Re: Re: gnome installation help

2003-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Edward, thanks for trying to help, I know I wasn't very specific. I've successfully installed Debian 3.01 woody with the 'vanilla' option on a Dell Precision 410 workstation. Everything works at the command line, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, anything. However, I've tried with several video c

Re: Messed Up Console Dialogs

2003-11-13 Thread Jacob S.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:09:09 -0600 "Jacob S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to get a mouse wheel to work in XWindows on a potato box > and causing colateral damage at the same time. :-) Oops... I meant Woody. It's running Debian 3.0r1 with all the security updates, etc. Time to get som

Re: (newbie) Still no network...

2003-11-13 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
On 03-11-14 00:41 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:48:45PM -0500, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: > > > BTW, is there a program analogous to RedHat's chkconfig? > > Never heard of it, but there are some nifty kernel-building helper tools > in Debian. The above-linked guide assumes you

Messed Up Console Dialogs

2003-11-13 Thread Jacob S.
I'm trying to get a mouse wheel to work in XWindows on a potato box and causing colateral damage at the same time. :-) Noticing there was not XF86Config-4 file, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and when it asked if I wanted the config file handled by debconf, I said yes. It was working great

Re: (newbie) Still no network...

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:46:06PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > Hi Kevin, > >please wrap you lines at 72 characters. > > * Kevin Krumwiede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031114 13:50]: > > I've installed 3.0r1 a few times now on my laptop, and I'm still > > running into problems. I used apt-get to

Re: (newbie) Still no network...

2003-11-13 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi Kevin, please wrap you lines at 72 characters. * Kevin Krumwiede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031114 13:50]: > I've installed 3.0r1 a few times now on my laptop, and I'm still > running into problems. I used apt-get to install a newer > kernel-image and matching kernel-pcmcia-modules. It boots

Re: (newbie) Still no network...

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:48:45PM -0500, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: Please set your mailer's linewrap to something sane. Less than 80 chars. 72 or 75 seem to be very popular. > I've installed 3.0r1 a few times now on my laptop, and I'm still > running into problems. I used apt-get to install a newe

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-13 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 03:56, Joe Rhett wrote: > > Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. > > The really funny thing about this whole topic is that we've now come full > circle. Read the subject line. Well, apt-get simply is no package manager. At least not in th

Re: OT: Drugs (was Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong --)

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:39:56PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > Now you're just contradicting yourself. You're also handing me the > point I've been trying to make on a platter. > After claiming that it's blatant hypocrisy to treat different drugs > differently, now you're saying "except for this one

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 20:58, David Palmer. wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:15:18 -0800 > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:18:34PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:45, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:42:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:21, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > BruceG wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

(newbie) Still no network...

2003-11-13 Thread Kevin Krumwiede
I've installed 3.0r1 a few times now on my laptop, and I'm still running into problems. I used apt-get to install a newer kernel-image and matching kernel-pcmcia-modules. It boots, but pcmcia won't load and I have no network. Assuming I start with a fresh install, what commands should I run t

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-13 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:05:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.13.0439 +0100]: > > Unstable's current a2ps is (a) broken wrt paper sizes, (b) is currently > > without libpaper support. You need to downgrade to the non-CVS-in-the-name > > ver

Re: Stock 2.4.16 kernel, initrd and ext3 [SOLVED]

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:25:42PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've been wanting to switch from ext2 to ext3 on this machine, including > > the root filesystem. > > > > I'm using the stock Debian 2.4.16-i686 kernel, which (according to > > /boot/config-

Re: freelance sysadmining - boxes

2003-11-13 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, ScruLoose wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > > O

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread Mike Mueller
On Thursday 13 November 2003 13:31, Gary Hennigan wrote: > This is all apart from the hardware/BIOS clock. The hardware clock > only matters at boot time and shutdown time. Once you get the time set > correctly in Linux you can synch your hardware clock using the > command: > >     hwclock --systoh

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-13 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:42:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:21, Benedict Verheyen wrote: BruceG wrote: - Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: wireless

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I tried minicom as I remember I reported the results the first time they were the same this time. I started KDE and selected the terminal read the man page for minicom not much help there. issued su and input

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-13 Thread Joe Rhett
> > > Kernel updates go in pretty quickly, as a rule. wireless-tools is up to > > > date in testing, and linux-wlan-ng is only a fraction behind unstable. > > > > Why isn't it showing me these? > > Kernel package names change, therefore package management tools don't > upgrade them automatically

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: Got the networking going. WooHoo. Excellent. Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. Or you could let the downloading occur while you're watching cartoons. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-13 Thread Joe Rhett
> Please, stop complaining, and do your research Actually, your comments here are demonstrating just how inadequate the apt-get documentation is. Because I read through it a dozen times -- and was already making notes to suggest cleaning it up -- and I never saw anything about the 'policy' comma

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-13 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:15:18 -0800 Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:18:34PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39P

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Friday 14 November 2003 00:44, Kevin Coyner wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:40:11PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote.. > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > > I need to (legimately) rip a few 30 sec clips from some DVD's where I > > > truly own the rights. The 30 sec clips

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-13 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:01 Subject: Re: Installing modem. > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > >From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>So all you need to do is create a similar f

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-13 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:42:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:21, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > BruceG wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:39 PM > > > Sub

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > On these, I would sell Sarge. > And charge extra for

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > On these, I would sell Sarge. > And charge extra for

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > I have a CST6CDT in this directory, but it doesn't show up in tzconfig > (unless you choose SYSV). (I hope it changes OK next spring). Please file a bug report. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

OT: Drugs (was Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong --)

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:38:12PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > Regarding any one drug as being just the same as any other makes no more > > sense than prescribing morphine for an infection or penicillin for a > > migraine. > > Yeah, but I fin

Environment variables setting on startup

2003-11-13 Thread Jochen Daum
Hi ! I would need some environment variables set for database access in PHP on my Apache server. I cannot seem to nail down the problem. Here's a description: The variables are neede for a) Informix - to connect to the server (INFORMIXDIR, INFORMIXSERVER) b) freetds - to set up the right version

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. On these, I would sell Sarge. And charge extra for anything else. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:58:42AM -0800, Jigga Man wrote: >Sorry to directly send you an email but i dont know > how to reply to the mailing list. Most modern mail readers include a Reply-to-List option. Use this. If that fails, hit reply and ch

Re: Rebooting problem

2003-11-13 Thread ajlewis2
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: > Hi all, > I'm a debian newbie. Last night I've download the debian-installer beta. > With a litle luck I got it to install the base system. Now comes the > problem. I have 3 HDs the boot HD has Grub and XP on it. The 2nd HD has > Debian on it. With LILO install on

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-13 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op do 13-11-2003, om 02:12 schreef BruceG: > For the wireless bridge to work, it would need to connect to a WAP (wireless > access point). Since your Server is upstairs, you could do something like > this (assuming your cable or DSL is dropped off with an Ethernet connection, > not USB): > > DS

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op vr 14-11-2003, om 00:44 schreef Mark Healey: > Got the networking going. WooHoo. > > Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days > start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. > > One minor question set. > > 1) The backspace key doesn't work in vi.

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-13 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Arnt Karlsen wrote: dont give up on providing tech support etc... how to get going and where to start is the trick .. - its not about $20/month or $50/year... - to me, its about solving the customer ( with cash ) what they are looking for, and as time goes o

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread David
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:57:13AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > jigga writes: > > this time is still one hour off ..its says local time is 11:44 when its > > actully 10:44 here ... > > Use the 'date' command as previously explained to set the time. > > > i didnt find any specific option for daylig

Re: Free-lance - office move stuff-o-rama

2003-11-13 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 02:20, BruceG wrote: > Yeah, OOo for Windows might be a great start! I burned an OOo 1.1.0 RC2 CD. > Will need to burn a new CD, and maybe pick up a user's guide. > At any rate, it worked for me. When I started my business a few years ago I deliberatly chose Staroffice (v5.2

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
Got the networking going. WooHoo. Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. One minor question set. 1) The backspace key doesn't work in vi. Is this some kind of terminal settings problem or an nvi problem

Re: mutt, key bindings and debian mailing lists

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 05:03:35PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:42:09AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be easier to use mutt's builtin support for mailing lists? > > > > Add the line > > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > somewhere in your .muttrc,

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: That's the problem. My nic isn't listed. The Tigon3 is listed but not the 4401. I couldn't find out how to include a module that isn't listed but for which one has the source. Is there any significant reason to prefer having it in the kernel as opposed to just having it instal

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:25:07PM -0600, Rick Weinbender wrote: > I found a good beginners link to pinning. > http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html (please don't top-post. It's bad for the readability of a thread, and is considered bad manners) I really think if it's a simple one-packa

Re: problem in screen resolution at 1024*768

2003-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:26:22 -0500, Bill Benedetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> Rafael Quintanilla writes: > > Rafa> I recently installed debian from a Knoppix 3.3 > Rafa> catalan. The problem is that I want to have a 1024*768 > Rafa> resolution (BTW my

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:41:46PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), Mark Healey wrote: > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >Is there any significant reason to prefer having it in the kernel as > >opposed to just having it installed at boot

Re: OT: Where Best to Express My Rage at M$

2003-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:46:33 -0500, "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I plan to send copies of the body of this message to the presidents of > Systemax and Tiger Direct, my senators, my congressmen and any one ..tip off IBM, Microsoft funds SCO for

upgrading packages that are in use, especially X or gnome

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
I know you don't need to reboot after you apt-get upgrade, but I'm a bit curious about upgrading packages that are in use. I knowly vaguely that the kernel allows you to replace executables that are in use so "it all works", but I have questions. *Services like cupsys or inetd seem to stop, do

How to set up XDM to automatically login one user?

2003-11-13 Thread Lance Simmons
I've got Debian running on an old tablet computer, and I'd like to have it start an X session for me as soon as I boot up. (There's only one user, me.) The xdm manpage is mysterious to me; does anyone know how to do what I'm seeking? Currently, xdm seems to require a keyboard to log in, but I mo

Re: how to do a clean upgrade without losing packages?

2003-11-13 Thread Kenward Vaughan
I believe most of your concern is unjustified, as packages tend to get reorganized over time or replaced by appropriate alternatives (renamed, etc.). There may be some which no longer exist, but I don't {know if | believe} they would be excised for that reason. You might check the contents of some

Re: Text processing help (sed?)

2003-11-13 Thread Ashish
BruceG wrote: Hey all, not a Debian specific question. I am working with some CSV files. Daily extracts. I was able to combine them all with cat, then yank out the records I needed and popped then in a smaller file using grep. Finally yanked duplicates using sort < file | uniq -d Now comes the ha

Re: Disaster recovery help, please

2003-11-13 Thread stan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:10:26PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:03, stan wrote: > > > Last night I was peacefully using my happy little Debian machine, > > > when it froze. To make a log sad story short, it was a cataos

Re: Disaster recovery help, please

2003-11-13 Thread stan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:58:31PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:03, stan wrote: > > Last night I was peacefully using my happy little Debian machine, > > when it froze. To make a log sad story short, it was a cataostrophic > > disc failure (still in waranty it turns ou

Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:18:34PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > > > I have mixed feelings. One

Re: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 question (solved)

2003-11-13 Thread Jimmy Johansson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:18:11PM +0100, Jimmy Johansson wrote: > I tried to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 yesterday expecting it to > create a new XF86Config-4 file, but it didn't. Hi and thank you for all your replies, they helped me indirectly. I read them and then set out to try again.

Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread duck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:26:23PM +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote: > Am Don, 2003-11-13 um 20.53 schrieb duck: > > As before, since it's all built in to the kernel, you don't really > > need /etc/modules. In /etc/lilo.conf I think you need following in > > your append line: > > > > hdc=ide-scsi i

Re: printer icon

2003-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:26:21 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:07, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >>i can not find a print icon on web sight

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-13 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:40:11PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote.. > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I need to (legimately) rip a few 30 sec clips from some DVD's where I > > truly own the rights. The 30 sec clips will be used on our website > > where we advertise the DVD's

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), Mark Healey wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >>Mark Healey wrote: >> >>>After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that >>>didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to >>>just do the ni

dpkg error

2003-11-13 Thread Simon Tod
Hi. I was in the process of purging a package when I accidently killed the process. Now, when I try 'apt-get --purge remove ftape-util' I get the error dpkg: error processing ftape-util (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.

Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: [snip] > Regarding any one drug as being just the same as any other makes no more > sense than prescribing morphine for an infection or penicillin for a > migraine. Yeah, but I find it useful to concede to the anti-drug people the fact th

Re: freelance sysadmining [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]

2003-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:11:36 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:32:46AM -0500, BruceG wrote: > > Anyway - you might want to include a few distributions, as not > > everyone may be interested in Debian. I found Mandrake, SuSE

gliv segfaults

2003-11-13 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi all, Since several days I'm trying to run gliv, and all I get is a "Segmentation fault". I've already been at the the powerpc list with the problem ... no solution so far .. System: Debian 3.0. r1, testing/unstable on powerpc gliv: Installed: 1.7.1-1 I already downgraded gliv to 1.6-2, which

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: > >>After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that >>didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to >>just do the nic module as installable. >> >>Since I had the source for the new kern

Questions about xprint

2003-11-13 Thread Bill Moseley
pn mozilla (no description available) ii xprt4.2.1-13X print server (XFree86 version) ii xprt-common 0.0.8.cvs20030508-6 Xprint - the X11 print system (configuration files) ii xprt-xprintorg 0.0.8.cvs20030508-6 Xprint - the X1

Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread Palfalvi Richard
Am Don, 2003-11-13 um 20.53 schrieb duck: > Sorry. My mistake. I presume you're running 2.4.18-bf2.4 or some other > similar pre-packaged kernel where sr_mod and scsi_mod are compiled > into the kernel. Hence these modules do not need to be loaded. Yes, I do (its the 2.4.18-bf2.4 Kernel which c

Re: not in sid yet? - CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH

2003-11-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:40, bruce edge wrote: > Looks like this is only available in woody: > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-24.html > http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-382 > http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-383 > > Is there no fix for sid yet? What do you mean, it has been

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-13 Thread ben
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:05:52 +0200 Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thats some indication but what you should be looking at is the memory > usage. Here eye candy can cause a lot more cost that what shows up in > the package size. It also depends on the toolkit libraries used. > right n

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 13 November 2003 20:00, Rick Weinbender wrote: > I'm running the current stable version > and I need to install a package from > an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). > (the unstable package does work with woody). Not really an answer to your question, but have you checked for backports

Re: wireless configuration questions

2003-11-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:41:22PM -0700, Tim Folger wrote: > Thanks again for all your help. I'll try to tackle it this weekend. With > any luck debian will soon be my main os. ... > >>, so I think I'll wait for the (imminent?) release > >>of sarge and then start over again. Assuming I'm able to

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Rick Weinbender
I found a good beginners link to pinning. http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html Thanks, -Rick *** Greg Madden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:00 am, Rick Weinbender wrote: > > I'm running the current stable

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2003-11-13 Thread mhebert
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Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 21:08, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:15:29PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:34:19 + > > Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > PWM, or ION (pwm, ion, ion-devel packages) > > > > > As I suggested before, Icewm. >

Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]

2003-11-13 Thread donw
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > I have mixed feelings. One the one hand, I read about China's opium > > wars in the 1800s, and see a fa

Text processing help (sed?)

2003-11-13 Thread BruceG
Hey all, not a Debian specific question. I am working with some CSV files. Daily extracts. I was able to combine them all with cat, then yank out the records I needed and popped then in a smaller file using grep. Finally yanked duplicates using sort < file | uniq -d Now comes the hard part. Each r

Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > Another lesson learnt here: stay off the pot. At a later age you > > will not be able to count past 4. :-) just couldn't help it. > > I haven't touched it for 5 years, onc

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > I need to (legimately) rip a few 30 sec clips from some DVD's where I > truly own the rights. The 30 sec clips will be used on our website > where we advertise the DVD's for sale (bicycling workouts - > spinervals.com for those interested). > > C

not in sid yet? - CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH

2003-11-13 Thread bruce edge
Looks like this is only available in woody: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-24.html http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-382 http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-383 Is there no fix for sid yet? -Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

how to do a clean upgrade without losing packages?

2003-11-13 Thread abo
Title: Nachricht hi,   I want to upgrade from stable to unstable. I changend my sources.list and apt.conf and run a 'apt-get update'.   with 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' I would lose these packages:   The following packages will be REMOVED:  console-tools-libs igerman kdebase kdebase-libs kdel

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:28, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 07:44, Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:58:46PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > > > This WM was mentioned by a poster on this list a month or so ago. At > > > the time I was using sawfish, but was getting sick o

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Rick Weinbender
I did try editing my sources.list file, (commenting out all stable sources, then adding 2 lines of unstable) then running apt-get update. This seems to work when I run 'apt-get install tmda'. But, When I put back my old stable sources.list the way it was and run apt-get update, I get lots of error

Re: Stock 2.4.16 kernel, initrd and ext3

2003-11-13 Thread David Z Maze
ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been wanting to switch from ext2 to ext3 on this machine, including > the root filesystem. > > I'm using the stock Debian 2.4.16-i686 kernel, which (according to > /boot/config-2.4.16-686) has ext3 support _as a module_... 2.4.*16*? That's really old;

Re: problems with cdwriter on woody-system

2003-11-13 Thread duck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:38:09PM +0100, Palfalvi Richard wrote: > Am Mit, 2003-11-12 um 21.37 schrieb duck: > > > I think you need scsi_mod and sr_mod (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I > > have also included the relevant bits from dmesg below. > > When I did "insmod sr_mod" or insmod scsi_m

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 06:38:40PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > the default look kinda sucks though... it can be changed completely > (take a lok at www.fvwm.org) There is a great article about window-manager choices, and fvwm advocacy at http://www.igs.net/~tril/fvwm/ -- Jon Dowland http://

sylpheed-claws/unstable trouble: ssl/gpg support missing?

2003-11-13 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hello, I've been using sylpheed-claws/unstable (together with sylpheed-claws-plugins/unstable and dependants) VERY happily on my testing system for a while now. Recently I caused some mess on my system and had to reinstall it afterwards ... Linux gives you the power to screw up whatever you feel l

Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]

2003-11-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Another lesson learnt here: stay off the pot. At a later age you > will not be able to count past 4. :-) just couldn't help it. I haven't touched it for 5 years, once I realized I'm still same old boring me with it or without it

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:00 am, Rick Weinbender wrote: > I'm running the current stable version > and I need to install a package from > an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). > (the unstable package does work with woody). > * > Is there a way to i

Re: gnome installation help

2003-11-13 Thread Edward Murrell
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 05:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, I'm trying to run Gnome and XFree86 on my > Debian box, a Dell Precision. > > The Debian command line works great. > However, I can't get Gnome working properly no matter > how many times I try variations on apt-get install > . I

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:15:29PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:34:19 + > Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PWM, or ION (pwm, ion, ion-devel packages) > > > As I suggested before, Icewm. If I reply with, 'As I suggested before, PWM.', when will it stop?

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Rick Weinbender wrote: I'm running the current stable version and I need to install a package from an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). (the unstable package does work with woody). * Is there a way to install an unstable package on stable distro from the command line. * Someone suggested 'apt-get -t

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Rick Weinbender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm running the current stable version > and I need to install a package from > an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). > (the unstable package does work with woody). > * > Is there a way to install an unstable package on > stable distro from the command

Re: apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:00:36PM -0600, Rick Weinbender wrote: > I'm running the current stable version > and I need to install a package from > an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). > (the unstable package does work with woody). > * > Is there a way to install an unstable package on > stable distr

apt-get unstable question

2003-11-13 Thread Rick Weinbender
I'm running the current stable version and I need to install a package from an unstable source (tmda ver.0.86). (the unstable package does work with woody). * Is there a way to install an unstable package on stable distro from the command line. * Someone suggested 'apt-get -t unstable install tmda'

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:57, John Hasler wrote: > jigga writes: > > this time is still one hour off ..its says local time is 11:44 when its > > actully 10:44 here ... > > Use the 'date' command as previously explained to set the time. > Sorry: I already deleted the first messages in this thread,

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Jigga Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Sorry to directly send you an email but i dont know > how to reply to the mailing list. when i click the > reply to link it gives a dialog box saying mailto > protocl not registered. Anyways Thank you very much > for your time to help me with my problem

Re: problem in screen resolution at 1024*768

2003-11-13 Thread Bill Benedetto
>>> Rafael Quintanilla writes: Rafa> I recently installed debian from a Knoppix 3.3 Rafa> catalan. The problem is that I want to have a 1024*768 Rafa> resolution (BTW my monitor is a 15" SyncMaster 551S, Rafa> samsung, with a recommeded refresh vertical rate of 85 Rafa> Hz). I obtain onl

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-13 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:25:19PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 08:33:02PM +, Pigeon wrote: > (c) running costs for > > the sort of vehicle that gets you from A to B legally but no more > > $150, tops, and that's if you're as hard on a bike as I am I just broke th

Re: Securing Debian

2003-11-13 Thread Rick Weinbender
Thanks for the help! -Rick ** Rick Weinbender wrote: > I have an email server (qmail running on debian), > that I need to make as secure as possible. > Can anyone point me to some good links that > relate to security? > > Has anyone used bastille? What do you think > of it? > > Thanks, > -Ri

Stock 2.4.16 kernel, initrd and ext3

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
Howdy. I've been wanting to switch from ext2 to ext3 on this machine, including the root filesystem. I'm using the stock Debian 2.4.16-i686 kernel, which (according to /boot/config-2.4.16-686) has ext3 support _as a module_... Now, my understanding is that this kernel uses initrd, and thus it'll

Re: migrating /home to a new partition

2003-11-13 Thread
Quoting ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > anyone know how to safely migrate /home to a new partition? i've googled > and checked the archives but can't find appropriate info. > > all clues gratefully appreciated. > There have been a number of postings, including on this list, on how to do this that a

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-13 Thread John Hasler
jigga writes: > this time is still one hour off ..its says local time is 11:44 when its > actully 10:44 here ... Use the 'date' command as previously explained to set the time. > i didnt find any specific option for daylight savings time... There is none. It isn't needed. The system knows all

Re: problem in screen resolution at 1024*768

2003-11-13 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Rafael Quintanilla (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I recently installed debian from a Knoppix 3.3 > catalan. The problem is that I want to have a 1024*768 > resolution (BTW my monitor is a 15" SyncMaster 551S, > samsung, with a recommeded refresh vertical rate of 85 > Hz). I obtain only a 80

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