Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 09:34:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > BTW, your shell command, > > !see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > > will give you an answer in the context of a subshell, and > not necessarily in the context of mutt itself [...] Definitely, that's another po

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Sriram
Hi Team i have tried to install the minimal iso file yesterday , but Network Manager is not installing, also build-essentials not there for building the xfce tar files i tried to install the Network manager deb file but it required so many dependencies, i managed to install except one deb fileca

Re: grub-install Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdXY

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 sep 21, 05:49:01, Musbur wrote: > > Now I'm in my "full" Debian system. Next: > # grub-install /dev/sda2 > # apt install [linux kernel] > # update-grub > Error: Cannot find GRUB drive for /dev/sda2 Unless you have a good reason to do otherwise grub is installed in the MBR of the drive,

Re: Package priority puzzlement

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 23:06:54, craig duncan wrote: > > I hope the pointer to the matching priorities on the two different > > repositories was a helpful hint. > > Yes... i suppose that explains the behavior.  Except this seems to mean that > setting APT::Default-Release "stable" in apt.conf has no ef

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 sep 21, 14:58:49, Brian wrote: > > A second issue is if the kernel and its modules in the archive are > updated. The image is tied to the versions of the kernel and modules > that it was built with and will not match what is in the archive. > Breakage again. > > The recommended way to a

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 sep 21, 09:54:29, John Hasler wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > > In theory you could, but in practice it would break well before that. > > I run Sid on my desktop. It's been years since I've had any breakage. > I suspect that it's because I run FVWM, avoid anything connected with > freed

Re: Debian 11, Nvidia Quadro P400, 2xiiyama 2560x1440, nvidia driver

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 sep 21, 15:26:12, Roger Price wrote: > > I got a perfect 2880x2560 screen across the two monitors. I can slide > windows from one monitor to another. but I didn't get much work done. > > nouveau froze after 11 minutes. dmesg reports; > > [ 145.357954] nouveau :03:00.0: firmware

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread David Wright
On Wed 15 Sep 2021 at 16:21:12 (-0500), Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 15 Sep 14:20 -0500, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 15 Sep 14:20 -0500, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > What does this command report? > > > > > > >

Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread David Christensen
On 9/15/21 7:41 AM, nimrod wrote: Hi, my devices (pc, laptops, smartphone) all can surf the internet without problems. So one would say that the router is working properly. But computer A cannot access computer B via SSH as it's alwais being doing for years, and viceversa. They cannot even ping

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > What does this command report? > > > > > > ;see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > Jonathan

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 15 Sep 13:02 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > What does this command report? > > > > > > ;see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > > > > In the message

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > What does this command report? > > > > ;see --norun application/octet-stream:/dev/null > > In the message window, "key not bound", in the view attachment window, > "no ta

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 15 Sep 10:44 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 08:37:51AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > application/octet-stream; vim %s; description=Patch file; > > nametemplate=%s.patch > > application/octet-stream is a fairly generic mime type (and an odd > choice for a text

Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread James Wallen
On 9/15/21 10:51 AM, nimrod wrote: Hi, my devices (pc, laptops, smartphone) all can surf the internet without problems. So one would say that the router is working properly. But computer A cannot access computer B via SSH as it's alwais being doing for years, and viceversa. They cannot even

Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread IL Ka
> > My solution is remove the kernel module (in my case it is ath5k.ko, as it > is > an Atheros card). Removing it with "rmmod ath5k", and when I need to use > it > again, I restart it using "modprobe ath5k". > > If you are wired connected, you can try "ifconfig eth0 down" or whatever > your > ethe

Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 15. September 2021, 16:41:21 CEST schrieb nimrod: Hi, got the same problem, when the ethernet interface is up, too and I am on wifi. This a problem with the gateway settings. My solution is remove the kernel module (in my case it is ath5k.ko, as it is an Atheros card). Removing it

Re: Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 08:37:51AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: application/octet-stream; vim %s; description=Patch file; nametemplate=%s.patch application/octet-stream is a fairly generic mime type (and an odd choice for a text file, but so it goes). You may find vim is not a suitable tool for

Re: Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread IL Ka
> > Computer A can ping computer C instead, and viceversa. No PC can access > the printer website nor print any more. Nor can I scan documents as I could > before, because the scanner is part of the printer. > > Please show "ip addr" and "ip nei show" from all Linux machines and "ipconfig" and "arp

Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread nimrod
Hi, my devices (pc, laptops, smartphone) all can surf the internet without problems. So one would say that the router is working properly. But computer A cannot access computer B via SSH as it's alwais being doing for years, and viceversa. They cannot even ping each other. No firewall on them at

Can surf the internet, but not my home network...

2021-09-15 Thread nimrod
Hi, my devices (pc, laptops, smartphone) all can surf the internet without problems. So one would say that the router is working properly. But computer A cannot access computer B via SSH as it's alwais being doing for years, and viceversa. They cannot even ping each other. No firewall on them at

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/15/2021 6:45 AM, Brian wrote > I was also rather hoping Tanstaafl would contribute a few words on how > the unstable model contrasts with Gentoo's rolling release model. Well, it's been many years, but basically, you could select what 'branch' you were on using keywords (stable, testing, etc)

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread John Hasler
The Wanderer writes: > In theory you could, but in practice it would break well before that. I run Sid on my desktop. It's been years since I've had any breakage. I suspect that it's because I run FVWM, avoid anything connected with freedesktop.org or Gnome, and am careful about when to upgrade.

Re: Dual GPU dual display support in Debian?

2021-09-15 Thread Linux-Fan
Anssi Saari writes: Linux-Fan writes: > Anssi Saari writes: > >> I was wondering, since I didn't really find anything definite via Google >> but is dual GPU dual display actually a supported configuration in >> Debian 11? > > I would be interested in knowing about that, too. I wonder if this

Re: Debian 11, Nvidia Quadro P400, 2xiiyama 2560x1440, nvidia driver

2021-09-15 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 6 Sep 2021, Felix Miata wrote: Roger Price composed on 2021-09-06 22:39 (UTC+0200): Felix Miata wrote: The in-use X/display driver: Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting Available, but not in-use, X/display drivers: unloaded: fbdev,vesa Unloaded X/displ

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Sep 2021 at 10:22:55 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 18:55:20, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only >

Mutt/Neomutt and mailcap

2021-09-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
As there are a lot of Mutt/Neomutt users on this list, maybe someone can point me in the right direction. Recently via another mailing list a message was posted that included a diff file with the extension of .patch. The MIME encoding is shown as application/octet-stream, using Neomutt's view com

Re: Debian 11, Nvidia Quadro P400, 2xiiyama 2560x1440, nvidia driver

2021-09-15 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 6 Sep 2021, Felix Miata wrote: FOSS drivers and xrandr work for me: # xrandr --output DP-1 --mode 2560x1440 --primary --rotate left --output DP-2 --mode 2560x1080 --rotate left --right-of DP-1 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA GF119 [NVS 310] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau I've

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Curt
On 2021-09-14, Brian wrote: >> >> Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it updated >> regularly? > > Why not? Update when you want to. How does this differ from Gentoo's > rolling release aspect? Go for testing if you want to be a little > conservative? > >> Anyone do thi

Re: run script after updating package

2021-09-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Sep 2021 at 11:32:14 +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > Hello, > > is there a way, where i can run a script after updating a spezial > package? > > > I have found this: APT::Update::Post-Invoke {"/thinks/to/do.sh";} > > This would be workaround but nice would be to only run after a spezi

Re: Dual GPU dual display support in Debian?

2021-09-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Linux-Fan writes: > Anssi Saari writes: > >> I was wondering, since I didn't really find anything definite via Google >> but is dual GPU dual display actually a supported configuration in >> Debian 11? > > I would be interested in knowing about that, too. I wonder if this is a kernel space probl

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-15 at 06:45, Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 22:42:12 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-09-14 at 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it >>> updated regularly? >> >> In theory you could, but in practice it would break we

Re: run script after updating package

2021-09-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:32:14AM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > is there a way, where i can run a script after updating a spezial package? Yes, and it's called "dpkg triggers" - [1]. > I have found this: APT::Update::Post-Invoke {"/thinks/to/do.sh";} > This would be workaround but

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 22:42:12 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-09-14 at 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > > > >> On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I

Re: Dual GPU dual display support in Debian?

2021-09-15 Thread Linux-Fan
Anssi Saari writes: I was wondering, since I didn't really find anything definite via Google but is dual GPU dual display actually a supported configuration in Debian 11? I would be interested in knowing about that, too. So basically for a while I ran this kind of setup: Display 1 connected

run script after updating package

2021-09-15 Thread Philipp Ewald
Hello, is there a way, where i can run a script after updating a spezial package? I have found this: APT::Update::Post-Invoke {"/thinks/to/do.sh";} This would be workaround but nice would be to only run after a spezial package was updatet. Thanks Kind regards Philipp -- Philipp Ewald Ad

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:06:47AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 16:33:55, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it updated > > regularly? > > Technically, yes. > > > Anyone do this for important (maybe not 'mission critical') s

Re: Dual GPU dual display support in Debian?

2021-09-15 Thread Felix Miata
Anssi Saari composed on 2021-09-15 10:15 (UTC+0300): > I was wondering, since I didn't really find anything definite via Google > but is dual GPU dual display actually a supported configuration in > Debian 11? > So basically for a while I ran this kind of setup: > Display 1 connected to CPU's

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 18:55:20, Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > > > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want

Dual GPU dual display support in Debian?

2021-09-15 Thread Anssi Saari
I was wondering, since I didn't really find anything definite via Google but is dual GPU dual display actually a supported configuration in Debian 11? So basically for a while I ran this kind of setup: Display 1 connected to CPU's integrated GPU (Core i7-4790K, Intel HD Graphics 4600). Display

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 13:43:20, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Good to know Andy IF I can get networking to survive the reboot. But my > networking is host file based and usually goes away at reboot until > properly configured again. So I kep a printed copy of all that stuff. > > There is not a functioni

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 16:33:55, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it updated > regularly? Technically, yes. > Anyone do this for important (maybe not 'mission critical') servers? I used to run sid as the main system on my daily driver laptop. Having