Re: Install Debian 10 amd64 onto USB flash drive with and for Macintosh

2021-08-31 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 1/9/21 10:39, David Christensen wrote: If I now power up the machine with the buster-mac USB flash drive installed and hold the Option key,  I see the MacBook firmware disk window showing the internal SSD only; the target USB flash drive with the Debian instance is not shown. David I'ts

Re: Install Debian 10 amd64 onto USB flash drive with and for Macintosh

2021-08-31 Thread David Christensen
On 8/31/21 3:53 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have an Apple MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) with an Intel Core i7-4770HQ processor, 16 GB memory, and 256 GB SSD: If I now power up the machine with the buster-mac USB flash drive installed, Debian starts.

OpenCL driver for AMD

2021-08-31 Thread Fernando Isnaldo
Hello colleagues from the Debian community. I have a desktop with an AMD Radeon RX 56 Vega and I know this video card has at least 2 OpenCL drivers made for it, the AMDGPU Pro and the rocm. I would like to install the rocm driver, but apparently it doesn't exist in the Debian repositories. The

Re: Install Debian 10 amd64 onto USB flash drive with and for Macintosh

2021-08-31 Thread Dan Ritter
David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have an Apple MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) with an Intel Core > i7-4770HQ processor, 16 GB memory, and 256 GB SSD: > > > If I now power up the machine with the buster-mac USB flash drive installed, > Debian starts. > > > > If I now pow

Install Debian 10 amd64 onto USB flash drive with and for Macintosh

2021-08-31 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have an Apple MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) with an Intel Core i7-4770HQ processor, 16 GB memory, and 256 GB SSD: https://support.apple.com/kb/SP719?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro The laptop has two USB 3.0 ports. I

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 15:27:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > >

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
"sudo which hash" shows nothing. Not sure whey. sudo is an external program, which launches other external programs. When you type "sudo which hash", your shell (zsh) forks a child, and that child executes "sudo". sudo does its authentication/authorization dance, and then executes "which ha

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 20:26 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:44:09AM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: [...] > > Actually, I don't know this. When I wrote unpredictable new naming > > scheme I meant systemd's enps scheme, since it's > > unpredictable for me as long as I don't lear

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > > > > > Is t

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > > > Is there a way to find out why it is masked ? > > Starting from a point

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > Is there a way to find out why it is masked ? Starting from a point of zero context? Probably not. You MIGHT be able to scroll back through

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 02:20:12PM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > Ok, it is there after all, as a built-in. I was mindlessly trying "sudo hash > -d fzf". I guess trying with sudo doesn't work. > > "sudo which hash" shows nothing. Not sure whey. sudo is an external program, which launches other ext

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: On 8/31/2021 7:36 PM, mick crane wrote: Since I didn't really need LVM and I wasn't thrilled with having the intrid.img at 70,00 bytes big I installed bookworm afresh. After installing all the software I might want it's grown from 13,00 to 30,00

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
(tl;dr: use type, not which) OK, thanks.

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
There's `hash -r' for that (bash, dash). I'd bet that zsh has something along that lines, too. Cheers - t Ok, it is there after all, as a built-in. I was mindlessly trying "sudo hash -d fzf". I guess trying with sudo doesn't work. "sudo which hash" shows nothing. Not sure whey.

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread john doe
On 8/31/2021 7:36 PM, mick crane wrote: Since I didn't really need LVM and I wasn't thrilled with having the intrid.img at 70,00 bytes big I installed bookworm afresh. After installing all the software I might want it's grown from 13,00 to 30,00 but that's OK. Most things are back wor

masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread mick crane
Since I didn't really need LVM and I wasn't thrilled with having the intrid.img at 70,00 bytes big I installed bookworm afresh. After installing all the software I might want it's grown from 13,00 to 30,00 but that's OK. Most things are back working except having some bother with the

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:19:10AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > > >This sounds like a stale-hash situation. According to my understanding, > >the shell will typically keep a cache of what path it found a given > >command at when it checked for that command in $PATH, so it > >doesn't have > >to re

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:32:12AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > The "hash" command does not appear to even be installed on my system, even > with sudo, maybe because I'm using zsh. But I did a little googling around > and found this tip: unicorn:~$ zsh greg@unicorn ~ % type hash hash is a shell b

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:58:12AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > However, "which fzf" reports the /usr/bin as the location: > > /usr/bin/fzf > > I'm using zsh. unicorn:~$ zsh greg@unicorn ~ % type which which is a shell builtin Zsh is caching the old location, and because "which" is a shell bui

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-08-31 11:19 AM, Steve Dondley wrote: This sounds like a stale-hash situation. According to my understanding, the shell will typically keep a cache of what path it found a given command at when it checked for that command in $PATH, so it doesn't have to re-do the filesystem accesses on

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
This sounds like a stale-hash situation. According to my understanding, the shell will typically keep a cache of what path it found a given command at when it checked for that command in $PATH, so it doesn't have to re-do the filesystem accesses on every run of the command; this mapping of kn

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-31 at 10:58, Steve Dondley wrote: > OK, so I dropped the new fzf into /usr/local/bin. I confirmed it is the > correct version with: > > admin@ip-172-30-0-226 /usr/local/bin >> $ ./fzf --version > 0.27.2 (e086f0b) > > "echo $PATH" reports: > > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
OK, so I dropped the new fzf into /usr/local/bin. I confirmed it is the correct version with: admin@ip-172-30-0-226 /usr/local/bin $ ./fzf --version 0.27.2 (e086f0b) "echo $PATH" reports: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games So it looks like any binary in /usr/local/bin should load fir

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-08-31 10:48 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: Now I'm just wondering if it would be better to keep the old fzf around and put the new fzf into a directory that $PATH loads before /usr/bin. I'm thinking this might be the proper way of

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 16:13:52 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote: > David Wright (12021-08-31): > > The only useful effect of that binding that I've seen is not when > > typing ahead, but at the normal command line > > Of course. When typing ahead, your shell's line editor is not in action, > and ther

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > Now I'm just wondering if it would be better to keep the old fzf around and > put the new fzf into a directory that $PATH loads before /usr/bin. I'm > thinking this might be the proper way of doing this instead of my quick > hack. Ye

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
Either way, the simplicity of the tool (in terms of it being a single binary artifact that is deployed) makes it unlikely that you would encounter any issues in doing this. Regards, -Roberto OK, thank you, Roberto. fzf comes with some shell integration tools like key bindings that can be inst

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 09:07:49AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Bound or unbound, I couldn't make ESC 1 Ctrl-L do anything useful > while output is in progress (like a clean display of the typeahead > so far typed). I couldn't see a way to force echoing the line at > that time. ?? > Six decades o

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
Their build tooling seems very sparse. In particular, it does not support DESTDIR or PREFIX variables. However, that might be OK in this case, as it appears to only produce and install a single artifact: a binary called fzf. If I were in your position, I would run 'make' and then manually pl

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 01:11:33 (+0200), Steve Keller wrote: > Greg Wooledge writes: > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 04:41:55PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Steve Keller wrote: > > > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > > > the release notes I wonder what's the

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 03:56:09PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Harald Dunkel wrote: how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? This has not y

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-31 Thread Nicolas George
David Wright (12021-08-31): > The only useful effect of that binding that I've seen is not when > typing ahead, but at the normal command line Of course. When typing ahead, your shell's line editor is not in action, and therefore its bindings will have no effect immediately. They will have an effe

Re: Specifying dedicated partions during install - pros/cons?

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sun 29 Aug 2021 at 08:27:39 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/28/2021 02:33 PM, songbird wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 28 Aug 2021 at 10:34:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > During the partitioning phase of the install process, the user is > > > > given the option of c

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 21:37:50 (+0200), Harald Dunkel wrote: > how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the > (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not > completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? I would presume that a headless

Re: Get Terminal to Echo line in buffer on backspace

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 30 Aug 2021 at 11:39:14 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 05:05:49PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > With Zsh, there is the "redisplay" zle command, it does exactly that: > > redraw the prompt and command without clearing the screen. > > > > I do not know if readline,

Re: TV hdmi overscan issues

2021-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 08:56:37 (-0400), Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 07:00:02PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > Henning Follmann composed on 2021-08-30 18:09 (UTC-0400):... > > > xrandr --output XWAYLAND3 --mode 1280x720 --transform > > > 1.05,0,-10,0,1,0,0,0,1 > > > to shift th

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread Reco
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:32:32PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 30 aug 21, 16:41:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > > the release notes I wonder what's

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread George Shuklin
On 30/08/2021 23:20, Steve Keller wrote: 't want to have to remember this hardware configurationan and I don't want to type these cumbersome and error prone names. I simply have eth0 for the internal network and eth1 for my external network to the DSL router. That's easy and I want to keep it

Re: Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 09:07:59AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > Running bullseye with fzf package 0.24.3-1+b6. > > Newer versions of fzf (> .27.) have some advanced abilities I'd like to use > but newer versions are not available in backports (at least not that I could > tell) > > I'm thinking o

Tips/advice for installing latest version of fzf?

2021-08-31 Thread Steve Dondley
Running bullseye with fzf package 0.24.3-1+b6. Newer versions of fzf (> .27.) have some advanced abilities I'd like to use but newer versions are not available in backports (at least not that I could tell) I'm thinking of building fzf manually per the instructions here: https://github.com/ju

Re: TV hdmi overscan issues

2021-08-31 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 07:00:02PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Henning Follmann composed on 2021-08-30 18:09 (UTC-0400):... > > xrandr --output XWAYLAND3 --mode 1280x720 --transform 1.05,0,-10,0,1,0,0,0,1 > > to shift the x axis. > ...

Re: Permission Questions

2021-08-31 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Dienstag, 31. August 2021, 00:00:02 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 09:29:14PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 05:07:16PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > unicorn:~$ strace bash -c 'echo stuff >> /tmp/123' > > > [...] > > > openat(AT_FD

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:32:32PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Another completely different approach is to use some other tool to > configure your network that can match on MAC address and just ignore the > names completely. > > For systemd-networkd > > /etc/systemd/network/my.network > > [

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 aug 21, 16:41:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:20:46PM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > > I plan to upgrade a server from Debian stretch to buster. Having read > > the release notes I wonder what's the best way to avoid the new scheme > > of unpredictable network int

Re: How to avoid systemd/udev unpredictable NIC names

2021-08-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 31 aug 21, 01:11:33, Steve Keller wrote: > > I still don't understand, why eth in > a systemd.link file would be a problem, since in the udev .rules this > has worked for years. Greg already explained what problems might show up if you try to use eth. The ud

Re: Soft link confusion

2021-08-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 aug 21, 07:47:13, Gary L. Roach wrote: > Thank you all for the help. Edwardo's mnemonic is a great help. So is the > rest of the information. As to the BackupPC configuration change. While it > is possible to redirect the backup in the config file, it is specifically > not recommended. No

Re: Canonical way to configure bonds for Bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread George Shuklin
On 30/08/2021 17:18, Dan Ritter wrote: George Shuklin wrote: We are building Debian bullsye images for our bare-metal servers, and there is a bit of ambiguity on 'canonical way to configure network bonds'. Wiki gives options with ifenslave and systemd-networkd, and there is an option to do it w

Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports

2021-08-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 16 aug 21, 05:10:36, Michael Grant wrote: > I've been using Testing for about a decade now with very few problems. > But now I'm moving to Stable. Just wanted to mae sure I'm doing this > right. > > I last updated using Testing on the friday, then the release happened > on saturday. I cha