Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:34:29PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > On Apr 14, 2014 10:11 PM, "Richard Hector" wrote: > > They don't need to send an email, or anything intrusive. They just need > > to put a big notice on the login page of their internet banking site - > > along with (or instead of) al

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 08:59:30PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: >> On Apr 14, 2014 11:01 AM, "Chris Bannister" >> wrote: >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:55:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> > > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 08:59:30PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > On Apr 14, 2014 11:01 AM, "Chris Bannister" > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:55:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > ... > > > > considering it is a catastrophe worse th

Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140414_1902+, Артур Истомин wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 06:44:06PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 14 April 2014 17:49:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > But I am still getting, as I did in the first place, > > > > > > Installed plugins > > > Find updates for installed plugins at

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 14, 2014 10:11 PM, "Richard Hector" wrote: > > On 15/04/14 12:59, shawn wilson wrote: > >> That statement was made in the sense that at least the bank could have > >> > issued a statement along the lines of 'you may have heard of the > >> > heartbleed bug, we can assure all of our customers

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 15/04/14 12:59, shawn wilson wrote: >> That statement was made in the sense that at least the bank could have >> > issued a statement along the lines of 'you may have heard of the >> > heartbleed bug, we can assure all of our customers that we are not >> > affected by this bug and there is no ne

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 14, 2014 9:15 PM, "John Hasler" wrote: > > shawn wilson writes: > > No, I don't want to hear from my bank unless there's a problem. If > > everything is going OK, don't spam me. If its not, by all means, let > > me know. This didn't affect them so don't tell me anything. > > You assume that

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread John Hasler
shawn wilson writes: > No, I don't want to hear from my bank unless there's a problem. If > everything is going OK, don't spam me. If its not, by all means, let > me know. This didn't affect them so don't tell me anything. You assume that they would tell you if they were affected. If I did any on

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 14, 2014 11:01 AM, "Chris Bannister" wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:55:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > ... > > > considering it is a catastrophe worse than the Y2K bug. > > > > This is several orders of magnitude less severe than

Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread ray
> You have to find the exact package and install it by name, not just > > plug a word in and panic!! As you see, I have multiarch-support > > installed. If you _can't_ see that I have multiarch-support > > installed, and I am assuming too much, then I suggest that you read > > up a bit on

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 15/04/14 02:03, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> I certainly wouldn't jump to conclusions that they're a bank therefore >> > they use IBM mainframes therefore they don't use OpenSSL therefore >> > they're invulnerable, > I jumped to no conclusion. Do you see the word "bank" in my original > statement b

Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 April 2014 19:27:31 ray wrote: > > Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch? With one of > > the apt family. (I use aptitude). I agree that it is not > > obviously > > # apt-get install multiarch > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state in

Re: No windows decoration only on some apps

2014-04-14 Thread José Silva
On 14/04/14 16:26, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:46:52PM +0100, José Silva wrote: Hello, I have a sid system since a long time and I'm very happy with it. It started using gnome 2 when I switched from MS but now has xfce and compiz using the common Glossy theme. Since a few weeks

Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/13/2014 08:01 PM, ray wrote: Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and greatest. That is what I did to get the newer vers

Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 14 April 2014 20:02:18 Артур Истомин wrote: > Lisi, I am very stupid man, sorry for that. Make this: No, you are very helpful. And I liked the "let's do this all together". :-) All's well that ends well. :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Adobe flash security - SOLUTION to firefox problem.

2014-04-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 07:11:42PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2014 17:49:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 13 April 2014 15:58:01 Артур Истомин wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > So, let's upgrade this stupid software manualy together =) > > > > Great, Артур!  Thanks. > > > > > links:

Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-14 Thread Артур Истомин
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 06:44:06PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2014 17:49:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > But I am still getting, as I did in the first place, > > > > Installed plugins > > Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck > > Shockwave Flash > > > > Fi

Re: Adobe flash security - SOLUTION to firefox problem.

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 14 April 2014 17:49:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 13 April 2014 15:58:01 Артур Истомин wrote: > [snip] > > > So, let's upgrade this stupid software manualy together =) > > Great, Артур!  Thanks. > > > links: > > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350 > >/i in

Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 14 April 2014 17:49:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > But I am still getting, as I did in the first place, > > Installed plugins > Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck > Shockwave Flash > > File: libflashplayer.so > Path: /home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.s

Re: Re: mtp://[usb:001,022]/131074

2014-04-14 Thread mikah
I got it working by following this page: http://roger.steneteg.org/299/mount-mtp-device-on-debian-7-wheezy/ supports copy from device, except it seems to only copy media files, (text and nfo doesn't work) So i guess for now, a virtualbox is required to copy all the files i wanna copy :( -- To

Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 April 2014 15:58:01 Артур Истомин wrote: [snip] > So, let's upgrade this stupid software manualy together =) Great, Артур! Thanks. > links: > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350/i >install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz - for amd64 > http://fpdownl

Re: installing lenny package

2014-04-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.04.2014 18:23, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:20 AM, wrote: The package my colleague needs is iptraf, from lenny. Is it the same as iptraf in Wheezy? https://packages.debian.org/stable/net/iptraf ChrisA It seems yes, there are only 2 debian versions between th

Re: installing lenny package

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:20 AM, wrote: > The package my colleague needs is iptraf, from lenny. Is it the same as iptraf in Wheezy? https://packages.debian.org/stable/net/iptraf ChrisA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: installing lenny package

2014-04-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.04.2014 18:08, Reco a écrit : Hi. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:59:20PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hi. We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian. I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only learned it's existence at the momen

Re: installing lenny package

2014-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:59:20PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Hi. > > We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian. > > I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only > learned it's existence at the moment. To do things quickly, we h

installing lenny package

2014-04-14 Thread berenger . morel
Hi. We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian. I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only learned it's existence at the moment. To do things quickly, we have to find an old copy of the packages. Maybe there is an old iso of lenny somewhere? --

Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread ray
Marko, > Of course you are, in one of previous posts you got a solution but looks > like you missed it :) Thank you for responding. I have overlooked it a couple times now; going back through, I don't see it. Please suggest what it was, I can't see what I am missing. Ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: No windows decoration only on some apps

2014-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:46:52PM +0100, José Silva wrote: > Hello, > > I have a sid system since a long time and I'm very happy with it. It > started using gnome 2 when I switched from MS but now has xfce and > compiz using the common Glossy theme. > > Since a few weeks, some applications

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread David Guntner
For those interested: http://mashable.com/2014/04/09/heartbleed-bug-websites-affected/ --Dave smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:55:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > ... > > considering it is a catastrophe worse than the Y2K bug. > > This is several orders of magnitude less severe than Y2K. I read https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/he

Re: best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
PaulNM wrote: On 04/13/2014 10:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a (larger) USB stick from that file all using dd. It is here: http://paste.debian.net/93598 That's small enough that you should have included it in the emai

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/14/2014 6:41 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 14/04/14 23:31, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, you shouldn't focus only on banks either. There are a lot of popular services that use free software a lot, some of which happen to include payment functionality. >> I did not "focusing on bank

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Andre
is it really necessary to discuss this on this list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c62d2a36796a92df309092b679802...@cyberh0me.net

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/04/14 19:49, Curt wrote: > On 2014-04-14, Richard Hector wrote: >> >> This one, on the other hand, was generally not predicted, and was widely >> exploited before people got a chance to fix it. That's presumably still >> going on. > > Widely exploited? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear

Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Bruno Schneider
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM, ray wrote: > > I did not find the fglrx package in Synaptic. I did find some multiarch > packages which I installed. But the initial error of not finding the > architecture was persistent. > It is in the non-free section. Perhaps you have not include that secti

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Richard Hector > wrote: >> >> The only local bank I've heard any info about is Kiwibank, who are >> apparently not vulnerable due to running their systems on Windows. > > > That's a laugh. Not vulnerable to this

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 14/04/14 23:31, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> > BTW, you shouldn't focus only on banks either. There are a lot of > >> > popular services that use free software a lot, some of which happen to > >> > include payment functionality. > > I did no

Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 09:33 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > In what sense do you mean hacked? > > Cracked, as in passwords and other sensitive information > > Exactly in this way. But how serious is the current exposure? I was trying to sep

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stan Hoeppner: > On 4/14/2014 5:53 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> Stan Hoeppner: >>> >>> This problem only exists *if* these devices connect to a compromised or >>> rogue host via SSL/TLS *and* the user hasn't reset and or deleted >>> locally cached usernames and passwords. >> >> That is not the wh

No windows decoration only on some apps

2014-04-14 Thread José Silva
Hello, I have a sid system since a long time and I'm very happy with it. It started using gnome 2 when I switched from MS but now has xfce and compiz using the common Glossy theme. Since a few weeks, some applications ceased to show windows decorations, or at least not having the configured

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/04/14 23:31, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> > BTW, you shouldn't focus only on banks either. There are a lot of >> > popular services that use free software a lot, some of which happen to >> > include payment functionality. > I did not "focusing on banks". I replied to Chris Bannister's statement >

Re: OpenVPN + Heartbleed question

2014-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:31:18AM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > It might be possible for an openvpn server to initiate a heartbeat sequence > with a client. And therefore for a rogue server to exploit this. I don't > believe > this to be the case however and I can't think of any other way of

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/14/2014 5:53 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Stan Hoeppner: >> On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >>> Then there is also the very serious issue of embedded devices using >>> openssl. Tablets, smartphones, routers, ... etc. etc. >> >> This problem only exists *if* these devices conne

Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-14, Joel Rees wrote: >> Secondly - do you know who runs it? I don't. If I wanted to harvest a >> bunch of potentially vulnerable sites, setting up a test site is how I'd >> do it ... >> >> Richard > > > Thank you, Richard, for expressing that better than I could. I know (and so would

Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
Heads up, guys! On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 13/04/14 23:43, Curt wrote: > > On 2014-04-13, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >> On 20h20 12 de Abril de 2014, Steve Litt wrote: > >>> I'm changing every password: That's about 100 of them. > >> > >> That's a good thing t

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stan Hoeppner: > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> Then there is also the very serious issue of embedded devices using >> openssl. Tablets, smartphones, routers, ... etc. etc. > > This problem only exists *if* these devices connect to a compromised or > rogue host via SSL/TLS *an

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-14, Brian wrote: > > The increase in the bank balances of many consultants is well-documented > as part of the history of the Y2K period. What is is still under discussion > is whether the failure of a set of traffic lights in Alice Springs was its > only major effect. > My understandin

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-14, Richard Hector wrote: > > My understanding is that it has been widely exploited _since_ disclosure. > > I could be wrong, of course - I think I heard it in chat around the office. > No kidding. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/04/14 21:49, Curt wrote: > On 2014-04-14, Richard Hector wrote: >> > >> > This one, on the other hand, was generally not predicted, and was widely >> > exploited before people got a chance to fix it. That's presumably still >> > going on. > Widely exploited? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-14, Richard Hector wrote: > > This one, on the other hand, was generally not predicted, and was widely > exploited before people got a chance to fix it. That's presumably still > going on. Widely exploited? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed Possible exploitation prior to disclo

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Brian
On Mon 14 Apr 2014 at 21:15:23 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 14/04/14 18:55, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > > This is several orders of magnitude less severe than Y2K. > > Y2K was extensively predicted, a lot of people did a lot of work to > avoid it, and in the end it wasn't very significant, n

Re: debian install wireless fails on laptop with Ralink RT3290 wireless, what to do?

2014-04-14 Thread didier gaumet
Le 14/04/2014 06:26, Britton Kerin a écrit : > The installer correctly detects a Ralink RT3290 and seems to think its > going to be > able to work with it, but then it always fails (I think at the DHCP > stage) to actually > manage to connect to the network. > > Has anyone else encountered this is

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/04/14 18:55, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > ... >> considering it is a catastrophe worse than the Y2K bug. > > This is several orders of magnitude less severe than Y2K. Y2K was extensively predicted, a lot of people did a lot of work to avoid it, an

Re: debmirror not installing libdigest-sha-perl, even though it is a dependency

2014-04-14 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Zenaan Harkness writes: > On 4/9/14, Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> Zenaan Harkness writes: >>> Any idea why the following: >>> >>> $ dpkg -s debmirror|grep Status >>> Status: install ok installed >>> >>> $ apt-cache show debmirror|grep Depends >>> Depends: perl (>= 5.10), libnet-perl, libdigest-md5-

Re: OpenVPN + Heartbleed question

2014-04-14 Thread shawn wilson
It might be possible for an openvpn server to initiate a heartbeat sequence with a client. And therefore for a rogue server to exploit this. I don't believe this to be the case however and I can't think of any other way of exploiting this. If you can get openvpn to use named sockets, you should be

OpenVPN + Heartbleed question

2014-04-14 Thread Alan Murrell
Hello All, I am not entirely sure if this is right place to ask, but I thought I would start here. We have a client who has several dozen remote locations all connected to the head office via OpenVPN tunnels. OpenVPN is form the Debian packages. The version of OpenSSL on the head offic