Re : Jami "Together" dans les dépôts officiels de Debian

2020-12-21 Thread nicolas . patrois
Le 21/12/2020 23:31:51, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : > C'est quoi jami ?... Moi aussi je ne savais pas : > apt show jami Package: jami Version: 20201217.1.80217fa~ds1-1 Priority: optional Section: comm Source: ring Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team Installed-Size: 5 399 kB Depends:

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Last I read wayland had serious accessibility problems. How does fvwm work with screen readers and similar accessibility items and is fvwm going the way of xWindows? On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:33:39 > From: Greg Wooledge > To:

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Linux-Fan
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:06:45AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > > If you have "real" 686 32 bit hardware that you can press into service > > that > > isn't being used: pick up a Debian i386 disk

Re: Monter un cluster avec debian 10

2020-12-21 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le lundi 21 décembre 2020, 20:45:04 CET roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : > Merci. > J'avais entendu parlé de proxmox mais encore creusé. > > En gros, c'est "combien de fois plus rapide" à installer avec proxmox par > rapport à ma propre installation KVM+etc. ? Je risque quoi, ou je perds > quoi à

Re: Jami "Together" dans les dépôts officiels de Debian

2020-12-21 Thread roger . tarani
C'est quoi jami ?... De: "firenze rt" À: "Liste Debian" Envoyé: Lundi 21 Décembre 2020 21:15:07 Objet: Jami "Together" dans les dépôts officiels de Debian Bonsoir à tous, Les utilisateurs de Debian Sid peuvent désormais installer [ https://forum.jami.net/t/platform-versions/55/17 |

HEADSUP: systemd now defaults to cgroupsv2

2020-12-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, with systemd 247.2-2, the default cgroup hierarchy has been switched to unified (i.e. cgroupv2). If you want to read more about the benefits of cgroupv2 vs cgroupv1, I would suggest [1]. In Debian, all major container tools should support cgroupv2. My special thanks go to Ryutaroh

FELIZ NAVIDAD A TODOS!!

2020-12-21 Thread Galvatorix Torixgalva
Hola, lo se, lo se, no tiene nada que ver con la lista xD Soy de España, mañana es el muy esperado sorteo especial de la loteria de navidad. Mañana la vida de mucha gente cambiara cuando les toque alguno de los decimos premiados :D Como muchos, yo tambien tengo ya los decimos comprados. A ver

Re: Nueva página web de Debian

2020-12-21 Thread Felix Perez
El dom, 20 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 11:47, Camaleón (noela...@gmail.com) escribió: > > Hola, > > El equipo de traducción al español de Debian está haciendo un esfuerzo > grande por traducir las páginas oficiales de la web de Debian, aunque > me consta que también la wiki recibe su parte de atención

Jami "Together" dans les dépôts officiels de Debian

2020-12-21 Thread firenze . rt
Bonsoir à tous, Les utilisateurs de Debian Sid peuvent désormais installer la dernière version de Jami sur leur ordinateur à partir des dépôts officiels de Debian. https://packages.debian.org/unstable/jami Les autres utilisateurs devront

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:33:39PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:12:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Makes you wonder how long it [X.org] will be around; I guess a fair while > > > though. > > > > I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long,

Re: Gimp Crash debug

2020-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El 2020-12-21 a las 15:03 -0300, S P escribió: (...) > > fatal error: Excepción de coma flotante > > Stack trace: > ``` > /lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.0(gimp_stack_trace_print+0x397)[0x7fc21a756e27] > gimp-2.10(+0xd14a0)[0x5640ac7c04a0] > gimp-2.10(+0xd18d8)[0x5640ac7c08d8] >

Monter un cluster avec debian 10

2020-12-21 Thread roger . tarani
J'aimerais monter un cluster de 2 machines avec KVM, pacemaker/corosync (qui semble permettre plus de deux noeuds). 1/ Quel matériel peut-on envisager ? Je pensais à deux options : - soit des petits serveurs, qui seront robustes et évolutifs ex : Dell Poweredge T110 Xeon (c'était capable de

Gimp Crash debug

2020-12-21 Thread S P
``` GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.10.8 git-describe: GIMP_2_10_6-294-ga967e8d2c2 C compiler: Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/lto-wrapper OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1 Target: x86_64-linux-gnu Configured

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:26:28PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 21 December 2020 10:53:23 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 09:50:37AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 21 December 2020 09:18:45 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > I feel dirty

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:04:48AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 8:19 AM wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:09:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [environment variables and things] > > > > Wel, the DCOP docs are here [1] (Ah, Doxygen docs. Is there a > >

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:12:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Makes you wonder how long it [X.org] will be around; I guess a fair while > > though. > > I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can > be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12020-12-21): > I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can > be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the extent > that it supports hardware that Wayland doesn't. Quoting

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 December 2020 10:53:23 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 09:50:37AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 21 December 2020 09:18:45 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > I feel dirty now. > > > > So do I, even that bow legged name generates ill feelings. Me and

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Makes you wonder how long it will be around; I guess a fair while > though. > [1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/30/x_server_lead_maintainer_declares/ I can't see why it'd need to be around for very long, given that it can be replaced by Wayland + Xwayland. So Xorg is only useful to the

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
Linux-Fan composed on 2020-12-21 15:44 (UTC+0100): > I have got seven i386 (non-amd64-capable) machines in total, all of which > are known to work with "Debian 10 stable" although not freshly installed but > upgraded from earlier releases. At least two of them can be easily used > for

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 8:19 AM wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:09:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [environment variables and things] > > Wel, the DCOP docs are here [1] (Ah, Doxygen docs. Is there a > term for "illiterate programming"?). > > The Jesus-freak spirit of Knuth

Re: Extraction de CDs

2020-12-21 Thread Erwann Le Bras
bonjour personnellement j'utilise XCFA (depuis les dépôts Debian) qui fonctionne très bien. Pour tagguer les fichiers, MusicBrainz Picard, depuis les dépôts également. Le 18/12/2020 à 22:07, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL a écrit : Hello, J'aimerais extraire les musiques d'un CD que j'ai depuis

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 09:50:37AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 21 December 2020 09:18:45 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > I feel dirty now. > > So do I, even that bow legged name generates ill feelings. Me and my > printer both need a shower. But its better than nothing, and may >

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:06:45AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > > That is, if you and

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > > support you should

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Tixy
Sorry, quoting got messed up on my last email, fixed version below (I hope)... On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 08:15 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:32:20PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: [...] > > As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little > > lost. > > In

Re: adding a disk to a Volume group

2020-12-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 01:38:16PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: * Are you adding the new disk permanently or as removable media? If the latter, put a separate VG on it. Or don't bother. The reason I suggest this is if the new disk is removable, having the same VG span both disks may make the

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 08:15 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:32:20PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: [...] > As an user of FVWM (desktop box) and xfce (laptop) I feel little > lost. > In particular it is not clear to me if it will be possible to use > FVWM / > xfce on top

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 December 2020 09:18:45 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:09:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [environment variables and things] > > Wel, the DCOP docs are here [1] (Ah, Doxygen docs. Is there a > term for "illiterate programming"?). Convincing my search

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Linux-Fan
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > And how

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:09:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [environment variables and things] Wel, the DCOP docs are here [1] (Ah, Doxygen docs. Is there a term for "illiterate programming"?). Convincing my search engine to search that site for "environment variable" yields some hits

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 08:42:26AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > I got an email from cron this morning that needs some explaining. > Here is a dcop connand _I_ can execute, no error > /opt/trinity/bin/dcop kmail KMailIface resumeBackgroundJobs > > But I put it in MY crontab and get this email > >

Re: MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 08:42:26AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > I got an email from cron this morning that needs some explaining. > Here is a dcop connand _I_ can execute, no error > /opt/trinity/bin/dcop kmail KMailIface resumeBackgroundJobs > > But I put it in MY crontab and get this email > >

MY crontab ain't me!

2020-12-21 Thread Gene Heskett
I got an email from cron this morning that needs some explaining. Here is a dcop connand _I_ can execute, no error /opt/trinity/bin/dcop kmail KMailIface resumeBackgroundJobs But I put it in MY crontab and get this email Cron /opt/trinity/bin/dcop kmail KMailIface resumeBackgroundJobs From:

Radicale: Service Unavailable

2020-12-21 Thread Flo
Dear All, I want to set up Radicale for syncing via CardDav and CalDav. I set up Apache and want to access Radicale with uwsgi. When I enter the user name it says 'Service Unavailable'. The error logfile shows: [proxy:error] [pid 21029:tid 140292405581568] (111)Connection refused: AH02454:

Re: Future of X, fvwm and wayland

2020-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:32:20PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > It seems, that main graphical UI base will be Wayland instead of X > Window. > If I understand correctly Wayland has no separate window manager > process. I think this is incorrect. There's still a window manager. You just don't

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 05:03:40PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:32:33AM +, mick crane wrote: > > I noticed that if you add yourself to sudo group in /etc/group you > > have to logout and log back in for it to be noticed. > > If you don't want to log out of the shell

Re: NULL pointer dereference

2020-12-21 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 21.12.2020 04:16, Grzesiek Sójka wrote: On 12/19/20 9:57 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: If this is recurring error, was it identical in terms of codes, trace and register data? Errors look similar but I'm not an expert. Some numbers are different. I think it started after installing

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > And how does one do that? > > --

Re: NULL pointer dereference

2020-12-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > If this is recurring error, was it identical in terms of codes, trace and > > register data? Grzesiek Sójka wrote: > Errors look similar but I'm not an expert. Some numbers are different. Does it always name "awk" as the userland program which triggered the

Re: pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} stopped working pinentry-fltk works, why?

2020-12-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le lundi 21 décembre 2020 à 11:30:06 UTC+1, Gregor Zattler a écrit : > thanks. The alternatives mechanism was OK all the time, atm it is: > $ update-alternatives --display pinentry > pinentry - auto mode > link best version is /usr/bin/pinentry-fltk > link currently points to

Forget it, user error (was: Re: pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} stopped working pinentry-fltk works, why?)

2020-12-21 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi debian users, * Gregor Zattler [21. Dez. 2020]: > Dear fellow debian users, since yesterday pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} > stopped working. When I want to decrypt some .gpg file, no dialog > appears and gpg-agent times out. Luckily pinentry-curses and > pinentry-fltk still do work. > > This is

Re: pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} stopped working pinentry-fltk works, why?

2020-12-21 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi didier, debian users, * didier gaumet [21. Dez. 2020]: > Le lundi 21 décembre 2020 à 00:30:05 UTC+1, Gregor Zattler a écrit : >> Dear fellow debian users, since yesterday pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} >> stopped working. When I want to decrypt some .gpg file, no dialog >> appears and gpg-agent

Re: pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} stopped working pinentry-fltk works, why?

2020-12-21 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi deloptes, debian users, * deloptes [21. Dez. 2020]: > Gregor Zattler wrote: > >> This is on a buster system with gpg* packages from backports, >> pinentry* packages from buster (since there are no backports). >> >> Any ideas how to re-enable pinentry-qt (which displays most >> info about the

Re: pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} stopped working pinentry-fltk works, why?

2020-12-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le lundi 21 décembre 2020 à 00:30:05 UTC+1, Gregor Zattler a écrit : > Dear fellow debian users, since yesterday pinentry-{qt,gtk2,gnome3} > stopped working. When I want to decrypt some .gpg file, no dialog > appears and gpg-agent times out. Luckily pinentry-curses and > pinentry-fltk still do