Re: Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > i hadn't. now i did (just manually edited /etc/X11/XF86Config ; was > that the right way?), and the mouse is great. but i have no idea why > it helped -- what does /dev/psaux have to do with /dev/mouse, which > appears just to be /dev/gpmdata? an

Re: Minor problem on install - Where should I report.

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:50:03PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] insinuated: > Initial install goes well. After reboot, get repeated errors: > > "perl: warning: Setting locale failed" > > along with some info about LANG and LANGUAGE (the messages are in > the /var/log/installer.log, and I can submit i

Re: Yet another suddenly-weird xterm

2002-01-10 Thread Keith Willoughby
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then, I did "apt-get upgrade" and upgraded ~55 packages, then > rebooted. Now, in konsole ssh sessions from rebel to foobar, > the Insert, Home & End keys don't work from the 2.05a.0(1) > prompt. I have this in .inputrc that seems to do the trick. "\e[7

Re: Testing to unstable

2002-01-10 Thread Roderick Cummings
From: "Jason M. Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Testing to unstable Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:55:51 -0500 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:19:15AM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: | On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:10:32AM -0500, Roderick Cummings wrote: <<---snip--->> |

Re: Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > so i think this is all basically correct, but i'm not sure how to go > about varying these options without going through dpkg-reconfigure > xserver-xfree86 again, which i don't want to do, since everything else > seems to be working correctly. as X

Re: Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread Angus D Madden
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:42:20PM +1000, john wrote: > We have come to a point where we would like to use some software that is > currently in woody on a production server that is currently running > potato. > > Now we have a few approaches as I see it: > > 1) We install the packages from upstre

Re: Testing to unstable

2002-01-10 Thread Roderick Cummings
From: Adam Majer To: Roderick Cummings CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Testing to unstable Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:19:15 -0600 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:10:32AM -0500, Roderick Cummings wrote: > > Hi, > > I had a system running testing for a while, and I decided to try uns

Re: Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > i would be interested how other people configure their mice. it's always > a pain i find. gpmdata doesn't always work, PS/2 doesn't always work, > psaux doesn't always work. it's always a plain $5 PS/2 mouse that i use. > disabling gpm with PS/2 on

Re: X Configuration in Woody

2002-01-10 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 19:45, Mark Wagnon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get a dist-upgraded woody system to run X correctly. > I've read through a previous thread about running dpkg-reconfigure > xserver-xfree86, but I still seem to be having a few problems. First, > my monitor is being driven

Re: Yet another suddenly-weird xterm

2002-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 January 2002 11:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:26:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Delete, Backspace, & the 4 arrow keys work, though. And the 4 > > questionable keys *do* work in curses progr

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Gary Turner
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:03:20 -0700, Luke Call wrote: >I believe they are compiled into the kernel; not modules. I just >re-checked the options selected in make menuconfig and "parallel port" >had an asterisk, as did "pc-style hardware". lpd is in the ps list, if >that matters. > >Does that soun

RE: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
The only problem with that is that people start using "myhost.dynamic-dns-provider.com" as their domain name for email. That's not bad in and of itself, except when they're on a dialup modem link and {dis|re}connect often. The DNS RR's get updated often, mail servers cache them, and try to connec

Re: Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:00:18AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > check that you configured PS/2 on /dev/psaux. i hadn't. now i did (just manually edited /etc/X11/XF86Config ; was that the right way?), and the mouse is great. but i have no idea why it helped -- what does /dev/psaux have to do with /de

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0609 +0100]: > For the benefit of a lurking newbie, what is "FHS-accordance"? the filesystem hierarchy standard[1]. it specifies very exactly where each file of a package *has* to go. that keeps the system very clean. redhat doesn't do that

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Wagner
At 06:01 AM 1/11/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: >okay, why libwrap then? Once the network is compromised, it makes no difference what's on the box. If done properly, the compromised network is indistinguishable from the uncompromised network. That box is totally on it's own. :) >/29, although

Re: Debian on Lindows ?

2002-01-10 Thread Alec
On Friday 11 January 2002 11:05 am, wrote: > Hello Debianites, > > Personally i've grown attached to the Debian way of doing things (cfr. > prev. mail) yet am still stuck with a windows-only scanner. > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me about the possibility to get the > Debian/Gnu Linux-styl

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brenda J. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0602 +0100]: > So machine.remailer.address thinks it is getting the message from > web30.achilles.net which can be resolved: should this be sufficient? > Or is the next Received header (Received: from unknown...) trying > to tell me som

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Paul E Condon
martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0121 +0100]: > > I've never felt RPM was as good as DEB. RPM-based distros just don't seem > > to be as maintainable over the long haul. > > which i attribute to the FHS-accordance of Debian. really.

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:30:32AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > also sprach Brenda J. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0106 +0100]: > > Also, the shells in my xterms do not even have the env variable > > that previously existed in the /etc/environment file (LANG=C), > > although in the shell that

Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial

2002-01-10 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Thursday 10 January 2002 23:27, Donald R. Spoon wrote: > Jesse Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at > > http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html > > > > I would appreciate it if the vim guru's would take a look at > > it and let me kno

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Chris Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0541 +0100]: > This is sort of the function of canonical names. "Other" names for the IP > besides the absolute name (or Loopback name in our parlance). But CNAME's > are deprecated for other reasons. I personally never had any problems us

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:11:23PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:42:28PM -0500, dman wrote: > > Clearly you are not using your ISPs system as a smarthost, but have > > setup exim to deliver directly to the remote system. What you need to > > Aha, correct. I think I'

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Chris Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0556 +0100]: > >a bogus IP won't even make it past OSI layer 4 on debian... > >rp_filter... > > There are ways of doing it such that the box has NO WAY of knowing > that the traffic is spoofed. Granted, that is hard to do. Even > paranoid

Re: Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0550 +0100]: > except the mouse is really erratic. if i move it at all it goes > psychotic, opening up random rxvt terms, menus, and clicking itself > into a full screen of calculator applications and icons. which is > mildly amusing but

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Wagner
At 04:22 AM 1/11/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: >a bogus IP won't even make it past OSI layer 4 on debian... rp_filter... There are ways of doing it such that the box has NO WAY of knowing that the traffic is spoofed. Granted, that is hard to do. Even paranoid lookups can be overcome. But it'

Erratic mouse

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:32:01AM +0100, marTin insinuated: > makes sense. then this must be the problem. go for it, nori! gone for. succeeded. well, mostly. after the usual agonies my mother goes into when i take apart anything involving both my computer (let alone hers!) and screwdrivers, i foun

X Configuration in Woody

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Wagnon
Hi all, I'm trying to get a dist-upgraded woody system to run X correctly. I've read through a previous thread about running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but I still seem to be having a few problems. First, my monitor is being driven at resolutions I know will burn it up, but when configuring

Re: Yet another suddenly-weird xterm

2002-01-10 Thread crispin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:26:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Hi. > > Delete, Backspace, & the 4 arrow keys work, though. And the 4 > questionable keys *do* work in curses programs like vim 6. > > # showkey -s > kb mode was XLATE > > press any key (program terminates after 10s of last

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:33:50AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | > Expect questions. | | dman! dman, wake up! dman! It's time for bed here. 11:51pm local time. (are you just getting up for work martin?) -D -- In the way of righteousness there is life; along that path is immortalit

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:11:23PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote: | On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:42:28PM -0500, dman wrote: | > Clearly you are not using your ISPs system as a smarthost, but have | > setup exim to deliver directly to the remote system. What you need to | | Aha, correct. I think I'

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Wagner
At 10:01 PM 1/10/02 -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: >Congratulations ... you just set up your DNS incorrectly. Every PTR >entry should resolve to a _unique_ name, and that name should resolve >to a _unique_ IP. That doesn't mean you can't have additional A >records doing load balancing. To give a

Re: Apache virtualhosts with different user

2002-01-10 Thread Dries Kimpe
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Gabor Gludovatz wrote: > if I define 'user' in virtualhost section of apache's httpd.conf, then my > cgi scripts will be running as 'user' if suexec has been set up correctly. > It's okay. But how can I tell apache to run the whole virtualhost as > 'user'? Including accessing h

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brenda J. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0511 +0100]: > Aha, correct. I think I'd like to use my isp as a smarthost. > However, I have messed with my exim configuration and now I'm > afraid to change it. it's quite an easy change. i'll let you figure it out though ;) > > the

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Thursday 10 January 2002 19:21, Stuart Krivis wrote: > --On Friday, January 11, 2002 00:19:57 +0100 martin f krafft > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: > >> Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of > >> dpkg-shlibdeps?

Fwd: Yet another suddenly-weird xterm

2002-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Forgot to say: # echo $TERM xterm This is what it's always been. - -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Yet another suddenly-weird xterm Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:26:41 -0600 From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-user"

RE: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial

2002-01-10 Thread Donald R. Spoon
Jesse Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html I would appreciate it if the vim guru's would take a look at it and let me know if I've made any errors or have any suggestions. What I really need is

Yet another suddenly-weird xterm

2002-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. (Yes, I looked thru the archives for the recent article on xterm weirdness.) Here it is: I ssh from a konsole on my workstation (rebel) to my almost-totally-woody debian firewall (foobar). This afternoon, the Insert, Home & End keys worked cor

Re: Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread James Cameron
I agree with Martin ... you can smell a freeze coming. It's fantastic. I use woody for two Compaq production intranet servers, and a mix of potato/woody for one important server that I cannot risk something going wrong on during an upgrade. All three servers are about 450km from me, hence the ca

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 04:32:01AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0156 +0100]: | > | not really. maybe i am misremembering. but it's highly prefered over | > | editing XF86Config by hand. unless you want to read the manpages, | > | web, and spend so

Re: Screensaver while gdm is runing?

2002-01-10 Thread Dries Kimpe
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Stan Brown wrote: > What's the trick to geting xscreensaver to run, whicle gdm is displaying > alogin prompt? > > I added to /etc/X11/gdm/Postsession, the following > > /usr/X11R6/bin/screensaver -display $DISPLAY -no-splash -timeout 5 0nice 10 > > But I don't see the proce

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0501 +0100]: > Congratulations ... you just set up your DNS incorrectly. Every PTR > entry should resolve to a _unique_ name, and that name should resolve > to a _unique_ IP. That doesn't mean you can't have additional A > records doing

Re: Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Majer
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:42:20PM +1000, john wrote: > 2) We upgrade to testing. > > Is it safe? . Who is running production servers > on testing? what if any issues have arisen? Depends what you are running in what environment. RedHat is usually less stable then testing so I don't know what to

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:42:28PM -0500, dman wrote: > Clearly you are not using your ISPs system as a smarthost, but have > setup exim to deliver directly to the remote system. What you need to Aha, correct. I think I'd like to use my isp as a smarthost. However, I have messed with my exim con

Re: cvs no space left on device

2002-01-10 Thread Kendall Shaw
"Brenda J. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You don't have a separate filesystem for /tmp? That's where > the space is running out. Try the df command, it will tell you > all the filesystems you have as well as how full they are. > > There are two kinds of space on unix-style filesystems:

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Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0459 +0100]: > If people want to complain about MS they can because they cannot fix > anything. In unix if it suxs, you fix it so it doesn't suck... Simple > enough? :) h! now i get it! thanks! ;^> damn, it's 5am again... -- martin;

Re: Scheduled downtime for murphy.debian.org(lists.debian.org)

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0351 +0100]: > The time for this maintenance is scheduled for Friday, January 11, at > 9pm UTC. This is 3pm local time, for murphy. cool! finally a better reason to stop writing debian list mail than work ;) -- martin; (greeting

Re: Why netscape menu item runs mozilla

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Majer
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:23:23PM -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > The Gnome Internet/Netscape menu item is set to run gnome-moz-remote > which in turn runs Mozilla. This actually seems like a bug to me; > otherwise, why have separate Netscape and Mozilla menu items? Is this > really a bug? If

Re: Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0342 +0100]: > We have come to a point where we would like to use some software that is > currently in woody on a production server that is currently running > potato. it's about time ;^> > Now we have a few approaches as I see it: > > 1) We insta

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:29:08AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > i think you need to know exactly what this checks to get a clue... > > first, the IP is taken and reverse-resolved to a domain name. then the > domain name is resolved to an IP. if that IP doesn't match, it'll DENY. > > now if 1.2

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Majer
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:22:00AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.10.2042 +0100]: > > > www.microsoft.com might be able to help ;^> > > > > You are more right than you think: every time I run into new *nix suckage, > > all I need to do is r

Re: squirrelmail: apache/php and register_globals

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0253 +0100]: > > the php.ini setting works perfectly, *unless* you try to override it, in > > which case it will *always* and *automatically*, without warning, and > > without futher ado, turn itself off by the time that the f

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0342 +0100]: > 220 dman.ddts.net ESMTP Exim 3.33 #1 Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:29:31 -0500 > HELO > 250 dman.ddts.net Hello dman at dman.ddts.net [127.0.0.1] > MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is syntactically correct > RCPT TO: <[EMA

Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?

2002-01-10 Thread glynis
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:32:41PM +0100, Paul Huygen wrote: > Andrew Nesbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (about suitable kooks for > LaTex): > > the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) > Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the > Lamport book is very

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeremy L. Gaddis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0338 +0100]: > If you're on a dialup link, why don't you use your > ISP's mail server as a smart host? Let them take > care of your mail delivery. that would be the proper way of doing it. or to get a dynamic host name... -- martin;

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brenda J. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0139 +0100]: > I don't have a domain. My isp has one but I don't. My > FQHN is seal (and it's not visible from the internet anyway). it's not FQHN then ;) FQ is fully-qualified, which requires a top-level domain. why not just mak

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:20:13 +1000, john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > One thing that speeds up scp tremendously is to add a -c blowfish to the > command. There may be patent issues or something, but the transfers are much > faster. > """ Blowfish is a symmetric block cipher that can be

RE: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
If you're on a dialup link, why don't you use your ISP's mail server as a smart host? Let them take care of your mail delivery. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Brenda J. Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:39 PM To:

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0156 +0100]: > | not really. maybe i am misremembering. but it's highly prefered over > | editing XF86Config by hand. unless you want to read the manpages, > | web, and spend some time to get it working. it *is* possible, they > | say... > > I'll sa

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brenda J. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0106 +0100]: > > good point. after all: [1] > > > > 1. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/aix/files/aixfiles/environment.htm > > Right! I always look to IBM AIX documentation to find out about my > unix system ;-) you too? cool. maybe we

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0134 +0100]: > scp /home/user/file.txt bigserver:/home/user2/ & ssh -f bigserver 'cat > /home/user2/file.txt' < /home/user/file.txt -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> ma

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Chris Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0205 +0100]: > Well, the rationale behind this is as you touched on, preventing > spoofed address attacks. A paranoid lookup essentially verifies that > the connecting system is a known legit host. In effect you're using > your DNS system a

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Gary Turner
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:31:58 -0700, Luke Call wrote: > >Please post the output of lsmod, the end several lines of >/var/log/lpr.log, > >/etc/printcap, and /var/log/cups/error_log. This may give some > >indication of what's going on. > >Steve > >Here's the lsmod output: > Module

Debian on Lindows ?

2002-01-10 Thread
Hello Debianites, Personally i've grown attached to the Debian way of doing things (cfr. prev. mail) yet am still stuck with a windows-only scanner. I was wondering if anyone can tell me about the possibility to get the Debian/Gnu Linux-style to work on a to-be-installed Lindows system. Lindow

Re: Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:42:20PM +1000, john wrote: :2) We upgrade to testing. : :Is it safe? . Who is running production servers :on testing? what if any issues have arisen? Well, not production servers. I do have a mix of workstations some testing, some stable, and a few I've pulled tricks

Re: xterm and the backspace key, the saga continues.

2002-01-10 Thread crispin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:52:30PM +0100, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Sander Smeenk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > xterm-color > > > mines 'xterm'. You could try > > > export TERM=xterm > > Doesn't help :( > > I managed to get my $TERM setting to say 'xterm' when I log in. > Now my backspace wor

[impossible?] libc6 upgrade/install issue

2002-01-10 Thread
Hi, Recently i ran into quite a lot of trouble with my Debian Gnu/Linux system. I can't exactly recall what triggered the mayhem but i think it had something to do with setting up an unstable entry in sources.list After correcting this i found a number of stable-packages to be in the obsolote

Re: hdparm and old system

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Majer
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:01:02PM +, J.A.Serralheiro wrote: > > It's a 16450 UART [or something like that]. Hence 1 byte FIFO instead of > > 16 byte FIFO. > > > > If the interrupts were unmasked properly then I wouldn't need to get new > > hardware... As I said, it works in 2.2.x series...

Re: Playing WMA audio streams

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On 09-Jan-2002 Coen De Roover wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there a program that's capable of playing continuous WMA audio streams > > ? > > None I have seen, it is a proprietary microsoft api. > MPlayer's documentation *claims* it can play .w

Re: is it possible to downgrade from woody

2002-01-10 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 05:45:04PM +0300, Nantenaina Tianarivo Ulrich wrote: > > I was playing with mt test machin. and I've tried to upgrade my debian > on this machine from a potato to a woody. > > But after the upgrade,I found out that some of my application don't work > anymore. As, we are ma

Re: Play VCD on computer

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Interestingly enough, an apt-cache search for vcd only shows xine. > >From the MPlayer website (http://www.mplayerhq.hu): "Precompiled packages It is NOT POSSIBLE to make fast and working binary packages ofmplayer now, because most of options are still au

Wrong release file in Potato 2.2r4????

2002-01-10 Thread Penguin
In my Debian Potato 2.2r4 CD set, the "release" file that is in /dists/potato/ (I think... but the main 'stable' directory with the supposed 2.2r4 release packages) says that it is 2.2r3 released in July 2001 or thereabouts as opposed to 2.2r4 released in Nov/Dec 2001. Is this correct, I mean,

Scheduled downtime for murphy.debian.org(lists.debian.org)

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Heath
Brainfood is scheduling downtime for murphy.debian.org(which is also lists.debian.org, and runs all the mailing lists), to do a disk upgrade. This is just the addition of a new drive, with no copying of the existing data. We expect downtime to be minimal. The time for this maintenance is schedul

Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread john
Hello everyone! We have come to a point where we would like to use some software that is currently in woody on a production server that is currently running potato. Now we have a few approaches as I see it: 1) We install the packages from upstream source into /usr/local/ OK, we're talking about

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:39:16PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote: | On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:06:59PM -0500, Mail Delivery System wrote: | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | > SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | > host mail.madduck.net [195.226.187.154]: | > 504 :

Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
Martin, I don't have a domain. My isp has one but I don't. My FQHN is seal (and it's not visible from the internet anyway). I send mail from my mail client to local exim for delivery next time I dial up. exim rewrites the reply-to, from, etc to have the achilles.net, but I guess your software o

Re: exim in cron - why for dialup system?

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:22:15PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > Since I have a dial-up system to my isp for email collection and > > delivery why does cron have an entry for exim? It runs whenever I > > dial up and connect? Should I remove this entry? > > Are you referring to /etc/cron.daily/e

Re: icons in kmail

2002-01-10 Thread Bob Underwood
There's an issue with libpng compatibility. (Take a look at debian-kde archives for more details.) It's been fixed now in unstable (thank you daniel and chris for your quick work on this). I have had unstable kde for quite a while and it works quite well. If there are no RC bugs in the new

Re: squirrelmail: apache/php and register_globals

2002-01-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, martin f krafft wrote: > the php.ini setting works perfectly, *unless* you try to override it, in > which case it will *always* and *automatically*, without warning, and > without futher ado, turn itself off by the time that the first actual > script is parsed. this should not

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:35:24AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > it's not in .zshrc/.bashrc on my systems, and i don't have the problem. > sure, you can stop here, but these things aren't in /etc/skel and thus > it can't be the right way to fix it. > > out of curiosity (if you even want to pursu

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:34:34PM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote: :Hi all, : :I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. :but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit :my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. : :I have tried with the " & " symbol afte

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
>On Wednesday 09 January 2002 20:14, Stephen Gran wrote: >> Thus spake Luke Call: >> > When I say "nothing happens", I mean that no print jobs begin, the >> > printer (which works under Win2k, sigh) makes no sound, there is nothing >just a question: did it ever work under anything besides w2k ? O

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 08:57:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have one of these printers. The only way I ever got > it working was using gimp-print(?) and CUPS. lpr and > all of that wouldn't work. Also with this setup the > quality was awful. It would only do greyscale. When I > hoo

Re: Upgrading kernel-image-2.2.19-ide

2002-01-10 Thread L Vogtmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:18 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > During the upgrade, I get some scary verbiage that seems to be a > bit contradictory. If I'm just doing a straight minor-point-level > upgrade, and have no extra kernel modules, is an overwri

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
>Please post the output of lsmod, the end several lines of /var/log/lpr.log, >/etc/printcap, and /var/log/cups/error_log. This may give some >indication of what's going on. >Steve Here's the lsmod output: Module Size Used by vmmon 18436 0 (u

Re: Play VCD on computer

2002-01-10 Thread D.
--- dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:37:38PM +1100, Steve Kieu > wrote: > | > | > > > | > > Yep -- xine. Works great thought the picture > is a > | > bit small, but > | > > don't use esd for sound (very choppy when I > tried > | > it). (I should also > | > > mentio

Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:31:41PM -, David S wrote: :Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window system : :this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used: : :_exec of u

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread john
Mike Egglestone wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. > but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit > my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. > > I have tried with the " & " symbol after the command but no go. > ex. > scp

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread nate
> Hi all, > > I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. > but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit > my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. > > I have tried with the " & " symbol after the command but no go. > ex. > scp /home/user/file.txt bi

Re: [redhat] VNC ...

2002-01-10 Thread Paul A. Thomas
Hi Arun: Go to Google, type in VNC.. never mind .. the first match is in Great Britan http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ I believe it's an AT&T site which offers it for free. Paul

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > On Thursday 10 January 2002 06:19 pm, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: > > > Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of dpkg-shlibdeps? > > > > only since recently... but in general, RPM

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Wagner
Well, the rationale behind this is as you touched on, preventing spoofed address attacks. A paranoid lookup essentially verifies that the connecting system is a known legit host. In effect you're using your DNS system as another level of authentication. Say somebody wants to covertly log on or a

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread nate
> I've never felt RPM was as good as DEB. RPM-based distros just > don't seem to be as maintainable over the long haul. > > Personally, I have issues with a binary-based distribution. I am > enamored of the *BSD ports system and buildworld. :-) while ports serve a certain purpose, i much prefe

Re: pkg scripts/dependency issues

2002-01-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* 'cduck' Chris Grierson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... 'dpkg *.deb' will install packages in the correct order > *so as to satisfy dependencies*, but that isn't the issue. the issue is > whether the 'preinst' scripts should be checking for installation status > of a package by means of eit

Re: cvs no space left on device

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
> This is not really a debian question, but I'll ask anyway. I ran out > of disk space while retriving files with cvs. Since then I've freed up > 2.5 Gigs worth of space, but cvs still says no space left on device. I > have only one e2fs partition mounted as root, and it has only about > 20% of i

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread dman
Earlier Martin said regarding configuring X : | not really. maybe i am misremembering. but it's highly prefered over | editing XF86Config by hand. unless you want to read the manpages, | web, and spend some time to get it working. it *is* possible, they | say... I'll say it's possible :-). It's

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0121 +0100]: > I've never felt RPM was as good as DEB. RPM-based distros just don't seem > to be as maintainable over the long haul. which i attribute to the FHS-accordance of Debian. really. > Personally, I have issues with a binary-base

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
this wouldn't go to the list if i could reach michael directly. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], kinda cute, huh?) anyway, michael, you better configure your mail user agent appropriately (with a full email address, because you aren't: also sprach Michael Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.10.1320 +0100]:

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.11.0045 +0100]: > > If the command is fixed, then you have to find a way to > > run the file that contains LC_ALL when you start a new > > shell (probably run it from your $HOME/.bashrc, or put > > the commands directly in your $HOME/.bashrc,

scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi all, I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. I have tried with the " & " symbol after the command but no go. ex. scp /home/user/file.txt bigserver:/home/use

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