Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 4:13 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Like numerous linux users I have sometimes lamented coming to terms with > systemd. My belief is that it's a well-written collection of software which > is somewhat over-engineered. It f

Re: libreboot? Doc to follow? -- Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > f...@areyouforthepeople.org wrote: >> >>Hello: >> >>2 things: >> >>a. Even given all of their recent "damage" to themselves, >>how does Libreboot play into this? Is there a guide with respect to >>Debian that people can use to go the Libreb

Fwd: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 4:13 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Like numerous linux users I have sometimes lamented coming to terms with > systemd. My belief is that it's a well-written collection of software which > is somewhat over-engineered. It fills a need, sure, though I've managed to > live an

RE: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-21 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> I installed on a Dell (don't recall the model number now, but it's a >> recent model), and I found that the firmware appears to be buggy, in >> that you can specify a UEFI installation to boot, and it shows the >> setting you enter, but it ignores that setting and boots only to the >> d

Re: Intel I281-LM network card not working with Debian Stable

2017-04-21 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 21/04/17 22:27, Siebrand Klein wrote: Dear Debian-users list, I have a computer with one Intel I218-LM and two Intel I210 network adapters. The I210's are found correctly, but the I218 isn't. Can anyone give me some advice on how to get the I218 up and running? I found some (old) information t

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 20:25:46 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 19/04/2017 à 09:46, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : > > > >Question: You have a system with everything on a HD /dev/sda, you use > >/dev/sdb a live disk to boot and install debian on /dev/sdc including > >the grub on /dev/sdc > >You unplug

Re: Spam on Debian lists

2017-04-21 Thread Dan Norton
On 04/20/2017 05:52 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: fc: Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? You have no idea *how much* spam is blocked by the work of the list masters. But it's not that anybody monitors all o

Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

2017-04-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:42:58PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I believe the design of that button is flawed. > It *ONLY* asks if respondent considers that message to be "SPAM". This is the button's task. It's stating: "hey, listmasters: lo

Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

2017-04-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: > I believe the design of that button is flawed. > It *ONLY* asks if respondent considers that message to be "SPAM". All reported posts are human-reviewed before any action is taken. That button just flags the post as something that needs human review.

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Like numerous linux users I have sometimes lamented coming to terms with systemd. My belief is that it's a well-written collection of software which is somewhat over-engineered. It fills a need, sure, though I've managed to live and work without it for a long time (been using linux since 1994). And

Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

2017-04-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Apr 2017 at 12:42:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/21/2017 10:51 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, fc wrote: > >>Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > > >Yes, listmas...@lists.debian.org does. > > > >>I see these types of things come

Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

2017-04-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/21/2017 10:51 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, fc wrote: Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? Yes, listmas...@lists.debian.org does. I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 delete on the front end could prevent a lot of w

Re: Actually [Re: Some spam]

2017-04-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, fc wrote: > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? Yes, listmas...@lists.debian.org does. > I see these types of things come through periodically -- and 1 delete > on the front end could prevent a lot of woe. We discard large swaths of spam. Some i

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-21 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Joel Rees: > > I wish I didn't have to put my conspiracy theorist hat on here, but I > suspect that many in HP's management are fearful of upsetting the 800 > pound gorilla/elephant in the room. > > Neither Microsoft nor Intel seem to have any desire to understand > where the technology on which t

Re: fcgiwrap systemd

2017-04-21 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
On 04/21/2017 10:46 AM, Basti wrote: > Hello, > I try to use fcgiwrap on debian jessie (systemd). Now i need it as > socket (fcgiwrap.socket) and also as tcp (fcgiwrap.service). > As I can see it only start one of then or in other words only one is > available . > > Is there a way to start socket

Intel I281-LM network card not working with Debian Stable

2017-04-21 Thread Siebrand Klein
Dear Debian-users list, I have a computer with one Intel I218-LM and two Intel I210 network adapters. The I210's are found correctly, but the I218 isn't. Can anyone give me some advice on how to get the I218 up and running? I found some (old) information that a newer version of the e1000e kerne

fcgiwrap systemd

2017-04-21 Thread Basti
Hello, I try to use fcgiwrap on debian jessie (systemd). Now i need it as socket (fcgiwrap.socket) and also as tcp (fcgiwrap.service). As I can see it only start one of then or in other words only one is available . Is there a way to start socket and service at same time? Best Regards, Basti

Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

2017-04-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:57:20AM +, 慕 冬亮 wrote: Dear all, After I reverted BIOS back to default setting, I found some following error messages related to ACPI: [    0.847234] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THM] (25 C) [    0.847347] ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H_EC.ECAV] Namespace looku

Re: How to fix "dell_laptop: Setting old previous keyboard state failed"

2017-04-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:49:09AM +, 慕 冬亮 wrote: Dear all, After I reverted BIOS back to default setting, I found some errors  at boot stage of My Debian Testing. [    2.513354] dell_laptop: Setting old previous keyboard state failed How do I fix this problem? A quick googli

Re: Spam on Debian lists (was: Actually)

2017-04-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:52:39PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:40:56 +0200 Jochen Spieker > wrote: > > > fc: > > > > > > Actually -- does anyone monitor this list for this type of stuff? > > > > You have no idea *how much*