> Yes, I can confirm.
> Workaround that works for me is to use hwclock.
Thanks for the trick.
`date' in GNU Coreutils uses `settimeofday ()' while `hwclock' invokes
an ioctl on `/dev/rtc'. So the problem seems to come from the kernel's
i
Hello,
Running `date -s ' on my Ultra 5 systematically makes the
machine hang. Looking at what google says about it, this seems to be a
"known problem", one that hasn't been solved yet. Can anyone confirm
this?
In the mean time, are there workarounds?
Thanks,
Ludovic.
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Today, 38 minutes, 0 second ago, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Saturday 07 January 2006 18:13, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > The installation is not over yet but it seems to be working well,
> > except that it did not automatically find out which driver to use for
> > the Ethernet card
Hi,
Yesterday, 21 hours, 3 minutes, 57 seconds ago, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I'm using the latest and greatest installer, with a 2.4 kernel though:
>
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-sparc/20051026/images/sparc32/netboot/boot.img
> MD5: da03e8b5b6a1bfd
Today, 34 minutes, 3 seconds ago, Hartwig Atrops wrote:
> If you still have trouble: which bootimage (URL)? I can try to check it for
> you.
I'm using the latest and greatest installer, with a 2.4 kernel though:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-sparc/20051026/images/sparc32/n
Today, one hour, 12 minutes, 49 seconds ago, Frans Pop wrote:
> During the installation hard disks are not necessarily detected at boot
> time, but may be detected later during the different hardware detection
> phases.
Ok, I guess I was too impatient. ;-)
It turns out that I needed the `esp'
Hi,
I'm having troubles with the netboot images on an SS20. Basically, none
of those that I've tried seem to detect at boot time the SCSI hard drive
that's in the machine (a look at the output of `dmesg' makes me think
so), although a `probe-scsi' at the OB prompt does show it.
I tried pretty mu
Hi,
Today, one hour, 3 minutes, 58 seconds ago, Frans Pop wrote:
> What will happen in the long term remains to be seen. There is a very
> simple solution though: more active involvement from people who care in
> those ports [1], especially in resolving kernel and porting issues and
> maintenan
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