On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 00:40:21 +0200 lee sent:
> These two functions are described in the man page.
>
> BTW, either IconMan or IconBox are deprecated --- I don't remember
> which one.
Thanks Lee,
It was ButtonBar for laptop. I removed that entry in my menudefs.hook
and it is gone, no longer a wor
On 09/23/2014 12:11 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems,
and the replacement did not fix it. A modular system has to support
al
After a recent `aptitude dist-upgrade` I'm getting syslog messages
flooding the console, pages & pages of "Asset Found" stuff like:
Message from syslogd@mymachine at Sep 23 13:46:11 ...
... Asset Found: IP Address - 16.20.3.0 / MAC Address - 0:00:00:00:00:00#012[*]
Asset Found: IP Address - 26.2
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:22 +0100
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
wrote:
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html
Very, very nice, Jonathan! I'd be a lot happier person had the Debian
crew had selected nosh as PID 1 and the daemon manager, and had various
daemons m
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:04:42 +0100
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
wrote:
> Jonathan Dowland:
> > You need to write a .service file for your svscanboot script, and
> > put it in /etc/systemd/user.
>
> I did systemd units for this ages ago. It's better to do this as two
> units: a "path" unit that wat
John Hasler writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>
> lee wrote:
>> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
>> are the priority.
>
> I
Nate Bargmann writes:
> * On 2014 21 Sep 15:10 -0500, lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>>
>> > As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> > ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>>
>> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the us
Charlie writes:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:54:43 +0200 lee sent:
>
>> Why are things going wrong with it for you, and what
>> things?
>
> Lee,
>
> If I can jump in here re: fvwm. [fvwm 2.6.5] On my desktop I have this
> thing. I has two columns of squares which are labelled FileMGR - xv
> -gview an
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote:
> I'll have to look into doign this too. I'm sure there's an explanation
> to this considering things like u...@domain.ca and u...@host.domain.ca
> have different results but if the keys weren't hashed in known_hosts
> it would make troubleshooting a lot sim
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 03:59:56PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:26:36PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > Do you all of the ip addresses and hostnames listed for those keys in
> > > known_hosts?
> >
> > These are all servers
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:26:36PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > Do you all of the ip addresses and hostnames listed for those keys in
> > known_hosts?
>
> These are all servers I've been connecting to for years so I should
> have their IP and host keys
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 04:45:50PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Keith Lawson wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday I'm
> > getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've been connecting to
> > f
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:26:36PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote:
> > I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade
> > yesterday I'm getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've
> > been connecting to for years:
> >
> > The authe
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:34:02AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:20:26 -0400
> Keith Lawson wrote:
>
> > Is anyone aware of any changes in openssh-client in
> > jessie that would cause certain server keys that were previously
> > working to be invalid?
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> You
Hi -
I've been running into somewhat inconsistent behavior with DNS short
name resolution in Debian across a few systems.
Here's the behavior that I've occasionally relied on over the years:
% cat /etc/resolv.conf
search example.com
nameserver 192.0.2.10
% host foo.bar.baz.example.com.
foo.bar.b
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Keith Lawson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday I'm
> getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've been connecting to
> for years:
>
IDK this has anything to do with the problem you're seeing (u
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Keith Lawson wrote:
> I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade
> yesterday I'm getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've
> been connecting to for years:
>
> The authenticity of host 'blah' can't be established.
> RSA key fingerprint is e8:08
T.J. Duchene:
> Why is it not possible to create a completely generic shell script -
> basically ala SysV that can parse systemd config files for those use cases
> where Systemd is undesirable?
Your question takes a falsehood as its premise. It is far from
impossible to parse .INI files with s
On 2014-09-23 21:39 +0200, Paul Zimmerman wrote:
> The recent security fixes to apt have broken its behavior with the DVD
> install. It doesn't seem possible to have the DVD lines in
> sources.list along with the repository entries anymore, which means
> you are now stuck downloading anything and
The recent security fixes to apt have broken its behavior with the DVD install.
It doesn't seem possible to have the DVD lines in sources.list along with the
repository entries anymore, which means you are now stuck downloading anything
and everything you want to install regardless of whether it
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 21:09:30 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 23/09/2014 20:46, Brian a écrit :
> > You do not like that systemd will be the default init system for Jessie.
> > Tough. Exercise your choice not to have it. Or is easier to moan rather
> > than just get on with using sysvinit?
> >
> >
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 16:21:53 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-09-23, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > What would be a good substitute for the broad, aquamarine borders?
> >
>
> Well here in France we're humanitarians and have Bloggers Without Borders
> (BWB).
:)
La réponse parfaite. Il n'y a pas de rép
Le 23/09/2014 20:46, Brian a écrit :
> On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 19:30:34 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
>
>> Compare it to to a init system which is the main reason to choose a
>> desktop environment...
>>
>> See
>> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/debian-switches-back-to-gnome-from-xfce.html
>>
>>
>> So syt
On 2014-09-22 05:45 +0200, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> The package systemd-sysv installs a symlink ./sbin/init ->
> /lib/systemd/systemd. The system fails to boot, complaining that
> "/sbin/init"
> can't be found. In bug #750360, I found a workaround that I have been using
> for several months
Jonathan Dowland:
> You need to write a .service file for your svscanboot script, and
> put it in /etc/systemd/user.
I did systemd units for this ages ago. It's better to do this as two
units: a "path" unit that watches the service directory and a
"service" unit that is started when the service d
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 19:30:34 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Compare it to to a init system which is the main reason to choose a
> desktop environment...
>
> See
> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/debian-switches-back-to-gnome-from-xfce.html
>
>
> So sytemd does in fact orient *everything*. You are
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 13:40:02 -0400, Mike McGinn wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:54:44 Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> > I just had a look and didn't realise how closely Debian is reliant on the
> > C language! Surely, this can't be good!
>
> The entire kernel is written in C. A lang
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 12:58:26 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:11:03 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Let's discuss your analogies...
>
> === Depending on glibc ===
> True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose
> agenda is less harmful to Linux than the
op 21-09-14 21:26, Sven Hartge schreef:
> Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> op 21-09-14 13:40, Sven Hartge schreef:
>
>>> You cannot install it in a way t run it side by side. By installing
>>> the libc6 package from Jessie it will overwrite the one from Wheezy.
>>> This is how the package manager work
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:54:44 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:11:03PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
> > > 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
> > > it. Being tied to one init system is what ca
op 23-09-14 00:30, Robert Crawford schreef:
> Computer is HP Pavilion a230n tower with 768mb ram 120 hd agp Nvidia
> Riva TNT2 with 32mb ram card.
>
> Installed standard desktop (Gnome3), I was getting error message about
> Gnome 3 crashing,
The default Gnome3 is 3D. I think you can only run thi
Le 23/09/2014 18:58, Steve Litt a écrit :
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:11:03 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
>>> 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
>>> it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems,
>>> a
The Wanderer writes:
> All very reasonable, at each step. I'm not sure I see much problem
> with it in practice, either...
I do. It's what leads to an image manipulation program depending on a
particular init system.
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:11:03 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
> >
> > 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
> > it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems,
> > and the replacement did not fix it. A modula
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:09:39 -0700
Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
> > Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy? I
> > keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
> > the backported version, cleared
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:11:03PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
> >
> > 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
> > it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems,
> > and the replacement did not fix it. A m
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 02:30:02PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2014 22 Sep 14:24 -0500, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > If what you some way to control your phone via your PC, SSH X11 Forwarding
> > won't help. But there may be applications that allow that (at least
> > partially). Probably
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:33:01PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
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> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:04:33PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> >> As best I can dredge it up quickly, the dependency chain is:
>
On Ma, 23 sep 14, 11:37:22, John Hasler wrote:
> Why in heaven's name does Gimp require audio?
It doesn't. Gimp depends on libgegl (Generic Graphics Library) which
depends on libsdl (Simple DirectMedia Layer) which also supports audio
and is thus compiled with support for pulseaudio (depends on
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> Why in heaven's name does Gimp require audio?
AFAIK, it doesn't.
It does require graphics handling, though.
One of the libraries it uses for that relies on an SDL library.
That SDL library in turn
Why in heaven's name does Gimp require audio?
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On 09/23/2014 at 12:21 PM, Reco wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:04:33PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> As best I can dredge it up quickly, the dependency chain is:
>>
>> gimp -> libgegl-0.2-0 -> libsdl1.2debian -> libpulse0 ->
>> libsystemd-
On Du, 21 sep 14, 22:45:44, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not interested in a debate over systemd. But I have a boot issue and since
> there isn't a bug that matches the symptoms, I suspect my setup may be
> peculiar and I'm hoping someone may have some insight.
>
> The package systemd-sys
On 2014-09-23, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> What would be a good substitute for the broad, aquamarine borders?
>
Well here in France we're humanitarians and have Bloggers Without Borders
(BWB).
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On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote:
>
> 1) The goal is "modular Debian." Multi-init is the means to achieve
> it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems,
> and the replacement did not fix it. A modular system has to support
> all init systems, including systemd, clones
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:50:04AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Bannister"
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 + "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It woun't kill any detract
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:04:33PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> As best I can dredge it up quickly, the dependency chain is:
>
> gimp -> libgegl-0.2-0 -> libsdl1.2debian -> libpulse0 ->
> libsystemd-id128-0
Close, but no cigar :) On this system libsystemd-id128-0 is not
installed, and aptitude te
Thanks.
Danilo Sampaio
Analista de Sistemas Sr.
Capgemini
Em 23/09/2014 10:13, "Joel Rees" escreveu:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Danilo Sampaio
> wrote:
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > Terminal IDE is not exactly what i'm looking for. I need control my
> android
> > phone from PC. I'm looking for a
Am Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:01:36 -0400 schrieb PaulNM:
> Questions for the OP:
> Is the Desktop always on? If so, it could be the master server.
No the Desktop is only used if the screens of the notebooks are to
small. ;-)
> Do you want to sync even if the laptops are not home, not just have
> co
On 9/23/2014 11:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 23 sep 14, 08:35:49, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>> A much closer example would be if you only had one tractor dealer
>> available, and he decided only to carry one tractor.
>
> There is only one tractor available, because the builders of other
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On 09/23/2014 at 11:35 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:50:46PM +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Gimp already depends on (parts of) systemd in current stable.
>> Do you know a way to install gimp without installing (parts of)
>> systemd
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:22:05AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> * Get rid of run levels.
> >
> > And the reason for this change is? Runlevels are good where they are,
> > even if you don't use them.
>
> Well, openbsd doesn't have runlevels, and it gets along just fine.
>
> openbsd does have some
On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote:
>
> This is a reasonably powerful notebook that is probably running
> Windows, not MSDOS.
Well, at least here there are quite a few laptops for sale with only
FreeDOS ;)
> Any version of Linux will probably run fairly
> well on it. It doesn't use any
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:44:41 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2014-09-23, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > Blogging *is* a good idea. I'll consider that. Thanks.
> >
>
> Please lose those broad aquamarine borders if you blog. They're
> butt-ugly.
What would be a good substitute for the broad, aquamarine
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 10:59:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:08:35 +0100
> Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 07:57:37PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Funtoo is most famous for a permanent ban on systemd.
> >
> > As interesting a
- Original Message -
> From: "Chris Bannister"
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
> > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> > >
> > > It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what
> > > breaks, to help us to get a Deb
On Du, 21 sep 14, 05:14:25, lee wrote:
>
> Try to help by providing translations, and you'll find it's impossible
> because there's nowhere and no one to offer such service.
I'd like to answer to this point, but I'm not quite sure what you mean
by it. Could you please clarify or maybe give some
On 2014-09-23, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Blogging *is* a good idea. I'll consider that. Thanks.
>
Please lose those broad aquamarine borders if you blog. They're
butt-ugly.
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:27:24 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Joe writes:
> > I can hack the odd script and drive a compiler, so if there were to
> > be existing software that could do the job with a bit filed off
> > here and there, I'd have a go. But having done a bit more reading
> > recently, it se
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:20:26 -0400
Keith Lawson wrote:
> Is anyone aware of any changes in openssh-client in
> jessie that would cause certain server keys that were previously
> working to be invalid?
Hi Keith,
You said "certain" server keys. If I were you, that's where I'd hang my
hat. Make a
Hi.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:50:46PM +0200, lee wrote:
> Gimp already depends on (parts of) systemd in current stable. Do you
> know a way to install gimp without installing (parts of) systemd? And
> gimp is not the only thing with a dependency like this.
That's actual dependencies for the g
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:19:50 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 14:53:15 Joe wrote:
> > As Lisi and others have pointed out, the
> > design of systemd and the decision of Debian to make systemd the
> > 'default', or in practice the only init system, are set in stone.
> > There
On Lu, 22 sep 14, 16:17:13, Ric Moore wrote:
> So, I do not recommend the upgrade process from Wheezy to Jessie
> as a general rule.
I think it's still too early in the release cycle to make such
recommendations. Based on my experience with Debian so far I trust
upgrading bugs to be dealt with
Joe writes:
> I can hack the odd script and drive a compiler, so if there were to be
> existing software that could do the job with a bit filed off here and
> there, I'd have a go. But having done a bit more reading recently, it
> seems likely that any alternative init would have to be written from
On Ma, 23 sep 14, 08:35:49, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> A much closer example would be if you only had one tractor dealer
> available, and he decided only to carry one tractor.
There is only one tractor available, because the builders of other
tractors retired. Some of the old tractors still seem
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 10:43:24 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I *really* wish I'd evangelized daemontools on this list before the
> majority of the systemd conversation occurred. Daemontools is much,
> much more than a substitute for any init.
You're an Evangelist? Here was me thinking you were one o
- Original Message -
> From: "Keith Lawson"
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday
> I'm getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've been
> connecting to for years:
>
> The authenticity of host 'blah' can't be established.
> R
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:49:52 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Joe writes:
> > ...the design of systemd and the decision of Debian to make systemd
> > the 'default', or in practice the only init system...
>
> Not true. "Default" just means that it's the init you get if you
> don't specify anything els
Hello,
I'm running jessie on my laptop and after doing a dist-upgrade yesterday
I'm getting SSH host key errors for a bunch of servers I've been
connecting to for years:
The authenticity of host 'blah' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is e8:08:db:b0:e7:38:57:d4:82:a8:a4:1c:42:f0:25:0
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:08:35 +0100
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 07:57:37PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Funtoo is most famous for a permanent ban on systemd.
>
> As interesting as your OS experiments are, I do wonder whether
> debian-user is the right pla
Joe writes:
> ...the design of systemd and the decision of Debian to make systemd
> the 'default', or in practice the only init system...
Not true. "Default" just means that it's the init you get if you don't
specify anything else. Other inits are allowed and encouraged but
_someone has to devel
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:29:20 +0200
Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
> Apparently Joel has (valid! ) other commitments. There are people
> willing and able to work on systemd. Unless someone else steps up
> with code or an online class in linux IPC, I'd say the case can be
> closed.
Huh? The whole point
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On 09/23/2014 at 10:19 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 14:53:15 Joe wrote:
>
>> As Lisi and others have pointed out, the design of systemd and
>> the decision of Debian to make systemd the 'default', or in
>> practice the only
On Sb, 20 sep 14, 14:02:43, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Further reading:
...
> http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html
A kind soul pointed out to me off-list that this link is dead. Apologize
for not checking, here is a link to the same document:
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
Kind regards,
And
On Tuesday 23 September 2014 14:53:15 Joe wrote:
> As Lisi and others have pointed out, the
> design of systemd and the decision of Debian to make systemd the
> 'default', or in practice the only init system, are set in stone.
> There's nothing to discuss.
I have never said anything of the kind.
On 23/09/14 at 10:02am, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Bob Proulx writes:
>
> > a2enmod takes a simple name like "cgi" not a name with .load or .conf
> > on the end like "cgi.load". You want "a2enmod cgi" without the
> > ".load" on the end.
>
> Yeah, I finally got that part.
>
> But still not seeing
Bob Proulx writes:
> a2enmod takes a simple name like "cgi" not a name with .load or .conf
> on the end like "cgi.load". You want "a2enmod cgi" without the
> ".load" on the end.
Yeah, I finally got that part.
But still not seeing what is bad about what I did... after all it did
allow the cgi
On 9/23/2014 9:36 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:35:49AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 9/23/2014 8:26 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
>
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 00:26:06 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
> > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what
> > > breaks, to help us t
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:35:49AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/23/2014 8:26 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> >> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
> >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> It woun't kill any detractors to try
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 11:32:59 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 09:55:36 Rick Thomas wrote:
>> > Without a working OS, you will need to find a way to eject the CD tray in
>> > order to boot from it. Here’s the trick:
>>
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:20:38PM -0700, John Conover wrote:
>
> Running "apt-get update" on one of my machines gives:
>
> W: Failed to fetch
> copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/Debian%20GNU_Linux%207%20%5fWheezy%5f%20-%20Official%20Snapshot%20i386%20LIVE_INSTALL%20Binary%2020140723-18:32_dis
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Danilo Sampaio
wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
> Terminal IDE is not exactly what i'm looking for. I need control my android
> phone from PC. I'm looking for a opensource project, because i'll probably
> make customizations.
Terminal IDE does have an ssh server. But it idoesn
On Tuesday 23 September 2014 11:32:59 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2014 09:55:36 Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Without a working OS, you will need to find a way to eject the CD tray in
> > order to boot from it. Here’s the trick:
>
> Don't Macs have paper-clip holes? (Genuine question - I
On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 08:27:27 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/22/2014 10:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> > There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this
> > list with cries of FUD! FUD!
>
>
>
> Well said, Joel. And it's interesting to see who reads it and who
> doesn't.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:09:39PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
> > Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy? I keep
> > getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
> > backported version, cle
On 9/23/2014 8:26 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
>> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what
>>> breaks, to help us to get a Debian system we can
Darac Marjal writes:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:20:38PM -0700, John Conover wrote:
> >
> > Running "apt-get update" on one of my machines gives:
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> > copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/Debian%20GNU_Linux%207%20%5fWheezy%5f%20-%20Official%20Snapshot%20i386%20LIVE_INST
On 9/22/2014 10:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this
> list with cries of FUD! FUD!
Well said, Joel. And it's interesting to see who reads it and who
doesn't. No surprises, I must say.
Jerry
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +
> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
>
>
> >
> > It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what
> > breaks, to help us to get a Debian system we can all be proud of
> > instead of talking up a sto
Hi Joel,
Terminal IDE is not exactly what i'm looking for. I need control my android
phone from PC. I'm looking for a opensource project, because i'll probably
make customizations.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/09/23 2:24 "Danilo Sampaio" :
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I
On 22/09/14 23:53, lee wrote:
And don't mention multiple sound cards (which Joe
can't even imagine to have) ...
Funnily enough, a substantial number of non-technical computer users do,
in fact, have multiple audio devices in their desktop computers. For
example, they might have a set of speak
On 23/09/14 00:53, lee wrote:
Fortunately, you don't even need to install it on Debian.
Except that in Wheezy an awful lot of packages depend on libpulse0 even
though they work perfectly well without Pulseaudio, and they'll create a
directory under $HOME that contains nothing more than a brok
On 09/23/2014 05:14 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
So my challenge is to you:
*Act* for change.
Instead of just venting your frustration here, which will do nothing,
absolutely and utterly nothing for any change! But basically the opposite, the
more energy you put into venting engaging here in
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:20:38PM -0700, John Conover wrote:
>
> Running "apt-get update" on one of my machines gives:
>
> W: Failed to fetch
> copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/Debian%20GNU_Linux%207%20%5fWheezy%5f%20-%20Official%20Snapshot%20i386%20LIVE_INSTALL%20Binary%2020140723-18:32_dis
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:54:43 +0200 lee sent:
> Why are things going wrong with it for you, and what
> things?
Sorry for the noise Lee. I found what the thing was called. It was a
laptop ButtonBar and I got rid of it.
So it's done.
Thanks for your help,
Charlie
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On Tuesday 23 September 2014 09:55:36 Rick Thomas wrote:
> Without a working OS, you will need to find a way to eject the CD tray in
> order to boot from it. Here’s the trick:
Don't Macs have paper-clip holes? (Genuine question - I haven't got access to
a Mac.)
Lisi
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On 23. sep. 2014 04:02, Joel Rees wrote:
[snipped]
Just to off-set the negative comments, I'd say Joel R. States his case
pretty well, though I think dropping the sarcasm-bit would have improved it.
I'll paraphrase my understanding of A FEW of Joel's points, just to see
if I read him correctl
On 2014-09-23, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 23. September 2014, 11:02:47 schrieb Joel Rees:
>> There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this
>> list with cries of FUD! FUD!
>
> Honestly: I stopped reading there.
>
I didn't get past the subject line.
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Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee:
> Martin Steigerwald writes:
> > Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee:
> >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> >> > Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are
> >> > trying
> >> > to work on the distribution to
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