Re: HELP

2003-03-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:49:00PM +, Joao Pedro Clemente wrote: > > > > following: ttyS0 ttyS1 ttyS2 ttyS3). This is the hardware on my machine: > > > VGA ATI Radeon 7500 64mb AGP; Creative SB Live Player 5.1; a Realtek > > > Ethernet card(10/100); ASUS Motherboard for PIII Mod.TUSL2-C; a

Re: threading broken mailing list and mutt

2003-03-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:10:52AM +1030, David Purton wrote: > Hi, > > I'm subscribed to a mailing list that seems to break just about every > rule of heard people fight bitterly over on this list :) > > The main thing I would like it to do is to thread properly, but > > The in-reply the header

Re: Acorn A5000

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Grenyer
Hi > Different architectures make more or less efficient use of RAM, but I > suspect you are going to find it extremely difficult to even get debian > installed on such a system. My 5MB Amiga 2000 simply thrashed itself to > death trying to install packages, thanks to the bloated package > databas

Re: Acorn A5000

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Grenyer
Hi > Back to the A5000, http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ has stuff for ARM > processor powered linux machines, the A5000 has an ARM3. Getting linux on > an A5000 can be found here: > > http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/armlinux/acorn/desc.shtml Yes, thank you. However, the A5000 files need for install are

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 23:43, Hal Vaughan wrote: --snip-- > From your earlier statements, you have talked about users doing what YOU (or > WE) want them to do. In other words, the technical computer people making > the choice for the real world users. There was an article (don't remember > the

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:07:24PM -0600, Dan Hunt waxed eloquent and said: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:10:47AM -0300, Santiago Hirschfeld wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good > > idea to i

Re: Programing Question

2003-03-28 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:09:44AM -0600, Harley D. Eades III wrote: > Hello, >This might be off topic, but I hope someone can answer a question > for me. Is there any documentation on parport.h parport_pc.h. I seem to > get err's when I try to use either of them. > Do you have to link to a

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Derek Gladding
On Friday 28 March 2003 16:47, John Hasler wrote: > Shyamal writes: > > Most of the software is already copyrighted. > > _All_ of it is copyrighted. There is no software old enough to have > entered into the public domain. http://www.fourmilab.ch/babbage/sketch.html - Derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-28 Thread cr
On Saturday 29 March 2003 07:41, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >As a perennial budget-limited fixer/upgrader of not-quite-new PC's, I > > just don't want to know these brand-name bleeding-edge > > nobody-else's-bits-fit 'top > >name' brands. Dell, Compaq, HP, IBM you can keep 'em.Give me a >

Re: Acron A5000

2003-03-28 Thread cr
On Saturday 29 March 2003 01:54, Paul Grenyer wrote: > > As for backing up first. I thought you migth be interested to know that > Risc OS is entirely ROM based and can run with or without a hard disk. In 2 MB of ROM, IIRC, and in that you get a complete full-featured GUI and command line OS, wi

Programing Question

2003-03-28 Thread Harley D. Eades III
Hello, This might be off topic, but I hope someone can answer a question for me. Is there any documentation on parport.h parport_pc.h. I seem to get err's when I try to use either of them. Do you have to link to a lib? I am not shere I am trying to learn more about devices and such. Any help

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:55:55 -0500, >> Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I would think that the listmaster for each list would have an > interest in the discussions that take place in it. You know, > they're a Debian-user like the rest of us ?? List Masters are not there p

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 29 March 2003 12:04 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > Why? The *user* has zero business installing the box. Yes, Joe Moron > > > benefits from having GUI tools, becaus

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:10:47AM -0300, Santiago Hirschfeld wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good > idea to install an antivirus, if it is...what should i use? should i use it > to scan mails and files? can someone give me some hints? You ha

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-28 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:11:31PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > I must be failing to understand something here. Knoppix will certainly > autoconfigure itself when it boots off the CD, but I don't see anything > that causes that configuration to be remembered for later when you boot > your new Debi

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago Hirschfeld wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good > idea to install an antivirus, if it is...what should i use? should i use it > to scan mails and files? can someone give me some hints? if other windoze boxes t

Re: LPRng and LaserWriter 8.7.1 Very Slow

2003-03-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:23:17PM -0800, Nate Slater wrote: > Thanks for your help, Marc. I'm beginning to see from the LPRng list > that new versions of LPRng don't work with Mac OS 9 clients. I'll > probably do some shopping around for another LPR server. I'd like to see one of those referenc

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-28 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > > Why? The *user* has zero business installing the box. Yes, Joe Moron > > benefits from having GUI tools, because they mean he doesn't have to think, > > but it matters not fo

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #1051

2003-03-28 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
Now I've got a fileserver all configured and worked out the neccessary redundancy senario's, I'd like to administer it remotely. I know of webmin and someone suggested ssh in another thread any other methods i should look at. I think that ssh (The Secure Shell) is the only real alternative. There a

Re: LWN: Ptrace vulnerability in 2.2 and 2.4 kernels

2003-03-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:12:25AM +0300, DouRiX wrote: > DouRiX wrote: > > > >Hi everybody, > > > >Does someone know where is debian about this issue ? > > > > > > I see that there is already an update but only for mips, do you know why ? No, that is odd. Another

/etc/inittab config question?????

2003-03-28 Thread Wm . G . McGrath
Hi all, I'd like to use the Keyboard Request signal to start fresh terminal windows when pressed. ie map the Menu key to Keyboard Request. /etc/inittab contains the line: # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow). kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work."

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:10:47AM -0300, Santiago Hirschfeld wrote: > I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good > idea to install an antivirus, if it is...what should i use? should i use it > to scan mails and files? can someone give me some hints? Well, it's not

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Hunt
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:10:47AM -0300, Santiago Hirschfeld wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good > idea to install an antivirus, if it is...what should i use? should i use it > to scan mails and files? can someone give me some hints? > I

Re: How do I 'tar' a huge file?

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Mackinney
Travis Crump declaimed: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > >This actually worked in that I was able to store the whole file into > >seperate archives. But, when I tried to untar, it failed on the first > >file, saying it encountered an unexpected EOF. > > > >Am I missing something here? or can this s

Re: OT: Paris, France 11-14 April 2003

2003-03-28 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:32:08AM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated: > I'll be in Paris from 11 to 14 April of this year. Those interested > in signing beers and drinking keys, please reply to me privately; > I'll try to arrange a Debian meeting. same goes for me. -- .~. nori @ sccs.swar

Help with DRM / DRI on Matrox G400

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Mackinney
I've got a Matrox Millenium G400, and recently installed a DVDROM drive. Unfortunately, Xine drops too many frames to really watch anything (mpeg & avi files play fine). I've been trying to tweak my video performance, and notice the following errors in my X log: (==) MGA(1): Write-combining range

Juke does not play.

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Hunt
My debian Woody system 2.4.18-bf2.4 is an i686 AMD Duron and I have installed Juke. I cannot "make it go". I have reread the documentation, perhaps I am missing a vital definition or perhaps I am trying to hammer with a wrench. The config file has a line like this for mp3 songs mpg123 -b 1024

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes: > Software can be placed into the public domain by deliberate action of the > (former) copyright holder. The public domain is mentioned in US copyright law only in the context of expiration and there is no evidence of which I am aware that Congress ever considered the possibil

Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-28 Thread Santiago Hirschfeld
Hi, I'm running Woody in my home computer, and i was wondering if it is a good idea to install an antivirus, if it is...what should i use? should i use it to scan mails and files? can someone give me some hints? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-28 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 02:32, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:03:34AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > I got the digest - for less than one week. You can't follow threads with > > it, and it is several big emails a day, at relative

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030328 21:28]: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > > > Yeah, this listmaster-doesn't-r

Re: OT: any GPS tracking software for pc available to track cell phone

2003-03-28 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 05:48:03AM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote: > hi! > > i know this is a little off-topic, but i've googled with no results > (other than PDA's). I now have a cell phone with GPS enabled, but i > cannot find any use for it other than police tracking you in an > emergency! > >

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:47:44PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Shyamal writes: > > Most of the software is already copyrighted. > > _All_ of it is copyrighted. There is no software old enough to have > entered into the public domain. Software can be placed into the public domain by deliberate ac

Re: apt-get: where does the extra "1%3a" come from?

2003-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:32:39PM -0500, Abdul Latip wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Colin Watson wrote: [you're snipping attribution lines too vigorously] > >> Any clue for a workaround? > > You could run dpkg-name on every file in your archive, which would move > > them to their canonical filenam

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > Yeah, this listmaster-doesn't-read-the-list thing is puzzling me. I'd > have thought reading

Re: Acorn A5000

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Williams
Hi, This is wandering dangerously offtopic, but I'll be brief. On 28 Mar 2003, Andrew Ingram wrote: > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 15:25, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > which is why riscOS is so flippin quick and my a3000 boots quicker than > > a 1.1ghz pentium :) > > Exactly! I love Acorn machines and I don'

Re: apt-get: where does the extra "1%3a" come from?

2003-03-28 Thread Abdul Latip
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Colin Watson wrote: >> Any clue for a workaround? > You could run dpkg-name on every file in your archive, which would move > them to their canonical filenames. > > $ dpkg-name gawk_1%3a3.1.2-1_i386.deb > moved `gawk_1%3a3.1.2-1_i386.deb' to `./gawk_3.1.2-1_i386.deb' Th

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Shyamal writes: > Most of the software is already copyrighted. _All_ of it is copyrighted. There is no software old enough to have entered into the public domain. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: installing emacs21 (woody)

2003-03-28 Thread Antonio Gutiérrez Mayoral
Do this: apt-get clean apt-get install xemacs21-mule Regards. El sáb, 29 de 03 de 2003 a las 00:38, Bjoern Schiessle escribió: > Hello, > i have tried to install emacs21 on my Debian woody system with apt-get. > But i get always following message: > > "apt-get install emacs21 > Reading Package

Re: US Robotics Performance Pro PCI Modem on Debian

2003-03-28 Thread Kent West
S Yuval wrote: I've purchased a new US Robotics Performance Pro modem that is guaranteed to run on Linux. According to the manual it should be automatically detected by any kernel newer than 2.3.x. However, the modem isn't detected. According to what I've read in http://www.mail-archive.com/[E

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Old Japanese notebook PC (sony, toshiba) came with nonstandard connectors which required special cable but not DELL. I thought US market demanded industry standard. After all their DELL PC are bulkey? You are correct. The US market absolutely demands the following industry standards: -MS Wind

Solved: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Scott
Gary Hennigan wrote: I had a similar problem with the Moz 1.2 I'm using on my unstable/testing system. The solution that was suggested to me here my a kind user was to get the 1.4 jdk compiled with gcc 3.2 and then I just copied over the java plugin. You can find the a Java 1.4 distribution, compi

Re: LPRng and LaserWriter 8.7.1 Very Slow

2003-03-28 Thread Nate Slater
Thanks for your help, Marc. I'm beginning to see from the LPRng list that new versions of LPRng don't work with Mac OS 9 clients. I'll probably do some shopping around for another LPR server. Just a quick question to everyone on the list before I leave: Do any of you have a favorite LPR server

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread John Hasler
Rudy writes: > But what about e.g. the non free nvidea drivers? These do link with the > Linux kernel, and Linus doesn't mind. ^^ Yes. You _can_ link non-free code with GPL code as long as you have the permission of the copyright owner. You can also link non-

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"adit" == adit y writes: adit> 1. How long is it going to be free ? As long as people respect the license, and the legal system is sufficient to encourage this. Consider donating to support the cause, for example http://members.fsf.org/ as one way enforcing the Gnu Public Licenses that a

SMB Passwords Expire

2003-03-28 Thread Richard Frovarp
I was wondering if some one could point me in the right direction to have SMB stop expiring my passwords. I've had the same problem on stable and unstable. I can't figure out where such a setting would be and how to stop it. It would seem random times are being used. Some users frequently h

installing emacs21 (woody)

2003-03-28 Thread Bjoern Schiessle
Hello, i have tried to install emacs21 on my Debian woody system with apt-get. But i get always following message: "apt-get install emacs21 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: emacs21 emacsen-common 0 packages upgraded, 2

Re: Acorn A5000

2003-03-28 Thread Frank Copeland
On 28 Mar 03 13:49:16 GMT, Paul Grenyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, RiscOS code is extremely compact, and whether Linux can do > anything >> useful in 4MB of RAM I'm not sure. > > I only want to run apache and CVS. Different architectures make more or less efficient use of RAM, but

OT: Paris, France 11-14 April 2003

2003-03-28 Thread martin f krafft
I'll be in Paris from 11 to 14 April of this year. Those interested in signing beers and drinking keys, please reply to me privately; I'll try to arrange a Debian meeting. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :prou

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:50:16PM +, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > > LGPL is slightly different - you can use that code to write whatever you > want and keep what you wrote proprietary. *But* if you change anything > or add anything to the code that was LGPL, you will have to release that > code un

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Friday 28 March 2003 23:15, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:21:49PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > First of all, you get the wrong meaning for copyrighted. Free software is > > copyrighted. Linux, and all GNU softwares are copyrighted. Copyright > > software is not the opposite

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:41:37PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > No, you can't link non-GPL code with GPL code. That counts as a derived I fact, you can't link non-GPL code with GPL code and distribute it (*), but nobody will stop you from linking non- with GPL-code on your own system from private

Re: Debian's release support policy

2003-03-28 Thread ow
> Well, Joey means that he (and the rest of the security team) will > support potato to the best of his ability. The problem is, it was > released 2 and a half years ago, and so much of the software in it is > really hard to support still. Microsoft recently made the news for > claiming that WinN

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
Dude :-) On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:07:08PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:22:22PM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > I can go into any local-owned computer sto

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread Gary Hennigan
gaumer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:28, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: > > I can't get Mozilla 1.3 to recognize the java plugin that I install in > > my PC. I'm running Sid, and I've tried the Blackdown Java and Sun's Java > > run times, both 1.4.1. > > > > With both Java impl

Re: Mozilla 1.3 for Woody?

2003-03-28 Thread dhofstee
Michael Bona wrote: Well, I am all for wild ideas ;-) I am only wondering if my .mozilla directory will become confused, Actually, my moz1.2 regularly f'd up my mailbox into a state where 1.2 would not run anymore. However, opening up the mailbox with 1.01 from debian did the trick and made 1.

US Robotics Performance Pro PCI Modem on Debian

2003-03-28 Thread S Yuval
I've purchased a new US Robotics Performance Pro modem that is guaranteed to run on Linux. According to the manual it should be automatically detected by any kernel newer than 2.3.x. However, the modem isn't detected. According to what I've read in http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Sid + Radeon 7000

2003-03-28 Thread David E. Meiser
Perhaps we can help each other out... I have an ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder and am trying to do direct rendering (DRI Project) and can't seem to figure out how to get the card to actually do the rendering (it defaults to software rendering), even though I have the DRI module loaded on X startup and t

having trouble with ad1816 sound configuration

2003-03-28 Thread Russell Zauner
Hi, The machine is an HP VISUALIZE P700C. It has integrated sound using an AD1816 chip (from the technical reference). I try to load the right module in modconf and get an error, however, I see in many searches on the web that people have had success with the ad1848 modules. The ad1848 modules l

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-28 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Friday 28 March 2003 19:56, Craig Dickson wrote: > Btw, has anyone else found that the English ISO of Knoppix 3.2 for 24 > March 2003 displays a lot of things in German even if you include > "lang=us" in the boot command? Older versions of Knoppix did not do this > to me. OT, but I guess peopl

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread Kent West
gaumer wrote: Suns version of Java does not work on Mozilla builds that used GCC > 3. http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java Get the correct version and all will be fine. Doh! I am _such_ an idiot. I had tried both versions, and Sun's didn't ev

Re: Difference between "woody" and "stable" in apt Default-Release?

2003-03-28 Thread Uwe Storbeck
On Mar 27, Travis Crump wrote: > You're tring to use woody-proposed-updates which is really neither > stable nor woody. If it[pulling woody-proposed-updates] works when you > set Default Release to woody then my suspicion is that it wants a > default release of either stable/testing/unstable a

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-28 Thread Craig Dickson
sean finney wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > > (from a knoppix boot up) > > > # fdisk /dev/hda > > > # mkdir /target > > > (mount all the hard drive partitions into /target, /target/usr, etc...) > > > # debootstrap sid /target > > > (you can do woody inst

Re: reporting a bug

2003-03-28 Thread Kent West
Francis Lau wrote: Hi, I'm quite new at Debian so please bare with me. Hmm; what kind of community is this, anyway? I'm keeping my clothes on . . . :-) Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kernel: eth0

2003-03-28 Thread Sebastian 'Frank©' Wieseler
Hi list, can you help me again? I work with 10Baste2 - Ethernet. I've build a new kernel and my network doesn't work any more. Please help me! $ ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > Yeah, this listmaster-doesn't-read-the-list thing is puzzling me. I'd > have thought rea

mysql db admin

2003-03-28 Thread Koen Dejonghe
Hi, What is the default db admin userid and password for mysql on woody? Thank you, Koen Dejonghe. _ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

US Robotics Performance Pro PCI Modem on Debian

2003-03-28 Thread S Yuval
I've purchased a new US Robotics Performance Pro modem that is guaranteed to run on Linux. According to the manual it should be automatically detected by any kernel newer than 2.3.x. However, the modem isn't detected. According to what I've read in http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:52:35PM +, p wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:06:08AM -0800, adit y wrote: Hi, > > 2. Is there any possibility of this becoming a > > copyrighted software in future ? ( i mean some > > company taking over and saying that only i am the > > owner and only i can m

Re: Kicker

2003-03-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:23:43AM -0700, Francisco Castellon wrote: Hi, please stop the TOFU and use some kind of usefull quoting. Thanks. > I've done that, however what happens in kicker shows up for less than a > second, then disappears again, the only way to do it is to use the Run > command

Re: recomended POP server?

2003-03-28 Thread Aaron Isotton
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:53:10 -0500, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> claimed: [snip > I;ve never set up a POP server before. What packages should I look at? I use courier (package courier-pop) because it uses Maildirs and is very easy to set up (even with SSL support); moreover, there's also courier-ima

Re: God answeres my prayers to get off this list, "NO!", God says,"Your pain must endure forever!!!"

2003-03-28 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Glenn English wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 08:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > But you're right -- why should I (or anyone else here) lower myself to > > eauclair's level. > > Did you notice his domain: optin. Is it possible he > was a one of those who spam the debian lists? No, it's opto

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread Kent West
Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: Hello, I can't get Mozilla 1.3 to recognize the java plugin that I install in my PC. I'm running Sid, and I've tried the Blackdown Java and Sun's Java run times, both 1.4.1. With both Java implementations, after doing the install, I go to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and d

Re: recomended POP server?

2003-03-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:53:10PM -0500, stan wrote: > I give up. Our nw=ew "merged" Is group is unable to run a mail server in a > aceptable manner. > > I;m going to set up a machien to recive mail from various control systems > throught our site. I then want my users to be able to POP this mail

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:21:49PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > First of all, you get the wrong meaning for copyrighted. Free software is > copyrighted. Linux, and all GNU softwares are copyrighted. Copyright software > is not the opposite of free software, we use terms like non-free software, >

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > Yeah, this listmaster-doesn't-read-the-list thing is puzzling me. I'd > have thought rea

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Barak Korren
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:10:27PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:04:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: Oh, as for subscription address, maybe we need to tell outlook user how to read their mail header. People forget

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread Eric Gaumer
Sun's Java doesn't work on versions of Mozilla compiled with GCC > 3. http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java Get the correct version and things will work properly. On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:28, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: > Hello, > > I can't get Mozil

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread gaumer
Sun's Java doesn't work on versions of Mozilla compiled with GCC > 3. http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java Get the correct version and things will work properly. On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:28, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: > Hello, > > I can't get Mozil

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:23:18AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On the other hand, a person who is having > difficulty unsubscribing even after receiving the verbose instruction > letter should be able to ask for help on the list. That's easily dealt with. Have the auto-reply trigger only on

Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java plugin

2003-03-28 Thread gaumer
Suns version of Java does not work on Mozilla builds that used GCC > 3. http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/whichjava.html http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java Get the correct version and all will be fine. On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:28, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: > Hello, > > I can't get Mozilla 1.3

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-28 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:27:49PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:16:44PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > It's just begging me to get a domain name... > > http://www.dyndns.org/ You don't even need a static IP. Hehe! Thanks! I'm already on it. I'd heard of dyndns some cou

Re: Acron A5000

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Grenyer
Hi > Exactly! I love Acorn machines and I don't think I would have gone into IT > without the exposure to them that I had at a young age. I still own a > BBC B, A3000, A5000 and RiscPC (with 200Mhz StrongARM and RiscOS 3.5). The > RiscPC was an awesome creation with it's dual processors (and one o

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:10:27PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > >Or, we could require users to pass some sort of comprehension test > >before successfully subscribing to the list > > > > Actullay implementing this test will be real easy, just cancel the web > subscrip

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-28 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > (from a knoppix boot up) > > # fdisk /dev/hda > > # mkdir /target > > (mount all the hard drive partitions into /target, /target/usr, etc...) > > # debootstrap sid /target > > (you can do woody instead of sid if you want stable) > >

Re: Mozilla 1.3 for Woody?

2003-03-28 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 09:45, Michael Bona wrote: > Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 12:57, Michael Bona wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> does anyone know a source for Mozilla Version 1.3 for Woody? Apt-get.org > >> does not seem to list any and I am really looking forward to the new > >>

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:26:47AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > Yes, I realize that there are instructions in every message that gets > > posted

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:39:16AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:04:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Does anyone see problem forwarding [EMAIL PROTECTED] mails > > with "unsubscribe" to be filtered from this list and to be forwarded to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? > > I do

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 16:06, adit y wrote: [...] > So are there any tabs here in linux where it can not > become not free in future. so any gpl derived software > needs to be gpled but what about the other way, can > you start including non gpled software ,closed sourced > modules in gpled software

Re: [OT, DSW] Appropriate transportation

2003-03-28 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 00:15, Paul Johnson wrote: > Read my first paragraph. I'm not against autos in all instances, I'm > just saying it has it's niche but far too many people ignore that > niche and use it as the end-all, be-all in transportation, to the > extreme detriment of the standard of liv

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
As a perennial budget-limited fixer/upgrader of not-quite-new PC's, I just don't want to know these brand-name bleeding-edge nobody-else's-bits-fit 'top name' brands. Dell, Compaq, HP, IBM you can keep 'em.Give me a Joe's Computer Shop special assembled from off-the-shelf bits any day.

Re: System Slows Down

2003-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:31:17PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > Anyway the way I'd prefer to do it is to simply remove the package > that put the job there in the first place since chances are it > wouldn't work witout the cronjob anyway. man-db will work fine without its cron job; apropos and wha

Re: Webmin revisited

2003-03-28 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don't you need to add "webmin 1" to /etc/services? > No. Not on Debian at least. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-28 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Friday 28 March 2003 18:06, adit y wrote: > Since i started liking the Debian Linux, i started > thinking about Linux in general and thus some > questions about linux in the long term. OK, welcome to the free software world Note: in all my sentences, free means free as in freedom. > 1. How

Re: Webmin revisited

2003-03-28 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Glenn English wrote: > Another possibility: it's http, not https > unless the OP specifically changed that, it's not likely. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: synaptic issues...

2003-03-28 Thread ZephyrQ
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 10:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 27 Mar 2003 23:24:49 -0600 > ZephyrQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > problem?). I checked /var/cache/apt and most of the files have been > > downloaded--but when I re-run synaptic to install the debs, it gives > > me a seg fault. > > >

Re: System Slows Down

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:32:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:41:09 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:44:38AM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > > > 2. The right way to configure crontab it to use the contab (1) > > > command.

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-28 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:06:39AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:30:36PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:31PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > This is a reply to this email as received in digest mode. I use mutt > > > to read my mail. In mu

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. Yeah, this listmaster-doesn't-read-the-list thing is puzzling me. I'd have thought reading the list was an essential prerequisite for being the listmaster

Re: Why is my kernel broken?

2003-03-28 Thread JS Bangs
> > trying to install is 2.4.16-k7, which is appropriate for my hardware. I > > can get and install the package without incident, and everything appears > > to be configured as it should be a whole slew of: > > > > modprobe: cannot locate dependencies file > > /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/modules.dep--n

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