Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:11:33AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: [...] > OK, several people suggested the kernel command-line option > net.ifnames=0. Since I almost never change hardware configurations > this is probably OK even with my two NICs, one on the mainboard, the > second is a PCI card. I

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Thanks Andrei Frankly, I was almost up to asking this myself. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Jude DaShiell
Is iwctl part of default bullseye installations? Maybe networkd.service can be used with systemd this I haven't tried since I'm using ethernet but do have wi-fi capability. I could try these avenues and see if they're open. On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: > Harald Dunkel wrote: > > how

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Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > You simply aren't going to get that behavior. So I'm telling you how > you can work around the problem, or fix your *underlying problem*. i agree, if you have something sending information to a console or terminal, you can just open up another terminal or tab and then

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Montag, 30. August 2021, 21:58:47 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 09:01:33PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ ls -l /tmp/123 > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 rd users 0 30. Aug 20:42 /tmp/123 > > > > User ka overwrites it with the content of another file (atomically

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:44:09AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > One interface is on the mainboard (eth0), the other is a PCI card > (eth1). BTW, PCI really, not PCIe other something like that. It's a > really old machine. OK. I recommend making two "dot link" files, one for each card, in order

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Follow up from:Is there a way to make larger options available, please? and chose VGA in screen 3 (rather than fixed) and got three lager options; and the result was immediate, in

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Exit and log in again My result was very marginal improvement. 8x18 is the largest I was offered. Is there a way to make larger options available, please? -- All the best Keith

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Steve Keller
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > Since nobody else has mentioned this link, here is where I recommend you > start: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames Oh, that's what I meant by "wiki" in my posts. Sorry, I should have given the URL. It's linked from the buster release-notes in section 5

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Steve Keller
Greg Wooledge writes: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:27:57AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > > > This gives unpredictable results if the system has more than one > > > ethernet interface, or more than one wireless interface. > > > > > > It's fine on systems that have 0-1 ethernet and 0-1 wireless NICs.

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-30 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 21:53 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 10 aug 21, 13:32:09, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > > > > ~$ apt-get update > > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > > Hit:2 http://security.deb

Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi, I am looking for advice how to implement best this kind of usecase: User rd creates a file on /tmp: rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ touch /tmp/123 rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ chgrp users /tmp/123 rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ chmod g+w /tmp/123 rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ ls -l /tmp/123 -rw-rw-r-- 1 rd users 0 30

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Steve Keller
Greg Wooledge writes: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 04:41:55PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Steve Keller wrote: > > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > > > of unpredictable network in

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > of unpredictable network interface names. > > I don't care what PCI bus and

Re: TV hdmi overscan issues

2021-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
Henning Follmann composed on 2021-08-30 18:09 (UTC-0400):... > xrandr --output XWAYLAND3 --mode 1280x720 --transform 1.05,0,-10,0,1,0,0,0,1 > to shift the x axis. ... On a 39" Proscan I needed this to eliminate ov

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Thomas Hochstein
IL Ka schrieb: > > It's fine on systems that have 0-1 ethernet and 0-1 wireless NICs. > > Isn't that what the topic starter asked about?:) I don't think so: | I simply have eth0 for the internal network and eth1 for | my external network to the DSL router. That looks like two ethernet NICs.

TV hdmi overscan issues

2021-08-30 Thread Henning Follmann
Hello, I recently upgraded a NUC (which is my kodi media server) to bullseye. I always had an issue with the overscan of my TV monitor. The overscan cannot be disabled on the monitor (it is an 16 year old sharp). And I tried to compensate via xrandr --transform, which I never was able to figure out

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:27:57AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > This gives unpredictable results if the system has more than one > > ethernet interface, or more than one wireless interface. > > > > It's fine on systems that have 0-1 ethernet and 0-1 wireless NICs. > > > > Isn't that what the topic

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 09:29:14PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 05:07:16PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > unicorn:~$ strace bash -c 'echo stuff >> /tmp/123' > > [...] > > openat(AT_FDCWD, "/tmp/123", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_APPEND, 0666) = -1 EACCES > > (Permission de

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread IL Ka
> > This gives unpredictable results if the system has more than one > ethernet interface, or more than one wireless interface. > > It's fine on systems that have 0-1 ethernet and 0-1 wireless NICs. > Isn't that what the topic starter asked about?:) To make names predictable one can either leave

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 05:07:16PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > unicorn:~$ strace bash -c 'echo stuff >> /tmp/123' > [...] > openat(AT_FDCWD, "/tmp/123", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_APPEND, 0666) = -1 EACCES > (Permission denied) > > As far as I can see, this is a kernel bug. Unless I'm overlook

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Ritter wrote: > Steve Keller wrote: > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > > of unpredictable network interface names. > > In /etc/default/grub, assuming that you are booting

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread IL Ka
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:36 PM Steve Keller wrote: > So I'm still confused what to do after the upgrade to buster to keep > my network names. > > > in /etc/default/grub add "net.ifnames=0" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and execute "update-grub" This service: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/system

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 04:41:55PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Steve Keller wrote: > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > > of unpredictable network interface names. > > In /etc/def

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:57:59PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hmm...your example works for me as well > > rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ sudo touch /tmp/123; sudo chgrp video /tmp/123; sudo > chmod 664 /tmp/123 > [sudo] Passwort für rd: > rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ ls -l /tmp/123 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root vi

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Steve Keller wrote: > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > of unpredictable network interface names. In /etc/default/grub, assuming that you are booting with grub, GRUB_CMDLINE_LIN

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > of unpredictable network interface names. You say "server", so I'm guessing it has

How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-30 Thread Steve Keller
I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme of unpredictable network interface names. I don't care what PCI bus and what slot my NICs are attached to, I don't want to learn and don't want to have to r

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 09:01:33PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > rd@h370:~/tmp.nobackup$ ls -l /tmp/123 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 rd users 0 30. Aug 20:42 /tmp/123 > User ka overwrites it with the content of another file (atomically): > > ka@h370:~$ echo test > 123 > ka@h370:~$ mv 123 /tmp/123 > mv: cannot

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 08:15 +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Last time (that time bullseye still on testing release) I tried with > they official deb, I getting dependencies issues too.. trying with > "apt-get -f install" solve the installation but somehow when I using > it, > it hang...and sometimes

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Harald Dunkel wrote: > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not > completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? This has not yet happened to me in nine or ten upgrades to bullseye; al

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not That's a good question. Completely devoid of infirmation. But still a good quest

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-30 Thread IL Ka
> > > Is there something special with /tmp? > Do you have sticky bit on `/tmp`? > For directories, when a directory's sticky bit is set, the filesystem treats the files in such directories in a special way so only the file's owner, the directory's owner, or root user can rename or delete the file

ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? Regards Harri

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 15 aug 21, 00:41:30, ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/15/21 12:31 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to attempt to reach a text console. If that's > > successful, then he can login there (as root) and attempt to install > > whatever's required to fix the problem > > >  - that Text C

Re: apt-upgrade (Bullseye) shows 1 pkg not upgraded

2021-08-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 10 aug 21, 13:32:09, Jim Popovitch wrote: > How can I determine what the "1 not upgraded" package might be? > > > ~$ apt-get update > Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease > Hit:2 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease > Hit:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/de

Re: zoom client for bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread albcares
I would suggest trying a different browser: Vivaldi. It's a "fork" of chromium, with some interesting features. I.e. it solved my troubles with teams in mint 17.3; maybe not a solution, just a practical patch... Il lun 30 ago 2021 02:33 Robbi Nespu ha scritto: > Last time (that time bullseye sti

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 05:05:49PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > With Zsh, there is the "redisplay" zle command, it does exactly that: > redraw the prompt and command without clearing the screen. > > I do not know if readline, used by bash, has the same feature available. Interesting. I've neve

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12021-08-30): > What you want to do is redraw the current command. The easiest way to > do this is to press Ctrl-L. (Or if you're in vi mode, ESC Ctrl-L, and > then you'll need to go back to command mode.) > > This clears the whole screen, though. So if there's information you >

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Nicolas George
Thomas Anderson (12021-08-30): > It's hard for me to describe, so here is an example of I am looking to > emulate (this is from a mac). > > https://cloud.little-beak.com/s/KxpjEHJ5RTEYZmS Are you typing the ^R that appear on the screen? What is the shell you are using? Does it have a line editor

Re: Soft link confusion

2021-08-30 Thread Gary L. Roach
Thank you all for the help. Edwardo's mnemonic is a great help. So is the rest of the information. As to the BackupPC configuration change. While it is possible to redirect the backup in the config file, it is specifically not recommended. Not sure why. Thanks again. Gary R. On 8/29/21 5:34

Re: Canonical way to configure bonds for Bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
George Shuklin wrote: > Hello! > > > We are building Debian bullsye images for our bare-metal servers, and there > is a bit of ambiguity on 'canonical way to configure network bonds'. > Wiki gives options with ifenslave and systemd-networkd, and there is an > option to do it with post-up and ip

Re: Soft link confusion

2021-08-30 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 10:18 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 29/08/2021 21:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The syntax is: ln -s TARGET LINKNAME > > > > I.e. you specify the existing thing first, and the name of the link that > > you want to create last. > > If you need a mnemonic, this is ju

Re: Soft link confusion

2021-08-30 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 29/08/2021 21:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: The syntax is: ln -s TARGET LINKNAME I.e. you specify the existing thing first, and the name of the link that you want to create last. If you need a mnemonic, this is just like cp. $ cp ORIGINAL NEW creates NEW as a copy from ORIGINAL. Similarly, $

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
> On 30/08/2021 14:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > What you want to do is redraw the current command. The easiest way to > > do this is to press Ctrl-L. (Or if you're in vi mode, ESC Ctrl-L, and > > then you'll need to go back to command mode.) (I mis-spoke slightly. I meant "exit from command mod

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Thomas Anderson
It's hard for me to describe, so here is an example of I am looking to emulate (this is from a mac). https://cloud.little-beak.com/s/KxpjEHJ5RTEYZmS On debian, I have tried many different terminal emulators, and all the visible options to get this type of behavior, but have failed. =( On 30/08/

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Nicolas George
Thomas Anderson (12021-08-30): > I would really like to be able to use terminal in such a way that when I > backspace, it will echo the line I am currently typing > > 1. say if I am receiving data into the terminal window, and > > 2. I have *not* pressed carriage return. > > My issue is: if I am

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 12:26:32PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: > My issue is: if I am typing to terminal, while receiving data, and I > backspace -- I just don't know how far I have backspaced, I have to guess. What you want to do is redraw the current command. The easiest way to do this is to

Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-30 Thread Thomas Anderson
Hello Debian Users, Maybe someone can help a brother out. I would really like to be able to use terminal in such a way that when I backspace, it will echo the line I am currently typing 1. say if I am receiving data into the terminal window, and 2. I have *not* pressed carriage return. My is

Re: Specifying dedicated partions during install - pros/cons?

2021-08-30 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:30:53 AM Andy Smith wrote: > In general it is best to have the simplest layout of filesystems > possible that still matches your use case. Most of the time that > will be a single partition for everything. In general I agree. I have had more complicated setups in the

Re: Debian stable + backports + testing

2021-08-30 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 07:19:14AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 8/28/21 5:35 PM, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > > Hello everybody out there! > > > > On 2021/08/29 at 02:26 am, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > That said, Dan's advice is quite solid: have your mixed environment in a > > > VM, chroot, o

Canonical way to configure bonds for Bullseye

2021-08-30 Thread George Shuklin
Hello! We are building Debian bullsye images for our bare-metal servers, and there is a bit of ambiguity on 'canonical way to configure network bonds'. Wiki gives options with ifenslave and systemd-networkd, and there is an option to do it with post-up and ip route. ifenslave is broken due to