Re: keep x session open

2004-02-09 Thread techlists
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 23:46, Kent West wrote: > techlists wrote: > > >I am running Sid with KDE, and was wondering if I am logged in and have > >some programs running, is there a way for someone else to log into x on > >the same terminal, without shutting down the programs I have running? > >that

Re: Getting the same USB device? *multiple webcams*

2004-02-09 Thread No Spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin C. Smith wrote: That's a wonderful script. Now if I could find a way to do that with a 12 webcam security system, I'd have it made. As it is, whenever 1 is unplugged, or if there's a power failure, they are randomly reassigned video0 throu

Re: Rejecting viruses the Right Way[tm]

2004-02-09 Thread Edward J. Shornock
Steve Lamb wrote: Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: If a message is either rejected (during the SMTP dialog) or bounced (after accepting and queueing the message) then the same innocent third party receives some junk mail.[1] The difference is only in which server is sending the bounce message.

Re: Problem getting sound to work

2004-02-09 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: That was a disaster. I installed the package [gmix] and there were no errors. I then typed gmix and the the top and bottom task bars stopped responding to mouse clicks or redrawing when something is placed over them and subsequently moved. Fortunately I still had the terminal

Re: How Do I Start the Debian GUI

2004-02-09 Thread Kent West
Richard Blake wrote: Hello, In a Newbie to Debian... and for maybe... 4 hours I thought Debian was a text based OS. I recently ordered Debian for my I686 System... and I went through the installation.. 4 or 5 times I kinda lost count... I thought I was doing it wrong... and there is a

Re: How Do I Start the Debian GUI

2004-02-09 Thread No Spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Blake wrote: Hello, In a Newbie to Debian... and for maybe... 4 hours I thought Debian was a text based OS. I recently ordered Debian for my I686 System... and I went through the installation.. 4 or 5 times I kinda lost count... I

Re: test

2004-02-09 Thread newsletter
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Re: Problem getting sound to work

2004-02-09 Thread Mark Healey
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 09:16:36 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: >Hello > >Mark Healey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > >> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 09:18:24 -0600, Kent West wrote: >>>Mark Healey wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:21:09 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: >Mark Healey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

Re: keep x session open

2004-02-09 Thread Kent West
techlists wrote: I am running Sid with KDE, and was wondering if I am logged in and have some programs running, is there a way for someone else to log into x on the same terminal, without shutting down the programs I have running? that way when they are finished, I can re-log in and continue where

PS/2 mouse not working after upgrade to kernel 2.6.0

2004-02-09 Thread Kevin Wortman
Greetings, I am running Debian testing on an i686. I have a (corded) Logitech TrackMan Marble FX PS/2 trackball which works perfectly with kernel 2.4.24 from testing. I installed kernel-image-2.6.0-1-686, and when I start X I get the following error: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /

Re: Getting the same USB device?

2004-02-09 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:42:56AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-09, Norman Walsh penned: > > --=-=-= > > > > I have three or four "plug in" devices: a firewire PCMCIA card and > > several USB devices. Depending on the order in which they're added to > > the system, they get installe

[baloo: Re: How Do I Start the Debian GUI]

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, now you got me doing it... - - Forwarded message from baloo - Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:29:22 -0800 To: Richard Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How Do I Start the Debian GUI Organization: Ursine System X-Operating-System-Uptime: 21

keep x session open

2004-02-09 Thread techlists
I am running Sid with KDE, and was wondering if I am logged in and have some programs running, is there a way for someone else to log into x on the same terminal, without shutting down the programs I have running? that way when they are finished, I can re-log in and continue where I left with the p

Re: Permissions

2004-02-09 Thread Johann Koenig
On Monday February 9 at 07:45pm Joshua Jankowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I have been quite intelligent in setting permissions on my debian > server, I am here to see if anyone has a solution. In my attempt to > write recursive permissions on one of my directories, I hit enter a > little

Re: How Do I Start the Debian GUI

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:01:56AM -0500, Richard Blake wrote: > In a Newbie to Debian... and for maybe... 4 hours I thought Debian > was a text based OS. Well, Linux is a text-based OS. XFree86 is a nice program that gives you a pretty dar

Re: kppp configure question

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 06:56:29PM -0700, Mike Adolf wrote: > I would like to use kppp (in KDE) to establish an internet connection. When I > execute it, as root, I get the following: > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is

Re: Problem getting sound to work

2004-02-09 Thread Mark Healey
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 09:32:41 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >On 2004-02-07, Mark Healey penned: >> >> How do I do those? It also doesn't work as root. And, another bit of >> information. When I try system sounds there is nothing. When I try >> xmms it hangs (xmms, not the system). > >Hrm. I h

How Do I Start the Debian GUI

2004-02-09 Thread Richard Blake
Hello, In a Newbie to Debian... and for maybe... 4 hours I thought Debian was a text based OS. I recently ordered Debian for my I686 System... and I went through the installation.. 4 or 5 times I kinda lost count... I thought I was doing it wrong... and there is a great possiblity that

Re: using packages from experimental

2004-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:40:59PM -0800, Nano Nano said > I installed XFree86 4.3 from experimental. > Will it "update" itself whenever a newer 4.3 is uploaded? Not from experimental, at least by default. When it hits sid, then apt will keep up to date with it. If you really want to keep up wit

using packages from experimental

2004-02-09 Thread Nano Nano
I installed XFree86 4.3 from experimental. Will it "update" itself whenever a newer 4.3 is uploaded? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kppp configure question

2004-02-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Mike Adolf: > I would like to use kppp (in KDE) to establish an internet connection. When I > execute it, as root, I get the following: > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > kppp: cannot connect to X server :0.0 > >

Re: X4.3 (Again)

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:02:15PM -0600, Hank Marquardt wrote: > > you should _really_ ask yourself why you are going to X4.3: unless it > > has better support (or in my case... the only support of my card), there > > really isn't much benefit in the upgrade. > > > Well, I've had this darned Rade

Re: music mixing

2004-02-09 Thread Roy Pluschke
On February 9, 2004 07:10 pm, techlists wrote: > Hey guys, I'm looking for something I can use to edit and mix music. > Under Winblows I used Reason. But I have yet to find a linux > equivalent. > > I looked on freshmeat, and found a program called Veejay, but I can't > seem to get it to compile u

Re: video card compatibility

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:14:58AM -0500, Ashley Mervyn Graham wrote: > >Radeon 9200 for $80. I got mine (actually a 9000 for $89 last July) > >from Thompson's Computer Warehouse[1] > >(http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=2396&[EMAIL > >PROTECTED]). > > > >The 9200 is sup

odd errors in dmesg log

2004-02-09 Thread George
Current System: os[Linux 2.6.2-mm1 i686] cpu[AMD Duron(tm) processor @ 799 MHz] video[nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro]] sound[Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1] Linux Debian-testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.2-mm1, GNU/Linux XFree86: 4.2.1.1 - found these errors using 'dmesg | less' : 1

Re: [OT] ABI vs. API

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 04:03:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-08, Alan Chandler penned: > > On Sunday 08 February 2004 20:49, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> On 2004-02-08, Alan Chandler penned: > > On the other hand, it is also possible for two different > >> > languages to be us

Re: [OT] ABI vs. API

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 01:49:03PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-08, Alan Chandler penned: > > On Sunday 08 February 2004 19:12, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> On 2004-02-04, Colin Watson penned: > > > >> > An ABI is the interface to a library as seen by compiled code. To > >> > figur

Re: window managers with maximize-vertical?

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:38:26AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 06:55:39PM +1100, Tim Connors wrote: > > I don't use gnome, so no idea, although I did notice a few seconds ago > > that some worthless peice of crap in gnome changed my background - how > > are you meant to chan

Re: laptop HW detection Q (isa/video/cpu)

2004-02-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:54:45PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Micha Feigin: > > I ran several hardware detection programs on my laptop and I seen to > > have some indiscrepancies that I was wondering about and hoping some > > can give me more info about or point me at a better directi

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:29:35AM +, Sam Halliday wrote: > > varicad is a joke for serious work... speak to an expert, and they > > will tell you the same thing. even autocad is described as "too > > simplistic" by a few mechanical engineers i know, and architects >

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:29:35AM +, Sam Halliday wrote: > varicad is a joke for serious work... speak to an expert, and they will > tell you the same thing. even autocad is described as "too simplistic" > by a few mechanical engineers i know, and architects (REAL architects, > not "extension

music mixing

2004-02-09 Thread techlists
Hey guys, I'm looking for something I can use to edit and mix music. Under Winblows I used Reason. But I have yet to find a linux equivalent. I looked on freshmeat, and found a program called Veejay, but I can't seem to get it to compile under SID. So, I'm wondering if any of you guys have expe

Re: sftp sources?

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Cristian Gutierrez wrote: > [ftp/http is bandwidth limited on university network, ssh isn't > limited] > > [idea: tunnel ftp/http via ssh and a remote friendly proxy] > > [step by step instructions] excellent! thanks for the help... i think we can probably sort something out for them! :-D the sy

kppp configure question

2004-02-09 Thread Mike Adolf
I would like to use kppp (in KDE) to establish an internet connection. When I execute it, as root, I get the following: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server kppp: cannot connect to X server :0.0 What is it telling me? How do I authoriz

Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Roy Pluschke
On February 9, 2004 05:53 pm, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Roy - thanks for all the info! I've had timidity installed and working for > years, but I gather it does more than I thought. I might be able to get by > with it after all. Am I correct in assuming that with ALSA my MIDI H/W > ports are probably

Re: sftp sources?

2004-02-09 Thread Cristian Gutierrez
Sam Halliday wrote: [ftp/http is bandwidth limited on university network, ssh isn't limited] [idea: tunnel ftp/http via ssh and a remote friendly proxy] >interesting, > >ok, i think this could work, ill try to set it up for them on my >machine to see, for now. anyone got any hints where i can re

Re: X4.3 (Again)

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Brian Nelson wrote: > Sam Halliday writes: > > i just had this exact same problem... i got around it by using > > aptitude and pretty much adding every X4.3 package i could find > > before hitting`g'... > Er, why? The only 4.3 package you really need is xserver-xfree86. DRI etc etc... and the ne

Re: X4.3 (Again)

2004-02-09 Thread Brian Nelson
Sam Halliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hank Marquardt wrote: >> I've added experimental to list.sources, I've update and even upgraded >> today so the system is current, here's my current X inventory: > > [ snip lots of 4.2.1-16 stuff ] > >> What I'm concerned with is that if I enumerate all t

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Mike M
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:04:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as > disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run > debootstrap in that directory and install a basic system. > > I then chroot into it and then updat

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Nate Duehr wrote: > While you may be very intelligent regarding CAD software, you sure > seem willing to attack people like myself who are only pointing out > alternatives that ARE Linux-related on a Linux mailing list, and then > claiming that *I* took the conversation off-topic? Wow. Quite bo

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:25:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > I think live-cds demonstrate the easy-to-install GPOS are feasible. No one said they weren't feasable. The installation isn't the issue. The *maintenance* of it is. Put another way... we already have umpteen zillion poorly-administered

Re: alt-right-click in xterm

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Minar
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 05:18:20PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > On one computer running debian-unstable right-alt-click in xterm gives > e a bracketed arrow pointint down and to the right. WHen I move the > mouse, the size of the window changes in the direciton the mouse > moves... > > On another

gtkam with Canon A300 not working

2004-02-09 Thread H. S.
Hi, Good to be back to the group after a few weeks of vacation. That over, I just upgraded my Debian Sarge(kernel: 2.4.22-hs1.1-nvidia) (downloaded some 250MB of data!). But older problems still persist. I recall trying to solve some problems related to fonts, gv, gs, etc. But not all at once

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:04:17AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 11:04:57PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > Then they should use it. I couldn't care less whether someone uses Debian, > > > Knoppix, SuSE, Mandrake,

Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Rick Macdonald
Roy - thanks for all the info! I've had timidity installed and working for years, but I gather it does more than I thought. I might be able to get by with it after all. Am I correct in assuming that with ALSA my MIDI H/W ports are probably working now? I haven't had a chance to test yet. [EMAIL P

Permissions

2004-02-09 Thread Joshua Jankowski
As I have been quite intelligent in setting permissions on my debian server, I am here to see if anyone has a solution. In my attempt to write recursive permissions on one of my directories, I hit enter a little too prematurely with / as the designated folder. Quickly noticing the error, I hit

Getting Net SNMPD to work for Cricket?

2004-02-09 Thread stan
I'm trying to set up cricket on a machien to monitor variosu machines on my network. On the Debian machines I've installed the NET SNMP, and NET SNMPD .debs. Crickets systemPerfmon.pl returns a small amout of potentialy available data from the Debian amchines (not nearly all I would like to monit

Re: SSL SMTP Relay in DMZ

2004-02-09 Thread Adam Aube
On Saturday 07 February 2004 03:10 pm, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I would like to set up a mail server in a DMZ that would accept mail > only from those clients who have authenticated using SSL. Do you mean authenticate using username/password over SSL, or authenticate using an SSL certificate? If

Re: exiscan-acl and clamav configuration question

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:27:38PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > I get the following error in my exim4-configuration effort: > > error in ACL: unknown ACL condition/modifier in > "av_scanner = clamd:/var/run/clamd.ctl" > > Why is it an "unknown ACL

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Nate Duehr
On Feb 9, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Sam Halliday wrote: now please can we stop this thread and get back to debian related issues? This from the person who took the time to answer the original poster's anti-Microsoft comments with non-Linux/non-Debian advocacy on a Linux list??? You started it, sir. I j

Re: 2.6 install cd

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:54:47AM +0100, Arunav Mandal wrote: > So do anybody got the idea where can I get hold of > installation disk with 2.6 kernel or how can I create a installation disk > from a present machine with custom 2.6 kerenl. You don't,

Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Roy Pluschke
On February 9, 2004 04:42 pm, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: > > On Mon, 09 Feb 2004, Rick Macdonald wrote: > >> Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load > >> "sound > >> fonts" with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required >

Re: sftp sources?

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Derrick Hudson wrote: > Sam Halliday wrote: > | Cristian Gutierrez wrote: > | > Sam Halliday writes: > [ftp/http is bandwidth limited on university network, ssh isn't > limited] > | > May be they can use an external proxy via ssh. Say, they have ssh > | > access to host X where X is outside their u

Re: Mutt - decoding of QP-escaped headers

2004-02-09 Thread Shot
Hello. Derrick 'dman' Hudson: > Note that this does not have any spaces in the encoded portion. Edit > the message mentioned above and change the header line to > > Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?czu=B3y=20barbarzy=F1ca=20-=20zaproszenie?= > or > Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?czu=B3y=20barbarzy=F1ca

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Nate Duehr wrote: On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that builds buildings and they a

Re: strange behaviour with kernel 2.6 and USB mass storage

2004-02-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nicos Gollan] > Wouldn't there be a theoretical problem when the host number reaches > a maximum? Like when I re-plugged the memorystick, say, 256 times? OK, you just made me curious enough to check the source. The SCSI host adapter number is an 'int', meaning it won't overflow until you have p

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
Nate Duehr wrote: > Damon Chesser wrote: > > This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. > > Users of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker > > of professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that > > builds buildings and they all use Autocad. T

Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Rick Macdonald
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: > On Mon, 09 Feb 2004, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load >> "sound >> fonts" with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required >> or >> not. Also, the awesfx package no longer exists. >> >>

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:25, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > >Incoming from Paul Morgan: > >>You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti > >>"M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, > > > >This is an attitude of which _I

Re: non-us/security down again

2004-02-09 Thread Werner Mahr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 17:50 schrieb Colin Watson: > klecker.debian.org, which serves non-us.debian.org and > security.debian.org, died again about an hour ago with power supply > problems and won't boot. VA Japan had already donated a new PSU, > w

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:49, Mike M wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > > On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote: > > > Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to > > > mix and match software from all branches? > > > > That d

Re: ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Searching the web and Debian site uncovered that I may need to load "sound > fonts" with sfxload, but it's not clear to me if this is still required or > not. Also, the awesfx package no longer exists. > > What do I need to do next? You can either use

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Nate Duehr
On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of professional CAD is porting to linux. I know a shop here that builds buildings and they all use Autocad. The

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:43:41 +0800, Katipo wrote: > On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:59:43 -0500 > Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote: >> >> > Incoming from Paul Morgan: >> >> >> >> You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of >

RealOne player

2004-02-09 Thread Antony Gelberg
Hi all, Anyone using the alpha RealPlayer9? I've been using 8 for ages, and thought I'd give it a go. After a hiccup where the libXm library wasn't in the ldconfig cache, I thought it would be plain sailing. But: bin $ /usr/local/RealPlayer9/realplay bin $ No mention of it in ps as a hung proc

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Adam Aube
On Monday 09 February 2004 03:49 pm, Mike M wrote: > What I want is an up-to-date hardware configurator and all the > blessings of stable. This will most likely never be available. It > seems impossible. You could try MEPIS. It can be freely downloaded, and can be installed or run as a Live CD.

Re: Two Apache instances; IPTables to redirect ports

2004-02-09 Thread Adam Aube
On Monday 09 February 2004 01:41 pm, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > Oh, OK... Isn't it a viable alternative to run apache with -f config, > with another config file...? I'd forgotten about that. > I thought that would be the most elegant path to take Definitely. > but I have no clue on how to impleme

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Katipo
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:59:43 -0500 Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > Incoming from Paul Morgan: > >> > >> You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of > >infantile anti> "M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick a

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Katipo
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:25:17 -0600 "Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > > >Incoming from Paul Morgan: > > > > > This is the first time I have to disagree with you S. Keeling. Users > of CAD (espe. AutoCad) realy have to use windose. No maker of > professional

Re: 'apt-get dist-upgrade' not working.

2004-02-09 Thread No Spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and have not been able to do a successful 'apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing' for 2-3 weeks now. That is a big backlog in unstable. The key message seems to be E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/d

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:04:34 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: [snip] > > If the idea is to dumb things down so that the stupids don't have to think, > eventually all that will be left are the stupids. > [snip] Ha! "Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it." I've j

Re: window managers with maximize-vertical?

2004-02-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Tim Connors wrote: Johann Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:42:17 -0500: On Sunday February 8 at 11:34am "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, I had a window manager that supported maximize-vertical (as opposed

Re: Alternative to VMware?

2004-02-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 12:54:03PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I really want to get a copy of VMware, but I don't have $140 for the > student version. So I'm looking for alternatives. I just want some kind > of sandbox where I can test out new software, distros, etc, wi

Re: Re: stable or testing?

2004-02-09 Thread @(none)
Stable, but should it not be described in /etc/apt/sources.list as woody iso stable? So that at rollovertime (real soon now (tm)), stable=woody-->stable=sarge there are no unexpected upgrades. mvg Boudewijn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: alt-right-click in xterm

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 05:18:20PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > I liket he second style better, as it gives me more flexibility. > Anyone know what option controls this behaviour? Sure. The window manager that's being used on the one, versus the window manager that's being used on the other.

Re: (un)mounting smb shares

2004-02-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 12:18:32PM +0100, Joerg Johannes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi everybody > > At our university, I can mount a smb directory at our computing centre > by giving my username and password. I have in my /etc/fstab: > > //myusername.files.uni-freiburg.de/windows /home/jor

Re: Gnome terminal, switching profile w/o menu?

2004-02-09 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 06:57, Magnus Therning wrote: > Is there a way of switching the profile of a running gnome-terminal, > without using the menu? I am mostly interested of doing it from inside > the terminal itself. The immediately obvious answer is "ALT+t p". Also see "gnome-terminal --help"

Re: Directory name completion using bash_completion in unstable (forwarded from Phil Edwards)

2004-02-09 Thread Ian Macdonald
On Fri 12 Dec 2003 at 07:51:13 +0100, you wrote: > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i > X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cs.tu-berlin.de (including spamassassin) > From: Phil Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Directory name completion us

alt-right-click in xterm

2004-02-09 Thread Matt Price
hey folks, On one computer running debian-unstable right-alt-click in xterm gives e a bracketed arrow pointint down and to the right. WHen I move the mouse, the size of the window changes in the direciton the mouse moves... On another system, also running debian-unstable, the same action gives

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:11:15 +, Sam Halliday wrote: > > i cant believe i just replied to an anti-microsoft troll on debian-user > :-/ > I'll note it in my diary, Sam :> -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough hammer.

Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:06:38 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My > situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I > google the topic do not really apply IMHO. > > The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on

ALSA midi SBLive - sfxload?

2004-02-09 Thread Rick Macdonald
In order to get MIDI going I upgraded to sid, updated kernel 2.4.19 to 2.4.24 and switched form the kernel sound driver to ALSA. Everything still works (xmms can play mp3 to ALSA output, for example), but still no MIDI sound. lsmod shows all the modules as shown below. Playing a midi file goes th

Re: sed trouble: "\'a to á" etc

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Minar
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:47:07PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > I am trying to write a small sed script to change tex coding \'a to > just á, since it is much simpler to write it like that, using latin1 Hi, Antonio. IIRC, recode(1) can do this, or cstocs(1). And if not, recode /should/. HT

Re: Auction R.S. Brookes

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:07:55 +, Clarke Fussells wrote: [snip] > > Complete all stainless steel mashed potato plant with blanchers, > peelers, emulsifiers and mixers * Complete forming battering > crumbing and frying lines Formax, Koppens and Stein [snip] Yes, but does all that stuf

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Mike M (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > To use Debian on the latest hardware then you must use unstable or > testing, which exposes you to possible broken packages. That is not always correct, because in many cases it is sufficient to only use a newer Kernel (e.g. from backports.org, or self

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:29:37 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:11:29AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: >> > What would you suggest as an alternative? I've heard calls for Morphix, >> > but that's a derivitive of Knoppix. >> >> I'd suggest them putting the Woody CD in the drive

Re: upgrade woody -> sarge not working

2004-02-09 Thread Brett Carrington
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:37:09PM -0800, Roger Chrisman wrote: > I use 'testing' instead of 'sarge' in /etc/sources.list. > > I understand 'testing' == 'sarge', but are they also interchangablely in > sources.list in that way? Produce identical results? This is what I understand from it: Whe

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:44:38 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Thorsten Haude: >> >> * Paul E Condon wrote (2004-02-08 05:15): >> >Start with Kernighan and Pike, The UNIX Programming Environment. >> >> Please don't. This might have been a good book twenty years ago but >> now it's obsole

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Damon L. Chesser
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Paul Morgan: You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti "M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft software sucks, bigtime! Anyone

sym53c8xx_2 driver+tekram DC-390u2w+kernel-2.6.0 (Posting again)

2004-02-09 Thread Brad Cramer
As you can see by the subject of the e-mail I have a Tekram DC-390U2W Scsi controller and am trying to get kernel-2.6.0 running, but I can not get The sym53c8xx_2 driver to work properly. I have it build into my kernel and It detects my scsi hardware, but when it tries to mount any scsi partitions

Re: upgrade woody -> sarge not working

2004-02-09 Thread Roger Chrisman
09 February 2004 07:16, Werner Mahr: > Why stable and unstable if you want Sarge (testing)? > Try this in your sources.list: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib\ > non-free > deb http://security.

Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice

2004-02-09 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:30:21PM +, stephen parkinson wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > >I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My > >situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I > >google the topic do not really apply IMHO. > > > >The i686

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Paul Morgan: >> >> You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti >> "M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, > > This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Sam Halliday
s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Paul Morgan: > > You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of > > infantile anti"M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. > > I use several OSes, > This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft > software sucks, bigtime!

Re: upgrade woody -> sarge not working

2004-02-09 Thread Werner Mahr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 18:18 schrieb Adam Funk: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free > > What's the difference between using "sarge" and "testing", e.g. > > deb ftp://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ tes

Re: from Peter Brown

2004-02-09 Thread Bill Benedetto
pbrown> Enclosed is an account of an issue that recently pbrown> occurred with my 20GB HDD. 15GB of the disk contains a pbrown> year's worth of important Graphics files. Somehow pbrown> the disk became corrupted. The 20GB HDD physically pbrown> functions fine, i.e., it does not makes a

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Morgan: > > You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti > "M$" remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired. Microsoft software sucks, bigtime! Anyone looking at the amo

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Mike M
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote: > > Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to > > mix and match software from all branches? > > That depends on how you define "just works". All branches exc

Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice

2004-02-09 Thread Nano Nano
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:06:38PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program > load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to > think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? In my experienc

Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice

2004-02-09 Thread stephen parkinson
Paul E Condon wrote: I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I google the topic do not really apply IMHO. The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a 60G HD, and Windoze XP installed on a 30G HD

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