how to download the previous version files

2020-10-27 Thread siming
Hello, how to download the previous version files? For example, I want to download the base-files_10.3+deb10u5.dsc, but at http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/base-files/ it just have the newest file base-files_10.3+deb10u6.dsc. Thanks. SIMING

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 7:00 AM Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2020-10-25 06:51:36-04, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 6:40 AM wrote: > >> alpine > > > +1 > > It would be useful to add some information how the suggested client > (Alpine) serves the purpose that was asked by the origi

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread David
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 00:45, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 27 oct 20, 07:55:00, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:07:37PM +, Tixy wrote: > > > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 18:35 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > > > It seems that ~/.xsession-errors file can still grow to infinity i

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 22:22:16 (+), Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, at 21:04, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > - Use a good MUA and resign yourself to occasionally sending an > > email to a browser. Despite your protestations of "logging > > in", having a browser display your email req

[SOLVED] Re: PC wont boot to GUI

2020-10-27 Thread David
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 11:46, John Figie wrote: > Thanks for your help, this solved my problem. [...] > Reboot and life is good now :-) Great, thanks for confirming and providing a summary of your solution.

Re: PC wont boot to GUI

2020-10-27 Thread John Figie
David Thanks for your help, this solved my problem. I did however need to figure out how to connect my computer to the internet: (additional help from https://serverfault.com/questions/21475/starting-network-connection-from-ubuntu-recovery ) I did open my sources.list file but there was no need to

Bug Report? - T14 Microphone Issue - Possible Missing Kernel Config?

2020-10-27 Thread Jonathan
Good Evening, I was attempting to get my microphone working on my T14 AMD as it is the only non-functioning piece I was aware of. Browsing possible solutions I was shown the following could fix the issue if added to the kernel config: CONFIG_SND_SOC_AMD_RENOIR=m CONFIG_SND_SOC_AMD_RENOIR_MAC

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread John Conover
Patrick Bartek writes: > > > > > >> On 10/25/20 8:28 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > >>> I'm not referring to viewing HTML emails. I already can do that in > > >>> Claws-Mail using its Dillo plugin. I'm talking about filling in > > >>> forms, etc. that are part of the HTML email and sending just

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, at 21:04, Dan Ritter wrote: > - Use a good MUA and resign yourself to occasionally sending an > email to a browser. Despite your protestations of "logging > in", having a browser display your email requires no such > thing. The MUA saves the email to a file, then hands

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Joe
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:23:11 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:15:46 PM Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 07:43:43 -0400 > > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > [1]I used to read slashdot regularly, and on slashdot, the front > > > page had a bunch of news stories a

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 oct 20, 13:03:32, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:05:36 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > > > > I believe someone demonstrated quite recently on list that dpkg has some > > limits in the number and/or combination of packag

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Dan Ritter
Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 21:23:59 -0400 > Carl Fink wrote: > > I don't know if there is a or not. Someone else suggested > that. It may be javascript. Never checked email's code all that > closely. Next time I get one of those type emails, I'll look. > > > I think you're

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 21:23:59 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: > On 10/26/20 6:16 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:45:50 -0400 > > Carl Fink wrote: > > > >> On 10/25/20 8:28 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> I'm not referring to viewing HTML emails. I already can do that in > >>> Claw

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Mick Ab
Thanks for the replies. It seems to me that the situation is as follows :- Filesystems in /etc/fstab which have the noauto option are not automatically mounted at boot time, so if these filesystems are already plugged into USB ports at boot time, they would subsequently have to be manually mounte

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 02:20:14PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 11:51 AM Mick Ab wrote: > > > If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only > > be mounted manually using the mount command or > > is there any chance that it will be automatically

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Nicolas George
ghe2001 (12020-10-27): > > dme is faster. > > What's a dme? It's not on my system, and aptitude claims it doesn't exist. It's not dme, it's dme ssecem ~ $ apt-file search '/bin/dme' herbstluftwm: /usr/bin/dmenu_run_hlwm klibc-utils: /usr/lib/klibc/bin/dmesg suckless-tools: /usr/bin/dmenu s

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 07:06:20PM +, ghe2001 wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:58 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > > > dme is faster. > > What's a dme? It's not on my system, and aptitude claims it doesn't exist. /bin/dmesg, probably. A pa

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:15:46 PM Joe wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 07:43:43 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [1]I used to read slashdot regularly, and on slashdot, the front page > > had a bunch of news stories and a poll. The poll was written as a > > vanilla HTML form. If you partici

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:05:31 AM Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2020-10-26 20:04:55+03, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 06:35:45PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > >> - Do you configure some rotating system, perhaps with logrotate(8)? > >> > >> (Why doesn't Debian have this automati

Re: What's going on with snapd?

2020-10-27 Thread Brian Vaughan
On 10/27/2020 6:54 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: What release are you running (stable, testing, unstable, etc.)? The package in stable will only receive security updates. I'm running unstable. But if I've got the dates right, some of them were reported before Buster became stable. I suppose my m

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/27/20, Mick Ab wrote: > If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only > be mounted manually using the mount command or > is there any chance that it will be automatically mounted by > usbmount ? > > The filesystem is used in a USB port. Is there a "sub" anythin

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Nicolas George
ghe2001 (12020-10-27): > On my system (Buster) USB things are called /dev/sd.  From > the CLI, I type "sudo mount /dev/sd" to see what's already there, > then plug in the USB device, and  hit again to see what's new.  dme is faster. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:51:06 +, Mick Ab wrote: > If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only > be mounted manually using the mount command or > is there any chance that it will be automatically mounted by > usbmount ? > > The filesystem is used in a USB port.

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 1:03 PM mick crane wrote: > On 2020-10-27 14:35, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > Good article, about the European Commission embracing a "new Open > > Source > > Software Strategy". Being the European Union is awesome, simply > > because of > > how big it is, of course. I like

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 11:51 AM Mick Ab wrote: > If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only > be mounted manually using the mount command or > is there any chance that it will be automatically mounted by > usbmount ? > > The filesystem is used in a USB port. > I ha

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:20:17PM -0400, songbird wrote: > Reco wrote: > ... > > Because python. Be it python 2 or python 3 - it's (in)famous for one > > thing - lack of backwards compatibility. Sooner or later they replace > > python 3.8 (current sid) with, say, python 3.9 - and the

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:05:36 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > > Andrei writes: > > > dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to APT (the > > > software, not the command), and will prevent any inconsistencies > > > unless you use one of t

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-27 14:35, Kenneth Parker wrote: Good article, about the European Commission embracing a "new Open Source Software Strategy". Being the European Union is awesome, simply because of how big it is, of course. I like their principle, "Think Open". If the European Union say they want

Re: Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:51:06 (+), Mick Ab wrote: > If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only > be mounted manually using the mount command or > is there any chance that it will be automatically mounted by > usbmount ? > > The filesystem is used in a USB port.

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Just curious: Since Britain is shortly leaving the EU, has PM Boris' regime made any similar commitments? As part of the divorce settlement? 😂 On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 9:36 AM Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:29 AM Weaver wrote: > >> On 27-10-2020 20:01, Iker Bilbao wrote: >> >

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread songbird
Reco wrote: ... > Because python. Be it python 2 or python 3 - it's (in)famous for one > thing - lack of backwards compatibility. Sooner or later they replace > python 3.8 (current sid) with, say, python 3.9 - and the things will > break again. > Because they did on 3.7->3.8 transition, did before

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread John Hasler
Greg Wooledge wrote: > [1]I used to read slashdot regularly, and on slashdot, the front page > had a bunch of news stories and a poll. The poll was written as a > vanilla HTML form. If you participated in the poll, it would send you > to a new instance of the home page, because a form *must* load

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Joe
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 07:43:43 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > [1]I used to read slashdot regularly, and on slashdot, the front page > had a bunch of news stories and a poll. The poll was written as a > vanilla HTML form. If you participated in the poll, it would send you > to a new instance of

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Joe
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 07:43:43 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 03:16:21PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The ones I respond to are known to me and are legit -- > > organizations, businesses, government agencies, etc. -- that I do > > business with. To respond, I must switch

Mounting a USB device

2020-10-27 Thread Mick Ab
If a filesystem in /etc/fstab has a noauto entry, can that filesystem only be mounted manually using the mount command or is there any chance that it will be automatically mounted by usbmount ? The filesystem is used in a USB port.

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/27/20, Reco wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:45:23AM -0400, songbird wrote: >> Reco wrote: >> ... >> > Indeed. Switch back to fetchmail, because the less you're depending on >> > python and the software that uses it - the better ;) >> >> i never used fetchmail so that wouldn't be a >> "

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2020-10-26 20:04:55+03, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 06:35:45PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> - Do you configure some rotating system, perhaps with logrotate(8)? >> (Why doesn't Debian have this automatically?) > > For Debian, it may work. For RHEL, for instance, such logrotate p

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Reco
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:45:23AM -0400, songbird wrote: > Reco wrote: > ... > > Indeed. Switch back to fetchmail, because the less you're depending on > > python and the software that uses it - the better ;) > > i never used fetchmail so that wouldn't be a > "switching back" and since i alread

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:19:01AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:02:22 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:31:19PM +, mick crane wrote: > > > > this was just a quick heads-up for those who are stuck > > > > on getmail like i am

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread songbird
Reco wrote: ... > Indeed. Switch back to fetchmail, because the less you're depending on > python and the software that uses it - the better ;) i never used fetchmail so that wouldn't be a "switching back" and since i already have my setup working as i want for getmail6 why would i bother doin

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:29 AM Weaver wrote: > On 27-10-2020 20:01, Iker Bilbao wrote: > > > https://www.casadomo.com/2020/10/27/comision-europea-aprueba-nueva-estrategia-software-codigo-abierto-2020-2023 > > Bravo! > -- Thank you Weaver. I had ignored the original email, due to it being "Engli

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > https://www.casadomo.com/2020/10/27/comision-europea-aprueba-nueva-estrategia-software-codigo-abierto-2020-2023 > Source (in English): > https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-source-software-strategy_en Nice! Regarding: > 2. The Commission shall ensure a level playing field

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:02:22 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:31:19PM +, mick crane wrote: > > > this was just a quick heads-up for those who are stuck > > > on getmail like i am (and quite happy with it). :) > > > > > > > as far as getmail goes maintainer th

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 oct 20, 03:29:13, Weaver wrote: > On 27-10-2020 20:01, Iker Bilbao wrote: > > https://www.casadomo.com/2020/10/27/comision-europea-aprueba-nueva-estrategia-software-codigo-abierto-2020-2023 > > Bravo! Source (in English): https://ec.europa.eu/info/departments/informatics/open-source-sof

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:31:19PM +, mick crane wrote: > > this was just a quick heads-up for those who are stuck > > on getmail like i am (and quite happy with it). :) > > > > as far as getmail goes maintainer thinks is an unnecessary panic. > > ""getmail goes out of offici

Re: What's going on with snapd?

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 26 oct 20, 15:24:24, Brian Vaughan wrote: > Recently I wanted to try out an open source game that was being distributed > as a snap package, so I tried installing snapd. It apparently installed > successfully, and I could apparently install snap packages, but I couldn't > execute them. Long

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread songbird
mick crane wrote: ... > as far as getmail goes maintainer thinks is an unnecessary panic. > > ""getmail goes out of official support by my distro" may be a > theoretical > problem, or a philosophical one, but it it certainly is not a > significant > practical problem. Keep a Python 2 binary arou

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 oct 20, 07:55:00, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:07:37PM +, Tixy wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 18:35 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > > It seems that ~/.xsession-errors file can still grow to infinity in > > > size. Sometimes it grows really fast. This is nothing

Re: getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-27 13:08, songbird wrote: well, yesterday finally became the day when i tried to see if i could get the old getmail to be left alone, but nope, none of the options worked. the good news, is that getmail6 is in unstable and was a drop in replacement for getmail. there's a bit of an

getmail, getmail6, testing, unstable, python-is-python3

2020-10-27 Thread songbird
well, yesterday finally became the day when i tried to see if i could get the old getmail to be left alone, but nope, none of the options worked. the good news, is that getmail6 is in unstable and was a drop in replacement for getmail. there's a bit of an odd message coming out of it but that

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to APT (the > > software, not the command), and will prevent any inconsistencies > > unless you use one of the --force switches. > > What it does not do is resolve dependencies.

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 25 Oct 2020 at 10:36, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:19:28 +0200 > Teemu Likonen wrote: >> GNU Emacs mail clients "Gnus" and "Notmuch Emacs" automatically render >> HTML mail nicely as plain text. User can can also open HTML and other >> MIME parts in external viewer lik

Re: PC wont boot to GUI

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:18:42PM +1100, David wrote: > You need to install the firmware. > You do that by running this command as superuser: > > # apt install firmware-amd-graphics You may have to add "contrib" and "non-free" to your sources.list first, and then run "apt update". See

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:07:37PM +, Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 18:35 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > It seems that ~/.xsession-errors file can still grow to infinity in > > size. Sometimes it grows really fast. This is nothing new: we have all > > seen it and talked about it. What do

Re: The .xsession-errors problem

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:28:12AM +1100, David wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 10:56, David Wright wrote: > > fuser -v "$j" > > [ $? -ne 0 ] && gzip "$j" && mv -i "$j.gz" "$HOME/.monitors/xsession/" > > > (Script improvements always appreciated.) > https://www.shellcheck.net says: >

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:11:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > We still don't know whether > > - those forms are plain old HTML forms of yore with a "classical" > SUBMIT action > - or they are some AJAX-y abomination in which a piece of Javascript > plays ping-pong with the server > > In

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 03:16:21PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > The ones I respond to are known to me and are legit -- > organizations, businesses, government agencies, etc. -- that I do > business with. To respond, I must switch to a web browser, login to > my email account (like gmail), find t

Re: La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Weaver
On 27-10-2020 20:01, Iker Bilbao wrote: > https://www.casadomo.com/2020/10/27/comision-europea-aprueba-nueva-estrategia-software-codigo-abierto-2020-2023 Bravo! -- `One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans' (1888).

La Comisión Europea aprueba la nueva Estrategia de Software de Código Abierto 2020-2023

2020-10-27 Thread Iker Bilbao
https://www.casadomo.com/2020/10/27/comision-europea-aprueba-nueva-estr ategia-software-codigo-abierto-2020-2023

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread Curt
On 2020-10-27, Carl Fink wrote: > > Meaning no offense, I doubt it. I have been using email since before Gopher, > and I have literally never received an HTML  email with an embedded form > (that I opened, at least). I find it hard to believe that you get many > of them. > >From what I've read h

Re: What's going on with snapd?

2020-10-27 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, Did you follow these steps? https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian

Re: Replacement Email Client

2020-10-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: [...] > Okay. Here's a trivial one to keep it simple: > > Recently I went to my bank in person. A few days later I get an HTML > email [...] I think we won't advance unless you look into that HTML. (If you post it here: make sure