wpa_supplicangt problems............

2020-09-25 Thread Charlie
From my keyboard: Dell Inspiron updated Debian Bullseye Often get this message: # ifup wlp2s0 wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1 ifup: failed to bring up wlp2s0 and,

parted lists wrong partitions

2020-09-25 Thread Charles Zeitler
i'm working on a thumb drive to use it as install media. su -c 'parted --list /dev/sdb' (/dev/sdb is thumb drive} lists partitions from /dev/sda 9system drive) even when /dev/sdb doesn't exist! fdisk -l /dev/sdb properly reports it as missing, and gparted seems to be unconfused. so far google ref

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 13:26:54 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 00:38:25, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > > > > Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc: > > > > > > set smtp_pass="myPasswd" > > > #

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 10:33:51 (+0100), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > > >> public Windows ma

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 11:19:40 (+0100), anthony gennard wrote: > My email has gone haywire and I cannot reply to two of the messages. > Fortunately, I had made copies of them. > Greg Wooledge said to me > >"How are you `looking at ` the file? > >I would suggest using less. > > >You get out of less

Re: Deterministic delays in POSIX shell scripts (Was: Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages)

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 12:28:31 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:49:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:44:25AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > "hostid" tends to return a hexadecimal representation of the first > > > IPv4 address (but isn't guarantee

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 07:41:10 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:37:52 + Pariksheet Nanda > wrote: > > > I don't know how to empirically test that swap works > > Try free. E.g.: > > root@jhegaala:~# free > totalusedfree shared buff/

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-09-25 at 07:48, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit of > a problem. > > Normally I run the update process several times a week with the command > sudo apr update && sudo apt upgrade. ^ I'm presuming this is a pure ma

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Fri, Sep 25 2020 at 07:48:28 AM, "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit > of a problem. > > Normally I run the update process several times a week with the > command sudo apr update && sudo apt upgrade. This morning this > resulted in

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread mick crane
On 2020-09-25 23:42, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 25 September 2020 18:10:42 Stefan Monnier wrote: > He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. I don't understand what you're referring to: - What is

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I don't understand what you're referring to: >> - What is the "it" that had to be registered? > That edition of dd-wrt. Oooo! You were running DD-wrt on a pc?? Indeed, OpenWRT also supports running on a PC, but it would never have occurred to me to do that. I'd just use Debian instead: m

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 18:10:42 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. > > I don't understand what you're referring to: > - What is the "it" that had to be registered

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> BTW, depending on what you expect from an "ARM board" and what you >> consider "affordable", you could go for an actual router (many of >> which are based on ARM nowadays). > It has to run Debian or a Debian derivative. I can't see any reason why you couldn't install Debian on a "Brume". The ma

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > BTW, depending on what you expect from an "ARM board" and what you > consider "affordable", you could go for an actual router (many of > which are based on ARM nowadays). It has to run Debian or a Debian derivative. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. I don't understand what you're referring to: - What is the "it" that had to be registered? - With whom/what did it have to be registered? - What 2nd port of

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have an Espressobin. It isn't stable due to some sort of power supply > problem (and the available schematics are incorrect). I tried three > different units: it's a design problem. I may go back to messing with > it and try clocking is down, but I don't trust it now. Too bad, because > the

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
>> The hanging behavior is like a step function: the computer goes from being >> fully responsive to completely unresponsive; > > That's very much unlike a normal "out of RAM" situation, OTOH. > Normally what happens is that the OS starts to shuffle things around > (throwing out cached data, moving

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
Hi Linux-Fan, >>> I just checked my other server which has ZFS on root without encryption, >>> and see that I did not enable swap at all on that machine. So I'll disable >>> swap, thrash the RAM with `stress`, and then hopefully the OOM-killer works >>> like it does on that machine. >> >> Yay! Inde

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have an Espressobin. It isn't stable due to some sort of power supply > problem (and the available schematics are incorrect). I tried three > different units: it's a design problem. I may go back to messing with > it and try clocking is down, but I don't trust it now. Too bad, because > the

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 07:41:10 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:37:52 + > Pariksheet Nanda wrote: > > > I don't know how to empirically test that swap works > > Try free. E.g.: > > root@jhegaala:~# free > totalusedfree shared buff/ca

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 17:21:03 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 18:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In

Re: Regarding your case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ]

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 12:43:16 Tom Dial wrote: > On 9/25/20 00:51, john doe wrote: > > On 9/25/2020 7:46 AM, David Christensen wrote: > >> On 2020-09-24 15:43, discsupp...@seagate.com wrote: > > ( omitted material ) > > > Please stop polluting this list with your private stuff. > > I do not

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > I assume you mean tho ethernet NICs (many boards have two NICs in the > form of ethernet + wifi). Yes, of course. I don't want WiFi on a router and I want real NICs, not ones faked via USB. > I know of the BPI-R1 and BPI-R2 and the espressobin, but hopefully > there's more. I h

Re: Regarding your case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ]

2020-09-25 Thread Tom Dial
On 9/25/20 00:51, john doe wrote: > On 9/25/2020 7:46 AM, David Christensen wrote: >> On 2020-09-24 15:43, discsupp...@seagate.com wrote: ( omitted material ) >> > > Please stop polluting this list with your private stuff. I do not consider this thread pollution, for what that's worth. As an

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 12:06:07 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a router. > > Gene writes: > > ...I found I didn't have to register the router... > > Don't know what you mean by that. He may have changed it, but at the time I first started us

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 07:41 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:37:52 + > Pariksheet Nanda wrote: > > > I don't know how to empirically test that swap works > > Try free. E.g.: > > root@jhegaala:~# free > totalusedfree shared buff/cache

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 18:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > [...] > > > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In nearly 2 decades, no one has > > > come into my systems from t

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Will be replaced as soon as I find an affordable ARM board with > two NICs. Ah, yes, that. I assume you mean tho ethernet NICs (many boards have two NICs in the form of ethernet + wifi). I know of the BPI-R1 and BPI-R2 and the espressobin, but hopefully there's more. FWIW, I use a Banana Pi w

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a router. Gene writes: > ...I found I didn't have to register the router... Don't know what you mean by that. My DSL modem is in bridge mode, of course, and pppoe on the pc just works. The old Dell I use has been running for about ten ye

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across >>that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to >>be warning enough for me. > That's simply not true. Compromised web sites are a thing, among > other issues. Yup. The widespread existence of "b

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:56:56AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to be warning enough for me. That's simply not true. Compromised web sites are a thing, am

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 09:32:27, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > Sorry, nonexistent proof reading. > > Here are the requested files > > sources.list: > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.1.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > 20190908-01:09]/ buster contrib main > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Lin

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they are > > all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT > > routable from the internet but are NAT

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 10:23:43 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they > > are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT > > routable from the internet bu

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Fabien Roucaute
Le 25/09/2020 à 13:48, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : > I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit of > a problem. > > Normally I run the update process several times a week with the command > sudo apr update && sudo apt upgrade. This morning this resulted in the > error >

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 13:49:25, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > My thinking may (once again) be a bit unhinged, but I would use, > e.g., crc because it internatlly used by rsync, which I also use in my > code. Just for the archives, rsync is using MD5, and only if you specify the --checksum option. St

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT routable from the internet but are NAT'd to my net address by having such a setup in a router runni

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 09:25:20 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > No you are not the only one, but you are a minority that does not > > always want to understand how to use the internet and be safe at the > > same time. It can be done, I'm doing it. And I've been doing it > > since the

Re: OOM-killer not being involked under memory pressure

2020-09-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:37:52 + Pariksheet Nanda wrote: > I don't know how to empirically test that swap works Try free. E.g.: root@jhegaala:~# free totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 78605095 780 597

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:49:25PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, but before I do that I want to make sure that I get a baseline of the source files. I use: a)

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 09/25/2020 09:13 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:08:09AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Here is my edited sources.list: Your *what*?! What do you mean, "edited"? Do you mean, "here is a file that is not my sources.list, but some part of it may be similar, and you ge

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > No you are not the only one, but you are a minority that does not > always want to understand how to use the internet and be safe at the > same time. It can be done, I'm doing it. And I've been doing it > since the later 90's. Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a route

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:08:09AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Here is my edited sources.list: Your *what*?! What do you mean, "edited"? Do you mean, "here is a file that is not my sources.list, but some part of it may be similar, and you get to guess what the real one contains"? How is t

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 09/25/2020 08:49 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit of a problem. Normally I run the update process several times a week with the command sudo apr update && sudo apt upgrade. This morning this resulted in th

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 07:54:54 Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/25/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Sven Hartge wrote: > > > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by > > doing this? > > I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of > thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, > b

Re: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit of a > problem. > > Normally I run the update process several times a week with the command sudo > apr update && sudo apt upgrade. This morning this resulted in the error > > The following partially

Re: Deterministic delays in POSIX shell scripts (Was: Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages)

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:49:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:44:25AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > "hostid" tends to return a hexadecimal representation of the first > > IPv4 address (but isn't guaranteed to). > > unicorn:~$ hostid > 007f0101 > > Doesn't look

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: >> > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >> > >> public Windows machine? > >> > Why do you think yo

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:26:54PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Not necessarily, just very common. However, suddenlink seems to require > the full e-mail address as well. > > https://help.suddenlink.com/knowledge/microsoft-outlook-set-your-suddenlink-email > > > I don't think sud

Re: Deterministic delays in POSIX shell scripts (Was: Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages)

2020-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:44:25AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > "hostid" tends to return a hexadecimal representation of the first > IPv4 address (but isn't guaranteed to). unicorn:~$ hostid 007f0101 Doesn't look very useful. That's just 127.0.1.1 in a 16-bit little endian format. > On a systemd

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/24/20, Sven Hartge wrote: > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by > doing this? I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, but before I do that I want to make sure t

Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download

2020-09-25 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running up-to-date Buster, unfortunately there seems to be a bit of a problem. Normally I run the update process several times a week with the command sudo apr update && sudo apt upgrade. This morning this resulted in the error The following partially installed packages will be configur

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > >> public Windows machine? > > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to ac

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 00:38:25, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > > Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc: > > > > set smtp_pass="myPasswd" > > # set smtp_url="smtp[s]://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]" > > # set smtp_url="smtp:

Returning to /var/log/boot.log and Greg Wooledge`s reply

2020-09-25 Thread anthony gennard
My email has gone haywire and I cannot reply to two of the messages. Fortunately, I had made copies of them. Greg Wooledge said to me >"How are you `looking at ` the file? >I would suggest using less. >You get out of less by pressing p Greg, I was using less. What I did was:- Open a terminal by

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-25 Thread anthony gennard
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 10:40, anthony gennard wrote: > > > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 10:11, anthony gennard wrote: > >> Thanks very much; it will take me some time to understand your advice. I >> will revert as soon as I can. >> >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 15:03, Hans wrote: >> >>> Am Donnerstag,

Re: Returning to /var/log/boot.log

2020-09-25 Thread anthony gennard
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 10:11, anthony gennard wrote: > Thanks very much; it will take me some time to understand your advice. I > will revert as soon as I can. > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 15:03, Hans wrote: > >> Am Donnerstag, 24. September 2020, 15:45:47 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge: >> I believe,

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-25 Thread mick crane
On 2020-09-25 08:56, Joe wrote: If you haven't done anything yourself, it will be exim4-light. thanks -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: I can't believe the answer is as simple as visiting https://packages.debian.org/index and downloading the packages you want (in binary mode). Plus (possibly several) iterations of downloading the dependencies, and their dependencies,

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-25 Thread Joe
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 22:29:32 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2020-09-24 18:19, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > > >> > >> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter > >> wrote: > >> mutt is an MUA, not an MTA.  > >>

Deterministic delays in POSIX shell scripts (Was: Re: notify via virtual terminal available packages)

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 08:49:07AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:38:55 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So you're just doing "sleep 1" every time. > > Ah, thank you. Yup. Which is weird, because it worked when I first > wrote that many years ago. In cron scripts w