Neteja d'spam juliol del 2014

2014-08-03 Thread Adrià
Hola, Com que ja estem a juliol ja es poden processar tots els correus brossa del juliol del 2014. Recordeu que la lluita contra l'spam a les llistes en català la coordinem aquí: http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean Gràcies per la vostra ajuda!!! -- Adrià García-Alzórriz 0x09494C14 Lo

Re: Crash système suite mise à jour Jessie (non résolu mais abandonné )

2014-08-03 Thread Jean-Louis Giraud
O La procédure que tu m'as indiquée à fonctionné mais n'a pas suffit à restaurer mon système . Tant pis je vais employer la méthode bourrin et réinstaller ! Bonjour bonjour Réinstaller? C'est du langage windows désolé d'avoir dit un gros mot sur cette liste ;-) Pour réparer, as tu

Re: Moteur de recherche local

2014-08-03 Thread pmenier
Le 29/07/2014 14:54, Pierre TOUZEAU a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un serveur DEBIAN 7.5 utilisé avant tout pour du disque réseau (pour une cinquantaine d'utilisateurs sous Window$ 7) et quelques applications Web genre GRR. Les données sont dans des répertoires partagés par tous pour l'essentiel,sauf

[testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec les mises à jours sur testing. J'ai 2 machines toutes les 2 deux en testing avec les mêmes sources.list pour les dépôts debian (seule différence une a testing, l'autre jessie). Mon problème est que sur une il m'a bien mis à jour bluez en version 5 et que sur l'autre

Re: [testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Francois Lafont
Bonjour, Sur chacune des 2 machines, après avoir faire un apt-get update, que donne un : apt-cache policy bluez -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet

Re: [testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:13:53 +0200 Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Sur chacune des 2 machines, après avoir faire un apt-get update, que donne un : apt-cache policy bluez En fait après avoir relancer le processus de mise à jour tout est rentré dans l'ordre

Re: [testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Francois Lafont
Le 03/08/2014 15:43, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : En fait après avoir relancer le processus de mise à jour tout est rentré dans l'ordre pour bluez. Ah ok. Par contre Synaptic est toujours différent malgré que ce soit bien la même version ??? C'est vraiment sûr que les versions sont différentes

Re: [testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Francois Lafont
Le 03/08/2014 18:03, Francois Lafont a écrit : C'est vraiment sûr que les versions sont différentes ? ^^^ Oups ! Je voulais dire « identiques » bien sûr. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: [testing] mises à jours

2014-08-03 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:06:00 +0200 Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit: Le 03/08/2014 18:03, Francois Lafont a écrit : C'est vraiment sûr que les versions sont différentes ? ^^^ Oups ! Je voulais dire « identiques » bien sûr.

Re: [OT] Sistema de Archivos

2014-08-03 Thread Emmanuel Brenes
El 02/08/2014 23:57, Erick Ocrospoma escribió: 2014-08-02 19:59 GMT-05:00 Emmanuel Brenes brenil...@hotmail.com: Gracias por sus recomendaciones :-D - Luis Felipe. El problema es que, realmente no tengo presupuesto, y el computador es relativamente nuevo... así que, bueno, por ahora -aunque

Re: OT: Alternativa a NFS

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:17:32 +0200, Alberto escribió: El 02/08/14 17:53, Camaleón escribió: ... ¿Y qué protocolos te permite el NAS? pues desconozco si el kernel me limita más que lo del NFS, de momento SMB y SSHFS funcionan correctamente ¿Tienes acceso al NAS? Algunos firmwares te

Re: crontab no ejecuta nada

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 15:53:13 -0430, Andrew Pollard escribió: (...) Nota: En cuanto a lo que dices Camaleón, de que hay que dejar una línea en blanco al final en el editor de crontab porque de lo contrario no se ejecutará el script y no dirá nada es falso, lo pude comprobar. man 5 crontab

Re: (SOLUCIONADO) Re: Problema con permisos montando partición vfat

2014-08-03 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 02/08/14 a las #4, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 2 ago 2014 a las 15:16 horas (UTC+2), Eduardo Rios escribió: Al principio, cuando formateé la partición problemática /dev/sda7 de ext4 a FAT32, el volumen no aparecía en el apartado de Dispositivos de nautilus ¿Y no viste ninguna

Re: (SOLUCIONADO) Re: Problema con permisos montando partición vfat

2014-08-03 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 02/08/14 a las #4, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 15:16:09 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 02/08/14 a las #4, Eduardo Rios escribió: Ahora, recordando eso, he quitado el montaje desde /etc/fstab. He reiniciado, y aparece el volumen sin problemas en nautilus. Lo monta en otro

Re: Consulta sobre infraestructura en Debian, Brouter, etc

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 19:48:14 -0300, ciracusa escribió: On 02/08/14 11:07, Camaleón wrote: Es que verás, si no sabes lo que quieres proteger malamente te podemos Como llegas a esta conclusión? Pues leyendo tu pregunta ya que no aportas ningún tipo de dato. Yo si se lo que quiero proteger,

Re: vlans

2014-08-03 Thread Altair Linux
Creo que las vlan no es la única forma de hacer esto. Creo que, por poder, puedes segmentar la LAN varias veces pero para hacer eso necesitarás hardware de red (router posiblemente) y las conexiones por cable de red o wifi. Si prefieres hacerlo mediante software, virtualbox es una buena opción

Re: vlans

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 19:38:26 -0400, tony escribió: Tony, has secuestrado un hilo, abro uno nuevo. nesecito segmentar mired local Asegúrate bien antes de que esa necesidad está completamente fundamentada y no es caprichosa porque muchas veces la segmentación con redes virtuales o la creación

Re: ¿ha visto esta partición: /dev/sda5: LABEL=DATOS UUID=F820132C2012F17C TYPE=ntfs ?

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 19:43:54 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: El día 2 de agosto de 2014, 10:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Pues eso te dice que está montada en /media/DATOS (ejecuta ls -la /media/ * y mada la salida) ls -la /media/ total 36 drwxrwxrwx 4 root root

Re: vlans

2014-08-03 Thread sio2
El Sat, 02 de Aug de 2014, a las 07:38:26PM -0400, tony dijo: nesecito segmentar mired local y creo que de la única forma es trabajando con las famosas vlans, nunca las e utilizados pero para lo que quiero lograr [...] estas configuraciones tengo que realizarlas sobre debian 7.4, son dos pc

Re: Consulta sobre infraestructura en Debian, Brouter, etc

2014-08-03 Thread sio2
El Sat, 02 de Aug de 2014, a las 03:19:08PM +0200, Mariano Cediel dijo: Si quisieras enrutar ... openvpn ... pero como no es el caso ... openvpn también se puede usar en capa 2, y los extremos estarán en la misma red. Ahora bien, tiene buena pinta el enlace que has puesto. A ver si tengo un

Re: GLIBC_2.1.3 not defined in file libc.so.6??? acaso se daño mi servidor?

2014-08-03 Thread kazabe
El día 2 de agosto de 2014, 9:58, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:36:13 -0500, kazabe escribió: ¿Dónde lo encuentras? El mensaje aparece directamente en la terminal. Si el mensaje no te lo impide, intenta actualizar el sistema: apt-get update apt-get -V

Re: OT: Alternativa a NFS

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:29:59 +0200, Alberto escribió: El 02/08/14 17:53, Camaleón escribió: ... - SMB, no me vale, no respeta permisos y propietarios ¿Mande? :-? Son un incordio de configurar pero sí los respeta. te estas refiriendo a montar desde cada cliente, un recurso de cada Home

Re: GLIBC_2.1.3 not defined in file libc.so.6??? acaso se daño mi servidor?

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:40:05 -0500, kazabe escribió: El día 2 de agosto de 2014, 9:58, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:36:13 -0500, kazabe escribió: ¿Dónde lo encuentras? El mensaje aparece directamente en la terminal. ¿Pero cuando ejecutas algún comando en

Re: GLIBC_2.1.3 not defined in file libc.so.6??? acaso se daño mi servidor?

2014-08-03 Thread Manolo Díaz
El viernes, 1 ago 2014 a las 23:36 horas (UTC+2), kazabe escribió: Hola. Era un viernes tranquilo (demasiado tranquilo para mi gusto) cuando comencé a notar que algunos servicios estaban funcionando regular. Comienzo a revisar y encuentro este mensaje. symbol __cxa_æinalize, version

Re: OT: Alternativa a NFS

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
Gracias por tu respuesta, Camaleón, te contesto a los 2 sub-hilos que he formado :-P El 03/08/14 12:46, Camaleón escribió: ... ¿Tienes acceso al NAS? Algunos firmwares te permiten acceder mediante ssh para verle las tripas. como ya comentaba en uno anterior, he metido una Debian con

Re: vlans

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
El 03/08/14 13:17, Camaleón escribió: ... El swicth que tienes dispone de soporte para VLAN, por lo que salvo que necesites alguna configuración específica, no necesitas configurar Debian para trabajar con redes virtuales. exacto, la segmentación a nivel de switch es algo transparente para los

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
El 01/08/14 09:50, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Me sigue pasando lo mismo...Me llega la misma alerta...Tengo estos servidores que me aconsejastes: server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst server es.pool.ntp.org iburst remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 15:47 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 01/08/14 09:50, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Me sigue pasando lo mismo...Me llega la misma alerta...Tengo estos servidores que me aconsejastes: server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst server es.pool.ntp.org iburst

RE: [OT] Sistema de Archivos

2014-08-03 Thread jors
On 2 de agosto de 2014 06:21:38 CEST, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez franksanab...@live.com.co wrote: Ext4 puede manejar divinamente esos archivos, puede que xfs se ajuste a tus necesidades pero el rendimiento no se notara ya que dicho rendimiento con xfs se puede ser mas Visible con discos duros

Re: problemas con modulo pppd en Kernel 3.14-1-686-pae

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El día 31 de julio de 2014, 18:22, Pablo M. Drake adminen...@infomed.sld.cu escribió: (Recupero este correo de mi filtro. Cuidad donde mandáis los correos...) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:30:06 +, Pablo M. Drake escribió: Ayer realice una actualizacion

Re: samba4

2014-08-03 Thread Camaleón
El día 1 de agosto de 2014, 16:50, tony t...@sumag.co.cu escribió: (otro correo recuperado...) On 01/08/2014 10:44 a.m., Camaleón wrote: El Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:30:25 -0400, tony escribió: hola lista estoy intentando montar un PDC con samba4 pero cuando ejecuto este comando samba-tool

Re: [OT] Sistema de Archivos

2014-08-03 Thread Emmanuel Brenes
El 03/08/2014 09:03, jors escribió: On 2 de agosto de 2014 06:21:38 CEST, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez franksanab...@live.com.co wrote: Ext4 puede manejar divinamente esos archivos, puede que xfs se ajuste a tus necesidades pero el rendimiento no se notara ya que dicho rendimiento con xfs se

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
El 03/08/14 17:06, Manolo Díaz escribió: El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 15:47 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 01/08/14 09:50, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Me sigue pasando lo mismo...Me llega la misma alerta...Tengo estos servidores que me aconsejastes: server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 19:49 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 03/08/14 17:06, Manolo Díaz escribió: El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 15:47 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 01/08/14 09:50, Maykel Franco escribió: ... Me sigue pasando lo mismo...Me llega la misma alerta...Tengo estos

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
El 03/08/14 20:22, Manolo Díaz escribió: ... alberto@apevia:~$ ntpdc -p remote local st poll reach delay offsetdisp === *RouterWrt 192.168.1.10 4 128 377 0.00032 -0.001888 0.10770 como

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 21:25 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 03/08/14 20:22, Manolo Díaz escribió: ... alberto@apevia:~$ ntpdc -p remote local st poll reach delay offsetdisp ===

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Alberto
El 03/08/14 21:42, Manolo Díaz escribió: ... Esas cifras que Maykel ha pegado no creo que difieran mucho a las que mostraría tu router que, a diferencia de tu ordenador, no tiene una conexión directa con el servidor de stratum 3 (por lo que muestras en tu correo). Si puedes logarte en tu router

RE: Disco duro detectado pero no deja montar

2014-08-03 Thread Nestor
-Mensaje original- De: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com] Enviado el: sábado, 02 de agosto de 2014 18:04 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Disco duro detectado pero no deja montar El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:40:40 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Después de probar

Re: Error información desconocida en ntp Debian Wheezy

2014-08-03 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 3 ago 2014 a las 22:11 horas (UTC+2), Alberto escribió: El 03/08/14 21:42, Manolo Díaz escribió: ... Esas cifras que Maykel ha pegado no creo que difieran mucho a las que mostraría tu router que, a diferencia de tu ordenador, no tiene una conexión directa con el servidor de stratum

Re: U/efi i Wheezy eller Jessie

2014-08-03 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 2 augusti 2014 18:33 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com: Idag har jag bara datorer med BIOS. Om jag slår sönder min sparbössa och köper en dator med U/efi. Känner Debian igen detta, och gör en U/efi installation ? Eller måste man in och göra en manuell partionering på hårddiskarna ?

/usr on own filesystem, not already mounted -- yeech!

2014-08-03 Thread David Baron
Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play. The Debian installer itself will place /usr on it own partition/filesystem. So what gives? Is it now required that /usr be on on part of the root filesystem?

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) running on Debian 6, I went to the

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: There must be an alternative to Skype. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fed-up-with-skype-here-are-6-of-the-best-free-alternatives/ In theory but not in practice - unless you want to use one of the

Re: systemd waisted 5 hours of my work time today

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: In this case, yeah, experimental is experimental, but there are limits. And that was not

Re: /usr on own filesystem, not already mounted -- yeech!

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play. The Debian installer itself will place /usr on it own partition/filesystem. So what

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/02/2014 03:15 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Aug 2014 at 12:24:46 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages to fly past at a bewildering speed and then for

Re: Bug#736258: acpid won't stop, won't upgrade (systemd) - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736258

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: [snip] Is there a reason debian-user is subscribed to this bug report? Please don't top-post. Probably because it's a debian-user@ thread that resulted in the the bug report and we were added to the cc as a

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: What about Google Hangouts? That might be a reasonable substitute Google? That is even more sinister than the NSA, isn't it? The NSA doesn't drive around suburbia,

Re: /usr on own filesystem, not already mounted -- yeech!

2014-08-03 Thread Joe
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:59:17 +0300 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play. The Debian installer itself will place /usr on it own partition/filesystem. So what

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Jaikumar Sharma
I've noticed that when I upgrade a kernel image, the prior one appears to be removed. So, at any time there is only one kernel image in /boot. As stated by others; certainly old kernel is not removed after upgrade, you might be doing something tricky.. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Kenneth

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-08-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-08-03 09:16 +0200, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/02/2014 03:15 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Aug 2014 at 12:24:46 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: With sysvinit the default at booting is for the screen messages to fly

Re: /usr on own filesystem, not already mounted -- yeech!

2014-08-03 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 03 August 2014 08:46:59 Joe wrote: On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:59:17 +0300 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: Started to get this message several times in bootup or maybe was simply not quick enough to catch it before. Everything seems to play. The Debian installer itself will

Re: /dev/random5

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 12:31 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/02/2014 12:16 PM, Joel Rees wrote: As I understand it, he's asking whether any of us on the users list has anaylyzed the output of both /dev/random and /dev/urandom . Not just whether any of us are having issues with blocking, but with the

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: snip If you have a smart phone, chances are it is Android (Google owned IP and control) or iOS

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: snip In terms of hardware, I don't want any fingerprint readers, nor do I want any other unwanted spying /tools/ to be available to the spooks. Anything with

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au I do not have a smart phone - I have an Oldies Phone - an

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 August 2014 01:38:56 Chris Bannister wrote: Weird. So on these systems there are old packages which haven't been removed by the package manager? And on my Debian Wheezy system. I have four kernels, including three from Backports: 3.2, 3.12, 3.13, 3.14. I have removed 3.10 and

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: Microsoft and Google are great big US companies ... that's a problem just to start with; the US Government or any of their agents can easily destroy all your privacy any time they like. Are you

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Mark Carroll
Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com writes: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) whether it

Re: /dev/random5

2014-08-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:20:19 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: After you have formatted your volume, but before you start using it, you use dd to write /dev/zero to the entire volume -- due to the encryption process, those zeros will be just random data

The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-03 Thread Martin G. McCormick
I thought I had a pretty good idea how to do this but I obviously am missing something. I am replacing a nearly 20-year-old 10 GB conventional hard drive with a slightly-larger flash drive for / on a Debian-squeeze system; / on flash as it were. I know this can work as I have an

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-03 Thread AW
Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net writes: Copy MBR only of a hard drive: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=446 count=1 The last 64 bits of the 512 mbr contain partition information and this is where I may be all wet. I thought the disk-copy process took care of

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-03 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 08/03/2014 03:45 PM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: I thought I had a pretty good idea how to do this but I obviously am missing something. I am replacing a nearly 20-year-old 10 GB conventional hard drive with a slightly-larger flash drive for / on a Debian-squeeze system; / on

Re: systemd and resume (after sleep)

2014-08-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Aug 2014 at 19:02:36 +0200, Slavko wrote: OK, i did small progress :-) The issue is (seems) not related to systemd, it is caused by switching What did you do that led you to that conclusion? I think echo mem /sys/power/state is an init system independent way of suspending.

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-08-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 12:39:50 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 8/3/14, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Upstream for agetty responded to concerns about security from users, some of whom apparently had the compliance police breathing down their necks. My view on such idiocy is probably

Re: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir

2014-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu writes: Harry Putnam wrote: I guess encfs and its companion on windows of truecrypt have been declared serious security hazards... encfs is not even available .. at least in jessie repos. What are people using as a replacement? Hopefully something as

Re: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir

2014-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
B lazyvi...@gmx.com writes: On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:10:10 -0600 Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: Do you have more information on encfs being declared a security hazard? Your post is the first I've heard of it. http://defuse.ca/audits/encfs.htm (You'll note that dangerous

Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config (was New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root)

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:41:06 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2014 20:09:41 Brian wrote: When you reply threading is broken. Surely you can see that. Could be kmail of course. Replying from the digest breaks threads. I eschew KDE 4, so I don't know about

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:42:53 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:14:20 +0300 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: Hello David, Or is there some header or marker I should be hitting as well? Reference and/or Reply-To headers. The digest, depending on

Re: /dev/random

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:34:50 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 00:41:01 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: Thanks for reading I found it unreadable. Please let some air in!! Lisi LOL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Is crypto developed the way it should? - [WAS: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir]

2014-08-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:43:18 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Gack,,, I duplicated your posted URL before seeing your post You will rot in a windows-only hell for that! (without a debugger) *;-p) The question raise the underlying problems: * Is crypto a specialist affair? YES

Re: /dev/random

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 17:48:33 +0200 B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:34:50 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 00:41:01 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: Thanks for reading I found it unreadable. Please let some air in!! This is

Re: /dev/random

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 17:49:02 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 17:02:45 B wrote: But you didn't say it in your rant… I didn't rant. Lisi It's twu, it's twu! Lisi wrote two short sentences that took up less than one line. No rant. Her point was very

Re: /dev/random

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:15:22 -0700 Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 04:34:50PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 00:41:01 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: Thanks for reading I found it unreadable. Please let some air in!! Thank God. I

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 10:55:00 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Hello Steve, Yes, but *not* changing the Subject is an atrocity. I've often thought of piping everything with digest type Subjects to /dev/null. Another atrocity is these guys who leave the entire digest intact when

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 05:30:47 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) whether it be open or closed

Re: Theme control in Xfce4 [SOLVED]

2014-08-03 Thread Paul E Condon
Cleaning up some old business, long after the dust has settled. Steve's suggestion eliminated my need to install the old Crux, but only after I corrected his instructions. See below. (I want the correction in the list archive, so that I can find it when I forget.) Thanks, Steve. pec On

aptitude / apt-get status output

2014-08-03 Thread John Bleichert
After running update/upgrade, I always get the usual status messages: root@boogie:~# aptitude update ... Current status: 33 updates [+24], 25530 new [+24]. root@boogie:~# aptitude upgrade ... Current status: 9 updates [-24]. root@boogie:~# Is the meaning of this status line documented anywhere?

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:58:10AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2014 01:38:56 Chris Bannister wrote: Weird. So on these systems there are old packages which haven't been removed by the package manager? And on my Debian Wheezy system. I have four kernels, including three

Re: The Fine Art of Making a Bootable Drive

2014-08-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 03/08/2014 14:45, Martin G. McCormick a écrit : I am replacing a nearly 20-year-old 10 GB conventional hard drive with a slightly-larger flash drive for / on a Debian-squeeze system; / on flash as it were. I know this can work as I have an older version of debian on another box that

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 03/08/2014 11:58, Lisi Reisz a écrit : And on my Debian Wheezy system. I have four kernels, including three from Backports: 3.2, 3.12, 3.13, 3.14. I have removed 3.10 and 3.11. I originally installed 3.10 from Backports. Upgrading never seems to remove a kernel and never has. Don't

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread AW
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:41:17 +0100 Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: Quite an achievement, given that 99.% of MUAs quote correctly out of the box. I'm fairly old to Debian. I run a few email servers. I know the ins and outs of lots of things. And yet, I've rarely posted to mailing

Re: aptitude / apt-get status output

2014-08-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-08-03 18:04 +0200, John Bleichert wrote: After running update/upgrade, I always get the usual status messages: root@boogie:~# aptitude update ... Current status: 33 updates [+24], 25530 new [+24]. It means there are 33 upgradable packages, 24 more than before you ran aptitude

Re: aptitude / apt-get status output

2014-08-03 Thread John Bleichert
On 08/03/2014 12:44 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-08-03 18:04 +0200, John Bleichert wrote: snip root@boogie:~# aptitude upgrade ... Current status: 9 updates [-24]. 24 packages have been upgraded, presumably the same 24 that became upgradable by aptitude update, and 9 packages have been

Re: /dev/random5

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 10:48 PM, B wrote: On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:20:19 +1000 I do not agree with that because using only zeros makes the result part predictable for the attacker: if he knows what you wrote, he has a (very) large part of the cryptanalysis done… This is 1.0.1 of cryptanalysis: if

Re: Is crypto developed the way it should? - [WAS: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir]

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 4/08/2014 1:16 AM, B wrote: The question raise the underlying problems: snip * Should we pay for good crypto (and very good cryptanalysis)? I think YES (stop yelling, think crowfunding;), because good crypto skills are rare and thus expensive; furthermore, we need stable

Re: /dev/random5

2014-08-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 03:45:48 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: Yes, but the method of encryption used (aes-xts-plain64) does NOT lend itself to this kind of analysis. Not that we know of… XTS doesn't seem to be a right choice:

Re: Strange issue with `find' command

2014-08-03 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Dom to...@rpdom.net writes: On 02/08/14 09:20, Tixy wrote: On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 08:56 +0100, Dom wrote: [...] find . -name *.pdf will expand out to find . -name test1.pdf test2.pdf and there you get your error. But find . -name test1.pdf will remain unchanged as the

Re: fsck progress not shown on boot with systemd as pid 1

2014-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: Brian wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Just for the record I complain about that behavior. I don't like the fancy tty colors and always disable them. I don't like the screen clearing those away and so I always set the getty --noclear option. The problem is that while there

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 August 2014 17:10:33 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 03/08/2014 11:58, Lisi Reisz a écrit : And on my Debian Wheezy system. I have four kernels, including three from Backports: 3.2, 3.12, 3.13, 3.14. I have removed 3.10 and 3.11. I originally installed 3.10 from Backports.

Re: Exim4 not routing local mail, even after exim4-config (was New 64bit installation: Exim4 Send to Root)

2014-08-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 August 2014 15:48:54 Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:41:06 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2014 20:09:41 Brian wrote: When you reply threading is broken. Surely you can see that. Could be kmail of course. Replying from the digest

Re: Is crypto developed the way it should? - [WAS: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir]

2014-08-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 04:08:15 +1000 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: All good points, trouble I see is that even /good/ teams can become violated by someone ... NSA working with NIST is one example; This is why an international team is important, with redundant

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:38:16 -0400 AW debian.list.trac...@1024bits.com wrote: Hello AW, lists. So, I don't know what I'm doing with regards to top/bottom postings, quoting, etc... There are many good reasons why a particular Based on that and what you go on to say, it's obvious you're willing

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:32:09 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lisi, I have the impression, however, that when other packages are upgraded (moved on to a higher version) the previous package *is* removed. For the most part, that's true. With kernels though, removing a previous

Re: Retaining Older Kernels After Image Update

2014-08-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 03/08/2014 20:32, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Sunday 03 August 2014 17:10:33 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Don't confuse installing a new kernel (3.2 and 3.12 are different kernels, different packages names) and upgrading an installed kernel with a new release (same version, same package name,

Re: Threading using digest and kmail (was Re: Exim4 not routing local mail ... )

2014-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
David Baron wrote: Replying from the digest breaks threads. I eschew KDE 4, so I don't know about KMail in KDE4, but KDE3 KMail does not break threads. I do not understand the difference. If I hit reply, so I get the title of the digest which I replace with the desired re: Should

[SOLVED, but...] mounting a Nikon camera

2014-08-03 Thread jeremy bentham
Thanks for the replies. I can now peruse my photos with digikam, but I am not sure what it cost me; I suspect I'll find out when next I reboot. Installing digikam resulted, apparently, in pulling in half of kde--cruft to me--*and* a new initrd! I think I've had it with apt; dpkg from now on,

What is the connection between Microsoft and systemd?

2014-08-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
In caar43imat3mnetk+w_hf080n04krcad06zdpmcnis-amco1...@mail.gmail.com on 3 Aug 2014 08:21 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: (I don't use skype, in spite of my sister's hints, because, as much as possible, I don't want anything Microsoft touches on my stuff. When wheezy goes unsupported and the only

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