Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > I am not sure if grub can boot off GPT without UEFI. That's the use case of the GRUB BIOS boot partition with Type GUID 21686148-6449-6e6f-744e656564454649. See "GPT" section in https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/BIOS-installation.html It is necessary

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > The OP has described a problem with a ~2006 laptop which, as far as > I can understand it, involves GPT devices (as well as MBR ones), > and *BIOS* booting. > I am not sure if grub can boot off GPT without UEFI. I honestly never thought of this. For me both go hand in hand.

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-07-03 11:08, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: Donate it to the curbside pickup. +1 On 2020-07-03 11:58, Michael Stone wrote: > For practical purposes, you'd be better off

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:49 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > Debian with xfce or mate or cinnamon may install and run well. I don't > recommend gnome. > +1 Funny story: A few years ago, I installed a Text-only Minimal Ubuntu system and then made one of the worst single commands in my career: "apt-ge

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 21:04:44 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Matthew Campbell wrote: > > > Nothing seems good enough. Do you want a picture? I'm not typing all of > > that in on my tablet. Some people post pictures to appropriate sites when it's not possible to copy the text (eg, in the BIOS, runnin

Computer Museum (was Re: Very old hardware...)

2020-07-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
This is, actually something I would like to do. Anyone know of good Computer Museums in areas they've been in? (I remember a good one, South of San Francisco, but that's on the other side of the Country from North Carolina). I have a couple that I REALLY want to make work, in a Museum Environmen

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 16:59:25 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 04:49:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > Interesting blog, but falls face first in its morning oatmeal > > because the local insulation is not perfect [...] nominally .0001 > > degrees above absolute zer

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 04:49:50PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Interesting blog, but falls face first in its morning oatmeal because the > local insulation is not perfect [...] nominally .0001 degrees above > absolute zero [...] Trying to picture oatmeal at 1e-4 Kelvin, I think I give up

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:17:33 +0200 Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; It might be useful to identify the manufacturer of the computer or motherboard, and search the Internet for documentation. You may want to a

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 16:19:15 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > On reflection, a typo in a command may have consequences, unlike > > mispeling Debain. So I accept the criticism is not bad form. > > OTOH, having command names which on

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > On reflection, a typo in a command may have consequences, unlike > mispeling Debain. So I accept the criticism is not bad form. OTOH, having command names which only differ in letter case is somewhat... evil? > Meanwhile, I am tryin

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, economically and ecologically it makes few sense to let old computers do real work, even if they are for free. The ratio of power consumption to computing power is like with an old 100 W light bulb. But as exhibition object 'tis ok. :)) Davide Lombardo wrote: > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; >

grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/ “loopop1”

2020-07-03 Thread Srinivas Kotamarti
I am getting this error grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of ``/dev/loop0p1" when I try to install grub on a partition of a loop device. I perform the following steps to create a partition on the loop device and install grub 1. Create a raw qemu image qemu-img create /anroot/.packa

Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > Nothing seems good enough. Do you want a picture? I'm not typing all of > that in on my tablet. Let's just let it go. I'm working on understanding > grub. I'm going to boot from a USB flash drive. When I want to boot from the USB drive with GPT configured I first make su

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 07:17:33PM +0200, Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... D

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 11:06:42 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 09:23:26 +0200 > wrote: > > > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > > > > > But, for want of a better response, you could not resist comme

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 7/3/20 8:17 PM, Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > DRAM: 64 MB SDDR > GPU: RIVA TNT-2 > HARDISK: 10 GB > FLOPPY DISK DRIVE > MODEM 56K > In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... > Do you

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Christian Groessler
3000 Lire? Did you mean 3.000,000 Lire? regards, chris On 2020-07-03 19:17, Davide Lombardo wrote: Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is written

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, July 3, 2020 12:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: > > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz;

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2020, 19:17:33 CEST schrieb Davide Lombardo: Yeah, try debian/i386 with LXDE. It will run as fast as WindowsXP with a 2GHz singlecore cpu. Graphics speed will run fast enough for office applications like libreoffice, but not for games. Oh, does it run Doom? Of course! OpenG

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 13:17:33 Davide Lombardo wrote: > Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: > CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; > DRAM: 64 MB SDDR > GPU: RIVA TNT-2 > HARDISK: 10 GB > FLOPPY DISK DRIVE > MODEM 56K > In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today

Re: Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Debian with xfce or mate or cinnamon may install and run well. I don't recommend gnome. On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Davide Lombardo wrote: > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:17:33 > From: Davide Lombardo > To: Debian-user List Debian > Subject: Very old hardware... > > Good evening Debian User, I have found an

Very old hardware...

2020-07-03 Thread Davide Lombardo
Good evening Debian User, I have found an old PC with these specs: CPU: Pentium III 700 Mhz; DRAM: 64 MB SDDR GPU: RIVA TNT-2 HARDISK: 10 GB FLOPPY DISK DRIVE MODEM 56K In the receipt is written 3,000 Lire (1,500) Euro of today... Do you think I can install something different than the already ins

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 09:23:26 +0200 wrote: > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > > > But, for want of a better response, you could not resist commenting > > on the typo. As you say - bad form. :) > > Still possibly usef

Fw: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread Matthew Campbell
Nothing seems good enough. Do you want a picture? I'm not typing all of that in on my tablet. Let's just let it go. I'm working on understanding grub. I'm going to boot from a USB flash drive. name=Matthew%20Campbell&email=trenix25%40pm.me Original Message On Jul 3, 2020, 7:37

Re: smartctl vs armhf

2020-07-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 12:32:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > There doesn't seem to be a "smartctl" available for armhf's. # uname -m armv7l # apt policy smartmontools smartmontools: Installed: 6.6-1 Candidate: 6.6-1 Version table: 7.1-1~bpo10+1 100

smartctl vs armhf

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; There doesn't seem to be a "smartctl" available for armhf's. Has it been superceded by something newer for buster? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, July 03, 2020 10:34:19 AM David Wright wrote: > Have you tried out your suggestion? I guess you're talking to me, and the answer is no, I haven't. And I have read the rest of your email. When I first came to Linux, the way I decided on my initial distro (which, iirc, was Mandrake, b

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread John Hasler
Babu writes: > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name Apt-get install > multimedia Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : > gstremer ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. Please guide me how to do Type apt-cache --names-only search multimedia | less and look through

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 21:17:57 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > On Jul 2, 2020, 1:08 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 08:12:00 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> On Jul 1, 2020, 7:50 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 05:14:22 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote:

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 06:37:07 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, July 03, 2020 06:18:04 AM l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > 2 juil. 2020 à 21:37 de baab...@gmail.com: > > > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name > > > > > > Apt-get install multimedia > > > Multimedia need hav

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread didier . gaumet
Le 03/07/2020 à 11:43, Baabu JOY a écrit : > Hello Mr didier >Thanks for your valuable reply . i need depth > understanding how ur doing (apt search multimedia-animation/stable 0.7 ) > Im also expecting same output like this . can u please share information > regarding t

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, July 03, 2020 06:18:04 AM l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Considering the answers you've got so far, I have nothing better to suggest > but a single question because you've intrigued me ;) => Do you mind > sharing a practical use case of such a request please? > > Indeed, from my side, even if

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 2 juil. 2020 à 21:37 de baab...@gmail.com: > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name  > > Apt-get install multimedia > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc.. > > Please guide me how to do  > Considering the answers you've go

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread didier . gaumet
Hello There are metapackages (groups of packages) in Debian. I am not aware a a global multimedia Debian metapackage There are some multimedia metapackages, though: $ apt search multimedia- [...] multimedia-ambisonics/stable 0.7 all Packages for working with ambisonics (3D surround sound) m

Re: Package management

2020-07-03 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:54:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 16:11:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > > Is 'Apt-get install multimedia' a valid command? > > > > [...] (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know > > that, and it's bad form to harp on it.) > > But, f