Weird situation

2004-09-20 Thread Scott Mohnkern
I'm running two debian 2.2 computers on a box on a network connected to the Internet via a router. I can telnet in from the outside to both boxes just fine. I can telnet from box a to box b without problem, but I can't telnet from box b to box a (or ssh). In addition, the webmin monitoring

Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread disciple
I've decided to buy a PC with Debian Preinstalled. Should I go with Stable Woody or Development Sarge? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Weird situation

2004-09-20 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 03:19:33PM -0400, Scott Mohnkern wrote: ... I can telnet from box a to box b without problem, but I can't telnet from box b to box a (or ssh). ... Any ideas? What does traceroute show? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Jacob Larsen
So the solution is to not set a gateway for eth0 and eth1, but only set it for bond0? Yes, But you also could have gw for your eth's cards, but you must assure that those routes do not supercede the bond0. I am not sure that I understand what you mean by supersede. The only gateway I have is

Re: Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread Eric Dickner
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided to buy a PC with Debian Preinstalled. Should I go with Stable Woody or Development Sarge? I installed stable woody from purchased CD's (which is what you will be buying) and have been able to upgrade it to Sarge status by recompiling the source

Re: Developing flash on debian

2004-09-20 Thread Paul Johnson
#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 S.D.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate regarding Flash. You're going to have to back that up. Last I checked, Macromedia held

Re: Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread Paul Johnson
#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've decided to buy a PC with Debian Preinstalled. Should I go with Stable Woody or Development Sarge? I'd say you're safe with either right now. You'll probably want Sarge because it's not

Re: Weird situation

2004-09-20 Thread Scott Mohnkern
traceroute *** traceroute: Warning: findsaddr: error sending netlink message: Connection refuse d traceroute: Warning: ip checksums disabled traceroute to ** (**), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 *

USB Network adaptor: iMac

2004-09-20 Thread Jeff Elkins
I've got a iMac running Sid that I want to connect to a home network via wireless. Can someone recommend a USB network adaptor? Thanks, Jeff Elkins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Developing flash on debian

2004-09-20 Thread S.D.A.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:54:39PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 S.D.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate

Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!

2004-09-20 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 19:47, Tim Kelley wrote: So we shouldn't purge the mail queue and hints database? Since policy requires a purged package to vanish without leaving any trace of its installation, that would be a policy violation. Huh? There is no such policy. The policy defines purge

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Sergio Basurto
Ok, send the shell~#route -n output... On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:21:58 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: So the solution is to not set a gateway for eth0 and eth1, but only set it for bond0? Yes, But you also could have gw for your eth's cards, but you must assure that those routes do

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Jacob Larsen
Sergio Basurto wrote: Ok, send the shell~#route -n output... # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 00 eth0 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Sergio Basurto
move from your routing table, the entries for your eth's cards. route del ... On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:15:45 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: Ok, send the shell~#route -n output... # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Jacob Larsen
Sergio Basurto wrote: move from your routing table, the entries for your eth's cards. route del ... I am not sure I know what to do. If I do something wrong I have to drive 60km to fix it :) # route del ? Please help. Thanks, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Icebiker
Parallel ports generate an interrupt (and so a context switch) for every byte that goes out, the hardware provides no buffering as serial ports do (and for some reason, the industry never saw the need). In NT/XP, MS supports parallel ports grudgingly and encourage you to invest in a USB

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Sergio Basurto
ok, #route del -net 87.7.167.224 netmask 255.255.255.240 eth0 #route del -net 87.7.167.224 netmask 255.255.255.240 eth1 then run #route -n and the output should not have the eth's entries. #ip neigh show and send the output On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:19:03 -0700 (PDT), Sergio Basurto wrote:

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Jacob Larsen
This is what I got. Which package do I need for ip neigh show? # route del -net 87.7.167.224 netmask 255.255.255.240 eth0 SIOCDELRT: No such process # route del -net 87.7.167.224 netmask 255.255.255.240 eth1 SIOCDELRT: No such process # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:42:30PM -0400, Icebiker wrote: In NT/XP, MS supports parallel ports grudgingly and encourage you to invest in a USB device. I imagine it's the same for Linux. Just as an aside, NT certainly does nothing of the kind, as it has no clue what USB is. -- Marc Wilson |

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Originally I was using lpd in the lpr package. With that, lpd showed as the CPU consumer. I just switched to CUPS; now parallel:/dev/lp0 shows as the CPU consumer. My guess is that it was before, but the time was just being

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Sergio Basurto
iproute2 under debian : #apt-get install iproute and try #route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth0 #route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth1 On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:02:29 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: This is what I got. Which package do I need for ip neigh show? # route del -net 87.7.167.224 netmask

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 20 September 2004 17:07, Marc Wilson wrote: Uh, that's a CUPS back-end, not the hardware directly. The port itself cannot consume CPU. Well, it can, but not in the sense that you mean. In what way do *you* think it can consume CPU? -- Kirk Strauser pgpSLMRaidtRT.pgp Description:

Re: Thunderbird 0.8 folder bug ?

2004-09-20 Thread Adam Bogacki
Sorry, that was written before I installed 0.8-2 ... everything is now working properly. Cheers, Adam. Alexander Sack wrote: Adam Bogacki wrote: Sorry to be a spoil-sport but when replying (TB0.8) to an email I found the Compose' pane stuck one third of the way down the screen, and the written

Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert

2004-09-20 Thread Rob Sims
On Sunday 19 September 2004 10:53 am, Nicolas de Sereville wrote: Following the ATI Radeon Linux How-To, I managed to get the 3D acceleration with the previous xserver version (4.3.0.dfsg.1-6) but overwriting the MESA libGL library with the ATI one, through a dpkg --force-overwrite -i

Re: Unable to ping gateway

2004-09-20 Thread Jacob Larsen
Sergio Basurto wrote: #route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth0 #route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth1 # route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth0 SIOCDELRT: No such process # route del -host 87.7.167.224 eth1 SIOCDELRT: No such process # ip neigh show 81.7.167.225 dev bond0 lladdr 00:d0:00:e4:fc:0a nud reachable I

Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert

2004-09-20 Thread Nicolas de Sereville
Hi, Rob Sims wrote: On Sunday 19 September 2004 10:53 am, Nicolas de Sereville wrote: Following the ATI Radeon Linux How-To, I managed to get the 3D acceleration with the previous xserver version (4.3.0.dfsg.1-6) but overwriting the MESA libGL library with the ATI one, through a dpkg

Re: glibc 2.3 and updated gcc for woody

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:50:53PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:30:24PM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:20:50PM -0700, Cole S. Ashcraft wrote: Is there an updated version of glibc (2.3) and gcc for woody? Thanks, Cole There is no

Re: Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided to buy a PC with Debian Preinstalled. Should I go with Stable Woody or Development Sarge? Which PC? Why not build a PC, buy the 14CD's and install Sarge? Sarge, definitely. But why not wait until Sarge is stable? Then you won't have to upgrade... Hugo. --

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:13:05PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 17:07, Marc Wilson wrote: Uh, that's a CUPS back-end, not the hardware directly. The port itself cannot consume CPU. Well, it can, but not in the sense that you mean. In what way do *you* think

Re: mouse: kernel 2.6.6 - 2.6.8 ???

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:01:11PM -0500, helices wrote: What broke? What changed? I have been running 2.6x kernels on this legacy PPro box for most of this year -- first kernel-image-2.6.2-1-686, then kernel-image-2.6.6-2-686 -- without incident. Today, the only change I made was to

Re: Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread robin
Sid is the testing kernel and is more advanced than Sarge and will cause you problems; stay away from that one. I would disagree. For a production machine definitely but maybe not a desktop machine. I have run unstable without any problems for 18 months. Maybe I've been lucky but debian in

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:13:05PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 17:07, Marc Wilson wrote: Uh, that's a CUPS back-end, not the hardware directly. The port itself cannot consume CPU. Well, it can, but not in the sense that you mean. In what way do *you* think

USB DVD-RW drive

2004-09-20 Thread Andrew Konosky
I have been wanting to get a DVD-RW drive and recently someone suggested I get an external drive, which I had never thought of. It will be more expensive than an internal drive, but I could use it on all of my computers to backup data, with less hassle than an internal drive. Also, I might be

Re: limiting resources

2004-09-20 Thread Adam Aube
martin f krafft wrote: Every now and then, coincidence will have it that 10 or 20 users invoke spamassassin at the same time. Spamassassin is a resource hog and that will cause the machine to basically become unusable, with the load going to 30 and higher. Obviously, I have put limits on

Re: limiting resources

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:22:13PM -0400, Adam Aube wrote: martin f krafft wrote: Every now and then, coincidence will have it that 10 or 20 users invoke spamassassin at the same time. Spamassassin is a resource hog and that will cause the machine to basically become unusable, with the

Upgrade to sarge from woody box not using apt-get

2004-09-20 Thread Cole S. Ashcraft
Is there a way to install / upgrade to sarge from a debian box running woody without using apt-get? I have glibc2.3 instsalled. Cole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Upgrade to sarge from woody box not using apt-get

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:59:29PM -0700, Cole S. Ashcraft wrote: Is there a way to install / upgrade to sarge from a debian box running woody without using apt-get? I have glibc2.3 instsalled. Yes. Download the sarge netinst ISO. Burn it to CD. Back up all your data. Turn off computer.

Re: limiting resources

2004-09-20 Thread Adam Aube
Stefan O'Rear wrote: How about a serializing wrapper? Now, if you make the script NOPASSWD sudo -u sa_learn able, and make sa_learn only executable by user sa_learn, only one will be running at a time. Or you could make the script setGID, then remove world read and execute rights on the

How to have X not start at boot?

2004-09-20 Thread JoeHill
Hi all, *Very* new Debian user here, first install ever, though I was surprised at how easy it was, even though I chose to install from floppies over the internet. That's pretty cool! Anyhow, stupid question number one: I would like to have the system boot to a text mode login, but I cannot

Re: How to have X not start at boot?

2004-09-20 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:13:55PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: Hi all, *Very* new Debian user here, first install ever, though I was surprised at how easy it was, even though I chose to install from floppies over the internet. That's pretty cool! Anyhow, stupid question number one: I would

Re: Developing flash on debian

2004-09-20 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:19:27AM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0400, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the most obvious is flashblock. I don't think that's what Pigeon had in

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 20 September 2004 07:29 pm, Ross Boylan wrote: I'm not sure who *you* means, but my original thought was that the device driver associated with the port might be using a lot of CPU cycles. I think that's exactly what's happening, and I was curious as to why others thought that it

Re: How to have X not start at boot?

2004-09-20 Thread Michael Marsh
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:36:30 -0700, Stefan O'Rear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:13:55PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: Anyhow, stupid question number one: I would like to have the system boot to a text mode login, but I cannot find where to make the change in any of the system

Re: Developing flash on debian

2004-09-20 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:09:27AM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:54:09AM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: That's true -- I wasn't aware of that. However, that doesn't address the issue that some people don't run Flash for one reason or another. Most of us have

Re: How to have X not start at boot?

2004-09-20 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:36:30 -0700 Stefan O'Rear disseminated the following: Anyhow, stupid question number one: I would like to have the system boot to a text mode login, but I cannot find where to make the change in any of the system administration tools. I plan to (try) to admin the

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Icebiker
Doh, you are absolutely right, I meant XP. /icebiker - Original Message - From: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 18:06 Subject: Re: parallel port using lots of CPU On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:42:30PM -0400, Icebiker wrote: In NT/XP, MS

Re: How to have X not start at boot?

2004-09-20 Thread Blake Swadling
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 11:59, Michael Marsh wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:36:30 -0700, Stefan O'Rear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:13:55PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: Anyhow, stupid question number one: I would like to have the system boot to a text mode login, but I cannot

Re: Preinstalled System

2004-09-20 Thread Tim Kelley
On Monday 20 September 2004 19:02, robin wrote: Sid is the testing kernel and is more advanced than Sarge and will cause you problems; stay away from that one. I would disagree. For a production machine definitely but maybe not a desktop machine. I have run unstable without any problems for

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:50:36PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 07:29 pm, Ross Boylan wrote: I'm not sure who *you* means, but my original thought was that the device driver associated with the port might be using a lot of CPU cycles. I think that's exactly

Re: parallel port using lots of CPU

2004-09-20 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 20 September 2004 10:09 pm, Ross Boylan wrote: Mine says parport0: Printer, Lexmark International Lexmark Optra E310 lp0: using parport0 (polling). parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP] I don't really know what that means, but it apparently has no interrupts and there's no

Re: mouse: kernel 2.6.6 - 2.6.8 ???

2004-09-20 Thread helices
* Stefan O'Rear [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004:09:20:16:02:59-0700] scribed: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:01:11PM -0500, helices wrote: What broke? What changed? I have been running 2.6x kernels on this legacy PPro box for most of this year -- first kernel-image-2.6.2-1-686, then

Re: Not optimal display

2004-09-20 Thread Jean-Francois Lefebvre
Selon Andrea Vettorello [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:08:33 -0400, Jean-Francois Lefebvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm using Debian since 2 weeks, and so far I'm happy with it. But there's one problem. I have an ATI Radeon 9000 graphic card, and still when a GL

Re: Developing flash on debian

2004-09-20 Thread S.D.A.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 03:06:06AM +0100 or thereabouts, Pigeon wrote: [...] There is another issue that I can see with flash (and please correct me if I'm not accurate :-) ) which is the monolithic, binary nature of the files - in fact this leads to two issues: snip for space You're quite

Re: kernel 2.6.7 2.4.18

2004-09-20 Thread Vijaya S
hi thanks for the reply, but why is this module-init-tools required? Raghavendra Bhat wrote: Vijaya need 2.4.18 kernel in particular..Is it possible to have that also after having a higher version Yes, it is possible. Both can exist peacefully. Kernel v2.6.x requires you to have

Re: Failed PPP hangs system

2004-09-20 Thread Robert Golovniov
Thomas Hood wrote: Only a buggy driver (or other kernel component) can make the whole system hang. I have tried to reinstall the kernel altogether, but the problem persists. Where else can I dig? What about the loadable modules? Can I try checking something there? How can I do it? I can just add

sharing a printer with windows

2004-09-20 Thread Christian Benito
I have small network, two windows 2000 boxes and a debian box. The two windows machines share a laser printer that is attached to one of them. I'd like to be able to print from the debian machine too. Can anybody give me a pointer on how to get that working? thanks Christian -- To

saving a session urgent pls

2004-09-20 Thread Vijaya S
hi all, i logged into another machine via ssh and while ediitng using mutt for some reason my network went down.. how do i go to the remote machinea nd save the file which i edited..The remote machine is accessible.. Regards, Vijaya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: sharing a printer with windows

2004-09-20 Thread Alexandros Papadopoulos
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 08:17, Christian Benito wrote: I have small network, two windows 2000 boxes and a debian box. The two windows machines share a laser printer that is attached to one of them. I'd like to be able to print from the debian machine too. Can anybody give me a pointer on

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