Re: USB to IrDA - Arkmicro

2012-12-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:59:43AM -0200, Markos wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to use an interface USB to IrDA Debian Lenny. > > I installed the packages usbutils and irda-utils and edited the file > /etc/default/irda-utils > > ENABLE = "true" > AUTOMATIC = "true" > DISCOVERY = "true" > DEVICE

Re: Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-19 Thread Jochen Spieker
Rob van der Putten: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Ah, according to BTS #452259, this issue was fixed in upstream version >> 2.20. Squeeze still has 2.01, but wheezy will ship 2.23. > > Excellent! So how configurable is Webalizer? Not very much. > I do rather weird stuff with Analog. Convert logf

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Because I needed new hardware I couldn't keep a stable Linux install that satisfied my needs. Never change a winning team! If there's no need to update, keep a stable install, make backups and to test newer Linux versions at least have a dual-boot. If I could use my old stable install, I still w

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45:25PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently > > 5-6 hours (according to powertop) > > Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. > Probably more than is reasonable.

Top of the "Biggest PITA on the internet" - Was: Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
1. Spam 2. Idiots that make typos for the subject, for something that already is OT An example [1] 3. scripts, flash, some cooky policies, some usage of HTML for emails 4. blackhole listed providers, provider that have difficulties to fulfil RFCs. I e.g. had to beg for postmaster 5. Cha

To of the "Biggest PITA on the internet" - Was: Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 20:17 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > Biggest PITA on the internet.except for spam. I agree, HTML mails that make intense usage of exotic fonts are seldom, but OTOH there are nice scripts, I e.g. can't open my telephone bill with a click and the right-click to downloa

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 02:29:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: > However, I used Debian stable amd64 and testing amd64 and AVLinux (a > 32bit Debian stable), both for my needs are less god than the broken > Ubuntu. > > I'm switching between Debian and Ubunt

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Frank McCormick
On 19/12/12 07:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm a

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:12 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Ralf writes: > > In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely > > unreadable for me. > > I often find them insoluble as well. :D For people using braille they for sure much more fun, than they are already for you and me :D.

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 16:49 -0800, salamandir wrote: > i have been using kubuntu since dapper, and with precise it managed to > tip my scale from "useful" to "too buggy to be useful" which is why i > decided to switch distros. My machine is a *NIX multi-boot. I add a FreeBSD to my many Linux insta

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Frank McCormick
On 19/12/12 07:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm a

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread John Hasler
Ralf writes: > In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely > unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org A

OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: > Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm also able to solve the arithmetic problem fro

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 01:13:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: > I can't write often enough that it's nonsense to claim distro X is > better or less good than distro Y. what you say is entirely reasonable. i have been using kubuntu since dapper, and with p

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 14:58 -0800, salamandir wrote: > i'm sure i downloaded the ISO from the debian.com web site... That's good, nobody should install any distro from a magazine's media. They often provide very obscure install media. > i *AM* using an install CD, as i said in my original post.

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : > >Don't change the symlink. Change the #! line to #!/bin/bash. That > >is the correct way to use bash specific features. Then it will work > >on the next system that you run it on. If you change the symlink on > > The immediate proble

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I can't write often enough that it's nonsense to claim distro X is better or less good than distro Y. It depends to the version of the distro, to your needs and to your hardware. Do we all feel the best, if we heat our flats as we do it now, or should we all heat the flats a little bit more or a

Re: SOLVED save time output to a script variable (was RE: unexpected script output)

2012-12-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > Well, that didn't take long. I'm posting a simple script that captures the > system time output of the time command to a variable in case anyone else > has spent a good bit of time trying to get this to work, like me. I have a few comments. Many eyes make all bugs visibile!

RE: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?

2012-12-19 Thread Mark Allums
"Mark Allums" writes: > On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: [ snipped ] > Typically, the dependencies of experimental packages are not sorted > out properly, so installing them can be a trial. I routinely install > package from experimental, and from my experience, I recommend NOT to

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:41:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: > As far as I understood, you used a live CD, which is the Ubuntu's way > to do things. Official Debian website only have basic installation > CDs/DVDs, which does not give you a

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.12.2012 00:22, Bob Proulx a écrit : Nelson Green wrote: > Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Change your shebang line to #!/bin/bash to make it work right and then > set the executable bit on the script. Then you can just do ./output.sh > to get the expected results (don't do

Re: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.12.2012 00:00, Brad Alexander a écrit : I'm having an issue with seeing captchas. On my home system (sid), I can't see them in iceweasel, but on my work laptop, I can't see them on either iceweasel or midori. I thought it might be adblock, but when I checked the page, the captcha site (go

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
You are thinking too much in Kubuntu speak. i'm doing fairly well, considering that my pre-linux language was mac or windows, and i have been using linux /exclusively/ since 2000 or there abouts... You are older than me in linux world then. But time is in nothing related to knowledge, it depe

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > > Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Change your shebang line to #!/bin/bash to make it work right and then > > set the executable bit on the script. Then you can just do ./output.sh > > to get the expected results (don't do "sh output.sh," since that will > > just

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
I will do what we call in French a "tir groupé"... I guess it might be translated as grouped shots, but it does not sounds good to my ears... See my recent post: Make sure your desktop environment is setting up a up proper consolekit session. Then stuff like that will work ootb. E.g. if you ar

Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Joel Roth wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > On Sid I have: > > openssh-client 1:6.0p1-3 > > Depends: ... libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.1) ... > > Make sure that at the least both of those are up to date. > > Thanks for this suggestion. Your intuition was right! > > I just needed to update openssh-client

Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Brad Alexander
I'm having an issue with seeing captchas. On my home system (sid), I can't see them in iceweasel, but on my work laptop, I can't see them on either iceweasel or midori. I thought it might be adblock, but when I checked the page, the captcha site (google, iirc) wasn't blocked. Anyone know what woul

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:36:30 PM, Lisi Reisz, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: > What is "Squeeze '2'" (live or otherwise)? What does the "2" mean? i don't remember the link i got "Squeeze 2" from, but i have seen references to "Squeeze 2C" and "Squeeze 2D" on this mailin

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 21:13:42 salamandir wrote: > i put the squeeze 2 live disk in to the CD drive on my computer and > rebooted. > > it booted into debian, and i clicked on the "Debian Installer" icon i saw > on the desktop. [snip] > please tell me where i went wrong and how i can get bey

Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 09:40:54, Mark Allums wrote: I wrote: > [1] at this moment wheezy *is* 'testing' and you can use either in > sources.list. They will start to differ only when wheezy is released > (becomes 'stable') at which point jenny will be 'testing'. > > 'Jessie'? Oups, it was late... or

hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
i put the squeeze 2 live disk in to the CD drive on my computer and rebooted. it booted into debian, and i clicked on the "Debian Installer" icon i saw on the desktop. it gathered the appropriate information and then... it /hung/ while displaying the "Starting the partitioner" window. i left i

Re: Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Jochen Spieker wrote: Ah, according to BTS #452259, this issue was fixed in upstream version 2.20. Squeeze still has 2.01, but wheezy will ship 2.23. Excellent! So how configurable is Webalizer? I do rather weird stuff with Analog. Convert logfiles into fake webserver log files and

Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?

2012-12-19 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi Mark, "Mark Allums" writes: > On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: [ snipped ] > Typically, the dependencies of experimental packages are not sorted out > properly, so installing them can be a trial. I routinely install package > from experimental, and from my experience, I recomme

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 14:02:31 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > where it is talking about "auto url=..." is definitely incorrect. > > Taking this and your other mail into account is persuading me back to > readopting my original view on the matt

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread David Guntner
[You know, it would be *really* nice if you set your mail program to include an attribute line at the top, indicating who you're replying to/quoting :-)] Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > [I said...] >> Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >>> $ cat output.sh >>> #!/bin/sh >>>

Exporting an autofs-mounted filesystem via NFS

2012-12-19 Thread Alessandro Ghedini
Hi, I've been trying to export an autofs-mounted filesystem via NFS, but I can't get it to work. Basically when I try to mount such export on the client, mount.nfs gets stuck and never completes. Autofs seems to work correctly. because after starting the daemon on the server and say, doing a "ls"

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
To keep professional systems secure, it's helpful to force users to keep their home desktop PC secure too, because security is a chain. I know that there are cases, when we are not part of this chain, e.g. for an audio workstation, that isn't connected to the Internet. IMO it's ok to force users to

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread David Guntner
Glenn English grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:07 AM, David Guntner wrote: > >> 'Cause /bin/sh points to dash, not bash, in Debian. > > In squeeze, but not in lenny. It's bash in lenny: > >> ls -la /bin/sh >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 27 14:09 /bin/sh -> dash > >> ls

SOLVED save time output to a script variable (was RE: unexpected script output)

2012-12-19 Thread Nelson Green
> Thanks Dave! > > PS, I'm getting ready to post a request for help in capturing the output of > time > to a script variable. I can't seem to make it work despite many different > attempts. I don't think that's a dash issue, but if you know that it is, let > me > know. Well, that didn't take lo

RE: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Nelson Green
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:07 AM, David Guntner wrote: > > > 'Cause /bin/sh points to dash, not bash, in Debian. > > In squeeze, but not in lenny. It's bash in lenny: > > > ls -la /bin/sh > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 27 14:09 /bin/sh -> dash > > > ls -la /bin/sh > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-

RE: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Nelson Green
> Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > Good morning, > > > > Can anyone help me understand why the following two console commands each > > produce output, but only one of them produces output when both are called > > in a > > shell script? > > > > $ /bin/echo "Shell: $SHELL" > > She

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/19/2012 04:58 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : >> Michael Biebl wrote: >>> On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: > On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> Except using s

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Glenn English
On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:07 AM, David Guntner wrote: > 'Cause /bin/sh points to dash, not bash, in Debian. In squeeze, but not in lenny. It's bash in lenny: > ls -la /bin/sh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 27 14:09 /bin/sh -> dash > ls -la /bin/sh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-26 11:33 /bin/s

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 16:58, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : >> Michael Biebl wrote: >>> On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: > On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> Except using sudo

Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread David Guntner
Nelson Green grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Good morning, > > Can anyone help me understand why the following two console commands each > produce output, but only one of them produces output when both are called in a > shell script? > > $ /bin/echo "Shell: $SHELL" > Shell: /bin/bash > $ /bin/

Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I ne

unexpected script output

2012-12-19 Thread Nelson Green
Good morning, Can anyone help me understand why the following two console commands each produce output, but only one of them produces output when both are called in a shell script? $ /bin/echo "Shell: $SHELL" Shell: /bin/bash $ /bin/echo "Random: $RANDOM" Random: 29707 $ cat output.sh #!/bin/sh

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Indeed. I found this: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PolicyKit#Suspend_and_hibernate > > Follow that and addgroup power and adduser to power and you can now > hibernate and suspend. So this just seems to be matter or missing PK privileges, i

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 17:22:34 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and > > with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. > > Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url synta

RE: Slow network performance with KVM

2012-12-19 Thread Katynski, Bogdan
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Proulx [mailto:b...@proulx.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:27 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Slow network performance with KVM > > > > You might also want to try the backported newer versions of > > > libvirt-bin kvm packages

Re: Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-19 Thread Jochen Spieker
Rob van der Putten: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> I don't know about Analog, but I use webalizer which has a similar >> problem with IPv6 addresses. Looks like a bug to me. AFAICS Analog's >> latest upstream release is exactly eight years old today (Happy >> Releaseday!) and Webalizer's is more tha

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Dec 2012 at 12:06:41 +, Brian wrote: > I'm adding to the command line with > > auto=true url=file:///mnt/preseed.cfg I'm having to adjust my mindset. :) That should be auto=true url=file:///mnt/./preseed.cfg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Jochen Spieker wrote: I don't know about Analog, but I use webalizer which has a similar problem with IPv6 addresses. Looks like a bug to me. AFAICS Analog's latest upstream release is exactly eight years old today (Happy Releaseday!) and Webalizer's is more than two years old. I woul

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the ur

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 02:16:58PM -0500, Daniel wrote: > hello > > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? If in doubt, use a "multi-arch" CD from http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:53:26AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >But the underlying problem is lack of manpower. How do you[1] expect to > >solve it without getting involved? > > > >[1] and I mean you personally, the Debian

USB to IrDA - Arkmicro

2012-12-19 Thread Markos
Hello, I'm trying to use an interface USB to IrDA Debian Lenny. I installed the packages usbutils and irda-utils and edited the file /etc/default/irda-utils ENABLE = "true" AUTOMATIC = "true" DISCOVERY = "true" DEVICE = "/ dev/ttyUSB0" DONGLE = "none" Setserial = "" When I connect the interface

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > > How are you inserting the preseed data when booting "expert" mode? I > > > can only think of being able to do that one the command line. > > > > Is this question directed at Richard? > > I

Re: Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-19 Thread Jochen Spieker
Rob van der Putten: > > > In my Analog web server statistics I get a lot of 'domain not > given'. According to the docs this is caused by hostnames without a > dot. > In the case of an IP address without a (matching) reverse lookup, > the 'hostname' is an IP address. And in case of IPv6, the IP a

Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-19 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:36:02PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > Joel Roth wrote: > > > $ git pull > > > OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 105f, you have 1000103f > > > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly > > > > This error also occurs when I use ssh directly, to