Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:20:30AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Yes, I realised that at the time. I just treat the creation of the > filesystems on the partitions, and the positioning of them in the tree > to be two separate steps, and by default woul

Re: screen - recover session after a shut down

2003-03-26 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:13:50AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030326 03:44 PST]: > > is there a way in which i can make screen remember what applications > > were open even after i reboot? > > Well, if you typically use the

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:28:03AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > A week ago, I was setting up a new box (well, new as Debian - had been > Win98 and RH) and got to try the Debian boot-floppies installation for > the first time in 2 1/2 years. Even after

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:16:44PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:57:22PM -0500, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > > BTW, Linux doesn't suck. > > > > Linux ROCKS! > -- > > I'm pretty sure that if you switch to digest mode you'll still be able > to post. Heck, you don't need to be subscr

Re: Is my hard drive dying?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please turn your line wraps on to something like 72 columns instead of 1 paragraph. On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:12:48AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > I had these exact same error messages, starting about two weeks > ago. I assumed the hard drive was dy

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:53:36AM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote: > Right! Linux will even tell you when your "Printer is on fire" ;) Unless you use a newer 2.4 kernel. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:26:50AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > The Debian packaging system only understands progress and not > > necissarily the ramifications of such. This could very easily be > > fixed and allow for multiple versions of the s

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:31:13AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > packages since users ignore suggests and recommends. Or at how many > developers have probably added too-tight dependencies because they got > tired of their users ignoring suggests and recom

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:30:10PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > I've looked after windows boxes for many years, windows users find it quite > difficult. Many shudder at the thought of installing anything. OK, good. The night-shift isn't driving m

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:52:15PM -0600, Scott C. Linnenbringer wrote: > Simply put, if you get frustrated easily, then you shouldn't be using Linux. No, you can use Linux just fine. You just shouldn't be maintaining a Linux system. There's a big d

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:57, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > BTW, Linux doesn't suck. > > Linux ROCKS! > > War sucks. > Microsoft sucks. > Professional development seminars suck. > Traffic sucks. > > Lots of things suck. > But not Linux. > Linux is cool. > > Now, when I signed onto this list the only dige

Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I still receive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seems to care except me. WIll someone help me please?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:13:25PM -0500, eauclair wrote: > I subscribed as eaulcair @ optonline .com, but by ISP is changing my email > addresss to eauclair @ optonline .net. I can receive emails to both > addresses, but can only send under the eaucl

two questions about USB keyboard/mouse

2003-03-26 Thread Melissa
Hi, I have a Touchstream keyboard that also functions as a mouse. It uses a USB port. I also have a regular keyboard and mouse plugged into my computer. 1) After I reboot my computer, my Touchstream keyboard is not recognized until I hit a key on my regular keyboard. How do I get my Touchstre

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 22:17, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every distro > > that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI installer > > (and many other GUI to

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every > > distro that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI > > installer (and many other

Re: ASUS motherboard

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Devin
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 08:22, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > I've been trying to install Debian (Woody) on a machine built around > an Asus P4S533-E motherboard. I'm using the vf-2.4 kernel-flavor. > > The problem I'm having is with the onboard LAN controller. > > It's listed among the PCI controllers

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 08:16 pm, ScruLoose wrote: > BTW, it is *strongly* recommended to set your MUA to break your lines at > a reasonable length (72 columns is standard). > It's considered good manners, as it makes it a lot easier to read and > quote your messages. It's not *strongly* recom

System Slows Down

2003-03-26 Thread DanSV
Hey, I just installed debian 3.0, upgraded to testing, put on a custom 2.4.20 kernel, with nvidia-glx all up and running, and I am almost all set. One thing though. Every so often, things will slow to a CRAWL, and then poof, go back to normal. WHAT IS THIS? How can I stop it? Whatever clever prog

Re: How to unselect the german language as

2003-03-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Mariano Kamp wrote: > > I accidently have chosen german as the installer language which also > turned out to be the language of my system now. How can I revert to > english? The locale is typically controlled by the LANG shell variable. Either unset it or set it to the locale of your choice.

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Opinion

2003-03-26 Thread Saurabh Gupta
Dear debian USers My name is Saurabh and I am from India. I need your opinion in one of the problem i am facing with the Debian. I want to write my own script which will do network confriguration , install the Os , make partition after the Kernel is loaded. I cannot find the sample scripts or t

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:57:22PM -0500, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > BTW, Linux doesn't suck. > > Linux ROCKS! > > War sucks. > Microsoft sucks. > Professional development seminars suck. > Traffic sucks. > > Lots of things suck. > But not Linux. > Linux is cool. > > Now, when I signed onto this list

Re: LPRng and LaserWriter 8.7.1 Very Slow

2003-03-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:35:26PM -0800, Nate Slater wrote: > Does anyone have any experience setting up LPRng for Mac clients? Do I need > to take special measures? I've done it, but don't have any insights to offer, I'm afraid. For my OS X box (iBook), it was just a question of pointing to the

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every distro > that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI installer > (and many other GUI tools). Why? The *user* has zero business installing the

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Re: kernel 2.4.20 dma problem

2003-03-26 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Tom Allison wrote: > > Yes, I think it is. See below > Does that mean I'm in trouble? For me (I have a slightly different motherboard but the same VT82C686 South bridge) it meant massive data corruption until I switched off DMA. However the 2.4.21pre6 changelog contains the

Re: remount md0 after disc failure

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:59:53PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > OK, let's try it, df, /home is mounted on /dev/md0. Check contents of /home > then umount /home, check /home directory, empty as expected. Reboot ..., > hmmm, /home is NOT! empty, why? .. df, home is mounted on /dev/md0. > > So fst

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:03:48PM -, Stephen Sherlock wrote: > ... and get at least two sticks of > RAM in there (if one fails, the others keep working, so I'm told). Yeah, they do, but your machine still crashes when it tries to use the faulty RAM. It doesn't do a sort of RAID across memory

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:28:23AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact > that different people learn and perceive in different ways. Some people > learn and take in information best when everything is neat and orderly. > Others do best in what may be perceived as

LPRng and LaserWriter 8.7.1 Very Slow

2003-03-26 Thread Nate Slater
I'm trying to print to LPRng on my Woody box from a Mac with the LaserWriter 8.7.1 driver. I can print a whole web page to it just fine from an OS X box running CUPS. However, when I print a document containing one four-letter word with the LaserWriter 8.7.1 driver, it takes the LPRng server a litt

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:57:22PM -0500, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > BTW, Linux doesn't suck. > > Linux ROCKS! -- > Lots of things suck. > But not Linux. > Linux is cool. Absolutely. I tried several times over the last ten years or so to switch from MS to Linux... Tried Debian, RH, Mandrake, and Slack

Re: hub.c

2003-03-26 Thread Kent West
LeVA wrote: Hello! I have some problem with the usb driver in linux kernel 2.4.20. I don't now who can I write to, so I thought I should give a try here. I have an usb flash drive (usb pen drive). If I connect it to the rear (integrated, port 1) usb port, it works fine. But, if I connect it to th

Re: kernel 2.4.20 dma problem

2003-03-26 Thread Tom Allison
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Tom Allison wrote: Unless there is something that I'm missing, I think that this is a real bug in the kernel-image for the K7 build. Let me guess your motherboard has a VIA chipset? Yes, I think it is. See below Does that mean I'm in trouble? --

RE: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Lindsay Yardley
Perhaps all that's needed is a help option [F1} with layman descriptions??? ... maybe? | -Original Message- | From: Mr. Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 11:54 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks | | | > | >> > I think tha

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:02:53PM -0500, Natali Gulbahce wrote: > Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? When dealing with open source, you're bound to get philosophy. It goes with the territory. > I am getting tired of getting comment

Re: NFS over samba

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:09:15AM -0300, GBV wrote: > How can I map a netware share with samba? (final objective) You can't, Samba has nothing to do with Netware. Neither does NFS. Both do similar functions, but are incompatible. > 1. How can I acc

Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-26 Thread Mr. Baldwin
BTW, Linux doesn't suck. Linux ROCKS! War sucks. Microsoft sucks. Professional development seminars suck. Traffic sucks. Lots of things suck. But not Linux. Linux is cool. Now, when I signed onto this list the only digest option I could see was read-only...Was I mistaken? I would prefer to re

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Mr. Baldwin
> >> > I think that what most people who clammer for a GUI installer really >> > want is a more easy-to-accomplish installation, not necessarily a >> > graphics-based installation. Of course, I could be wrong. YES >> That's me. I don't need an X based installer -- just one that can take >> some

Re: How to unselect the german language as

2003-03-26 Thread ronin2
On 26 Feb 2003 22:40:00 +0100 Mariano Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I accidently have chosen german as the installer language which also > turned out to be the language of my system now. How can I revert to > english? Do "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to generate an English locale, the

Re: kernel 2.4.20 dma problem

2003-03-26 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Tom Allison wrote: > Unless there is something that I'm missing, I think that this is a real bug > in the kernel-image for the K7 build. Let me guess your motherboard has a VIA chipset? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debia

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Wendell Cochran
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:36:57 -0500 From: Bob Paige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] First, I think some people were raised on WIMP interfaces and are just plain scared of text-based interfaces. Call it a mental block, but I've seen it. . . . Yes, conditioning may do it. But here's another obse

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Perhaps I am out in left field, but if a business considers a $1500 computer "expensive", there may be other problems at said company besides fear of linux. We are a club at the local university. With very limited funds, no less. -Roberto Sanchez

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Just out of curiosity, what are the specs of the new machine, and what are they proposing to do with it? I cannot understand why they did not buy 2-3 machines instead of one expensive one. Is there some explanation other than blind stupidity? The machine specs are below. The real kick in the pan

Re: smartsuite obsolete?

2003-03-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:12:37PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:18:24AM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:02:04PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > Looks like it was renamed to "smartmontools". > > > > To help avoid more questions in the fut

RE: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Lindsay Yardley
if it's a 24/7 box it's probably better to run it headless and administer it from a web interface. i.e. webmin etc cheers Lindsay | -Original Message- | From: daniel huhardeaux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 09:32 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: leavi

Re: acme on gnome2.2

2003-03-26 Thread James D Strandboge
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 16:45, Praveen Kallakuri wrote: > WARNING: Unsanitized content follows. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > hello there > > i have been using acme2.0-1woody1 on gnome2.2 (backport provided by > evil-geniuses planet server). > > i had all the multimedia key

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I think you've just made an unfounded logical leap. Why does _every_ distribution need a graphical installer to make linux on the desktop a reality? Clearly the answer is, not every distro needs a graphical installer. If a distribution wants to cater to server-type machines, that's ok (it's gre

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 23:26, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:22 pm, Kent West wrote: > > I think that what most people who clammer for a GUI installer really > > want is a more easy-to-accomplish installation, not necessarily a > > graphics-based installation. Of course, I

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread Haralambos Geortgilakis
Hey Yall, Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:02:53PM -0500, Natali Gulbahce wrote: Hey all, Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? It's a Debian user list with philosophically inclined subscribers. Gotta jump in here, since the topic was my major Philosoph

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread Aryan Ameri
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:02:53PM -0500, Natali Gulbahce wrote: > > Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? ُTrying to seperate *nix from philosophy has never worked in the past (And I hope things like Lindows won't change it in the future). This is not a CISCO or a windows maili

Re: Newbee-ish X and root question

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RE: Unsubscribe

2003-03-26 Thread Joyce, Matthew
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RE: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> > Devil's advocate: how do you knmow firestarter does what it > says it is doing if you don't understand iptables? Please > don't take this as a personal attack; I just feel if you > don't understand the technology, using said technology is > fraught with peril. For a real world example,

Re: nfsroot: client kernel hangs

2003-03-26 Thread Andrei Smirnov
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 03:35:08PM +0300, Andrei Smirnov wrote: > Hi people! please help: > > Im triing to make an nfs-bootable system > and client kernel (with all appropriate config) 2&4&18 > HANGS right after > TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384) > (no more messages or a

Re: Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)

2003-03-26 Thread Nori Heikkinen
[replying to own post as my question evolves:] on Wed, 26 Mar 2003 04:49:44PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: > i just bought a new motherboard that appears to have sound jacks on > it. i can't just plug in my speakers and go -- when i try to play > music, i get the error: > > libao - OSS can

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] IBM (late 1990s?) suggests that: - Turning off your monitor (CRT) will provide power savings and spare your phosphors. Given that a monitor is likely the most long-lived component of your system, this is significant. Yes. But don't forget, if you're on UPS

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:12:14PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:03:39AM -0800, Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > "Koen Dejonghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I installed debian woody on an ordinary pc and was wondering if I can > > > leave the machin

Re: NFS over samba

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 09:09, GBV wrote: > How can I map a netware share with samba? (final objective) > > 1. How can I access netware shares ? > 2. How can I mount a netware share? > Samba has nothing to do with netware. Run 'apt-cache search netware' for more information. -Mark -- To UNSUBS

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ASUS motherboard

2003-03-26 Thread Jim McCloskey
I've been trying to install Debian (Woody) on a machine built around an Asus P4S533-E motherboard. I'm using the vf-2.4 kernel-flavor. The problem I'm having is with the onboard LAN controller. It's listed among the PCI controllers at the initial stage of the boot process (assigned IRQ 5) and l

Re: remount md0 after disc failure

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 01:43:09PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > G'day all, > I have or will have in a few minutes (I hope): > hda1: /boot > hda2: / > hda3: swap > md0: /home > > My question is: If hda fails and I replace it, reinstall debian then umount > /home from / then mount /home on md0 t

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > > list), and got a "we'll think about it." Today when I went into the > > lounge, I saw

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:51:56AM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > ... > > Just out o

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:42:38PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >It's not a question of *me* not wanting a GUI. I'm asking whyinhell > >*anyone* would want one. What does it enhance? > > > >What's the design goal? So far the only thing I've ever seen in print is > >that it needs to be done be

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:02:53PM -0500, Natali Gulbahce wrote: > Hey all, > > Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? It's a Debian user list with philosophically inclined subscribers. > I am getting tired of getting commentary emails long and philosophical. > Am I missing sth? Th

RE: PCI ATA card support

2003-03-26 Thread Lindsay Yardley
| On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:15:42AM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: | > G'day Pigeon, | > Sorry. | > cheers | > Lindsay | | No worries mate. :-) | | You seem to have more or less got it going now... sound! One point - | the usual syntax is mount , eg. | mount /dev/md0 /home | | Pigeon

Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)

2003-03-26 Thread Nori Heikkinen
hi, i just bought a new motherboard that appears to have sound jacks on it. i can't just plug in my speakers and go -- when i try to play music, i get the error: libao - OSS cannot set rate to 44100 Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) the device is not in use. this occurs

acme on gnome2.2

2003-03-26 Thread Praveen Kallakuri
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How to unselect the german language as

2003-03-26 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi, I accidently have chosen german as the installer language which also turned out to be the language of my system now. How can I revert to english? Cheers, Mariano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Bob Paige
I think that what most people who clammer for a GUI installer really want is a more easy-to-accomplish installation, not necessarily a graphics-based installation. Of course, I could be wrong. (That'd be the third time this year if I am - doh!) My opinions: First, I think some people were rais

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:22 pm, Kent West wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > > >While some people do better with a command line interface, others do much > >better with an intuitive or graphical interface. > > > > >Some people > >learn and take in information best when everything is neat and

php4-ldap not working

2003-03-26 Thread Peter Neubauer
Hi, trying to add ldap support to php4, i installed php4-ldap via apt-get. However, starting apache gives me: Reloading apache modulesPHP Warning: ldap: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20010901, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20020429, debug=0,

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Lamb wrote: > Quite the contrary. I use front-ends and turn those blasted suggests and > recommends off. How does the maintainer know what works better "for me"? > They don't. If I want something I'll include it, thank-you-very-much, not > stop trying to add more bloat to my system.

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Watson wrote: > Please go and understand why shared libraries need to include the soname > version in their package name, and then come back. If the version is > removed from the package name upgrades (certainly partial upgrades) > *will* break badly. And no, it's not particularly a hack: all

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Joey Hess
Jamin W. Collins wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200303/msg04053.html > > It basically boils down to packaging v4 of exim as a different package > name (exim4). It can then Provide "exim" for packages that require the > "exim" package, but would not be an automatic u

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-26 Thread Joey Hess
Rob Weir wrote: > Not to interdict in this rather pointless discussion, but package names > basically serve as the 'primary key' within the Debian archive. If you > start uploading packages with the exact same name, but have some other > header that differs, you need to modify most everything that

Re: OT: VMS / WNT [was: Re: Official Exim 4 package]

2003-03-26 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:31:06PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt waxed eloquent and said: > On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 15:36, Pigeon wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > > Windows 5 (XP, 2000) is based on the "now" 32-bit ker

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Kent West
Hal Vaughan wrote: While some people do better with a command line interface, others do much better with an intuitive or graphical interface. Some people learn and take in information best when everything is neat and orderly. You may like the curses interface. Good for you. Others

Re: X

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:37:29AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:39:44PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:46:54PM +1100, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > > > A policy of "Sensible by default" (which I believe debian employs) > > > pretty much means you've got

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:07:06PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > ... If they can't handle that, they should stick to a > Game Cube or Playstation *WITHOUT* Linux... (strange synapses fire) Can you boot Knoppix on a PS1? Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Re: Setting mtu value in eth0 config files?

2003-03-26 Thread Andy Wettstein
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:50:36PM +, Joao Pedro Clemente wrote: > > How can I set u the mtu valeu that I want in my eth0 interface? > > I need this cause I am behind a DSL line with a ICS sharing.. > MTU needs to be set lower than 1500 to work properly, so I'm setting it to > 1450 by hand ev

Re: Setting mtu value in eth0 config files?

2003-03-26 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Add the following to you /etc/network/interfaces file iface eth0 ... ... up ifconfig eth0 mtu 1450 I do this on several of my machines that are on DSL with an IPv6 tunnel that needs a lower MTU... Jeremy On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:50:36PM +, Joao Pedr

mozilla composer problem ...

2003-03-26 Thread dave selby
Im starting to use mozilla composer to generate HTML. It seems great except I have a couple of queries ... Having changed text in mozilla I can save AOK, once I publish the save and the publish options grey out, when I do more changes on the text the publish option lights up, makes sense to me,

Re: New "Creating Custom Kernels" newbiedoc

2003-03-26 Thread Faheem Mitha
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:43:32 -0500 (EST) > Faheem Mitha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for your feedback. > > > > Just one more. I think that you need tk*-dev in section 2.

Re: screen - recover session after a shut down

2003-03-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030326 03:44 PST]: > is there a way in which i can make screen remember what applications > were open even after i reboot? Well, if you typically use the same applications, you can have them started automatically via your .screenrc. It wo

Re: Multiple network interfaces

2003-03-26 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:58:41AM -0600, Juan dominguez wrote: | Hello everybody | | I have installed debian 3.0 in my PC. After that I | recompiled the kernel (version 2.4.4). The network | interface module is part of the kernel. I have a | network interface working successfull, but I want to

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
Natali Gulbahce wrote: > Hey all, > > Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? > > I am getting tired of getting commentary emails long and philosophical. > Am I missing sth? > Is this the way mail lists work? You have posed some extremely interesting and important questions. I am sur

Re: [ale] gpg and detached sigs?

2003-03-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Robert L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030326 10:15 PST]: > > > At work we're finally implementing certain lists require you sign your > emails. Using my config at home all is well but the way I was signing > my emails wouldn't work with the mutt/gpg combo.

Re: philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread nate
Natali Gulbahce said: > Hey all, > > Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? > > I am getting tired of getting commentary emails long and philosophical. Am > I missing sth? > Is this the way mail lists work? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ "Help and discussion among users of Debi

Re: repartitioning: joining two partitions

2003-03-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030326 09:58 PST]: > From /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/Partition.gz: > > The primary partition used to house the logical partitions is > called an extended partition and it has its own file system type > (0x05). Unli

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Stephen Sherlock
Best advice I could give you if you're trying to minimize downtime is to try and double up on everything. If you get another HDD the same size as the one you've got, you can run it in a RAID-1 configuration (check the howtos) and get at least two sticks of RAM in there (if one fails, the others ke

Setting mtu value in eth0 config files?

2003-03-26 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
How can I set u the mtu valeu that I want in my eth0 interface? I need this cause I am behind a DSL line with a ICS sharing.. MTU needs to be set lower than 1500 to work properly, so I'm setting it to 1450 by hand every time I boot.. Any ideia wher I can add MTU to a config file? Or I need to ha

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re: New "Creating Custom Kernels" newbiedoc

2003-03-26 Thread Faheem Mitha
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you for your feedback. > > >1) The pcmcia option merits special mention, since by default it is > >turned on (at least for the kernels I have used) and you explicitly > >need to turn it off if you aren't using it, otherwise the compilation > >

re: New "Creating Custom Kernels" newbiedoc

2003-03-26 Thread Faheem Mitha
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Thank you for your feedback. Just one more. I think that you need tk*-dev in section 2.2, not just tk*, to do "make xconfig", since this amounts to doing a compilation. Faheem -- To UNSUBSCR

OpenOffice.org 1.1 Beta release

2003-03-26 Thread Chris Halls
In case anyone is interested, the 1.1 OpenOffice.org Beta is out now. There is a problem which can cause this version to exit with an IO error message on machines that do not have a domain name set. See this issue for details: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11777 You can wor

Re: Raising Debian Awareness

2003-03-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:48:54AM +, debian parisc wrote: > I'm trying to get the corporate suits to look at debian for some of our > existing hp, sparc and intel platforms. What I need to understand is how it > is being used out there. You may find http://www.debian.org/users/ very helpful

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Wohler
"Koen Dejonghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I installed debian woody on an ordinary pc and was wondering if I can > leave the machine on 24/7 without damaging it. If anything, it's harder on the machine to turn it on and off rather than just leave it running. Tread very carefully with hdparm.

philosophy mailing list

2003-03-26 Thread Natali Gulbahce
Hey all, Is this a philosophy mail list or Debian user list? I am getting tired of getting commentary emails long and philosophical. Am I missing sth? Is this the way mail lists work? Natali -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

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