Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread David Christensen
On 11/15/22 10:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [1] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/images-btrfs/6/68/Btree_TOS.pdf Thank you for the link. Thank you IBM for making that paper public (and not behind a pay wall). David

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread David Christensen
On 11/15/22 06:27, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that "satisfies" me. In this email I want to hyptothesize on what a snapshot might be in the hope that others can correct /

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Nov 2022 at 16:37:58 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 11/15/22 00:22, DdB wrote: > > Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: > > > I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then > > > I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-15 Thread David Christensen
On 11/15/22 07:15, hw wrote: On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: Please loot at this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-network-card-installed-b

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread David Christensen
On 11/15/22 00:22, DdB wrote: Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation, so perhaps there is nothing to be removed (?).  So, I removed the localepurge

Re: initrd sizes mushroomed several months ago

2022-11-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Nov 2022 at 06:54:47 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-11-12 at 01:57, Felix Miata wrote: > > > # grep MODULES= /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf > > MODULES=dep > > # ls -Ggh /boot/initrd.img-[5,6]* > > -rw-r--r-- 1 6.8M May 8 2022 /boot/initrd.img-5.17.0-1-686 > > -rw-r--r-- 1

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread DdB
Am 15.11.2022 um 19:20 schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > It's not you. The whole key server architecture is a mess nowadays. > > Jeff Thank you, Jeff, for your explanation and hints. Just one additional viewpoint from me (an afficionado for data protection) ;-) As i see it, the european law suffers fro

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 11:10:16AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Intentionally top-posting; Thanks to all who replied, I think I have a > pretty > good understanding and I think the biggest thing I was missing was how a file > could be reconstructed using only the metadata, but I now see t

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:01 PM DdB wrote: > ... > i just experienced the same problem, same difficulty understanding the > man pages. Googling suggested to try a different keyserver. > I had to try several ... until i found one, that succeeded. > Apparently, the cause was found to be in the rules

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread Dan Ritter
pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:40:11 -0500 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- > > > I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that > > > "satisfies" me. > > > >

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread debian-user
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:40:11 -0500 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- > > > I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that > > > "satisfies" me. > > > > > > Starting from a beginning,

Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO withDebian?)

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 15:08 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 08:40:47PM +0100, hw wrote: > > Not really, it was just an SSD.  Two of them were used as cache and they > > failed > > was not surprising.  It's really unfortunate that SSDs fail particulary fast > > when used for pu

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread DdB
Am 14.11.2022 um 23:17 schrieb Thomas George: > I am still trying to do a fully verified installation of debian-11.5.0. > > gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS responded with DF98...BE9B > > gpg --recv-keys DF98...BE9B responded key DF98...BE9B: new key but > contains no user ID - skipped. >

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Thomas George wrote: > gpg2 --verify SHA512SUMS.sign debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso > ...gpg: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key Consider to re-read my mail of yesterday: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:19:29 +0100 Subject: Re: No Public Key https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/1

Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?))

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 20:37 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > hw writes: > > > On Fri, 2022-11-11 at 22:11 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > > hw writes: > > > > On Thu, 2022-11-10 at 22:37 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > [...] > > How do you intend to copy files at any other level than at file level?  At  > > that

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 12:22 PM Thomas George wrote: > > Close, almost there. At the end something goes wrong. Here is the output: > > gpg2 keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv DF98...BE9B > > gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trust.db created > > gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: public key "Debia

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread Thomas George
Close, almost there.  At the end something goes wrong. Here is the output: gpg2 keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv DF98...BE9B    gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trust.db created    gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: public key "Debian CD signing  key " imported    gpg: Total number processed: 1   

Re: blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:27 +, Tixy wrote: > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 11:10 +0100, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this module causes delays when booting and I'm finding this in dmesg: > > > > > > [   14.889003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 > > [   20.009003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread Joe
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:27:05 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- > I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that > "satisfies" me. > > In this email I want to hyptothesize on what a snapshot might be in > the hope

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread rhkramer
Intentionally top-posting; Thanks to all who replied, I think I have a pretty good understanding and I think the biggest thing I was missing was how a file could be reconstructed using only the metadata, but I now see the explanation that filesystems that can do snapshots are COW and now things

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > In this email I want to hyptothesize on what a snapshot might be in the hope > that others can correct / amplify it when I go wrong. Nitpicking mode on. > I suppose I could copy the entire contents of > whatever I wanted to make a snapshot of (by any of a variety

Missing libs???

2022-11-15 Thread Hans
Dear list, an installer for an external apps is telling me of missing extensions. These are "glx_sgix_fbconfig" and "glx_sgix_pbuffer". As far as I could explore, these are NVidia related libs and belong to some packages named "glew". As I am using an old NVidia card, which is running 340xx-le

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: > > > Please loot at this: > > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-network-card-installed-but-only-at-100mb

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread paulf
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:40:11 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- > > I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that > > "satisfies" me. > > > > Starting from a beginning, I suppose I could c

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- I've done a > little googling but haven't found an explanation that "satisfies" me. > > Starting from a beginning, I suppose I could copy the entire contents of > whatever I wanted to make a snapshot o

Re: Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread DdB
Am 15.11.2022 um 15:27 schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: > I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- I've done a > little googling but haven't found an explanation that "satisfies" me. I am familiar with snapshots on zfs. There might be different meanings in other contexts, idk

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-15, mick.crane wrote: > On 2022-11-15 14:03, Curt wrote: > I recommend a reboot at this point to remove the currently running >> network and to ensure that your network comes up properly. >> >> This is all it takes for a simple case. >> >> Good luck. > > I used to look how long upti

Explaining snapshots (for backup)

2022-11-15 Thread rhkramer
I'm not really clear on the concept of a snapshot (for backup) -- I've done a little googling but haven't found an explanation that "satisfies" me. In this email I want to hyptothesize on what a snapshot might be in the hope that others can correct / amplify it when I go wrong. Starting from a

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 02:21:01PM +, mick.crane wrote: > On 2022-11-15 14:03, Curt wrote: > I recommend a reboot at this point to remove the currently running > > network and to ensure that your network comes up properly. > > > > This is all it takes for a simple case. > > > > Good luck. >

Rebooting [was: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6]

2022-11-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 02:03:19PM -, Curt wrote: > [...] (whether this is a somehow invalidating reminder of > Microsoft Windows is left as the traditional exercise): I know that smugness. I'm old, after all :-) That said, as age accrues, I've learnt an upside of rebooting after sweeping co

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-15 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-11-15 14:03, Curt wrote: I recommend a reboot at this point to remove the currently running network and to ensure that your network comes up properly. This is all it takes for a simple case. Good luck. I used to look how long uptime was but now I reboot in case I broke something th

Re: how to add more ipv6 addresses to an interface that is being configured through dhcpv6

2022-11-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-14, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 15/11/22 00:22, Curt wrote: >> On 2022-11-14, jeremy ardley wrote: >>> >>> Network Manager is terrible. Some of the instructions include you having >>> to reboot your system to make chages take. >> What "instructions" would those be, and of what provenan

Re: blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-15 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 11:10 +0100, hw wrote: > Hi, > > this module causes delays when booting and I'm finding this in dmesg: > > > [ 14.889003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 > [ 20.009003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 > [ 25.129003] mei_me :00:16.0: h

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-15 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 12:28 +0100, stefano gozzi wrote: > > Please loot at this: > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/intel-x540-t2-network-card-installed-but-only-at-100mbit-cant-change-or-improve-4175686736/ > > > > It see

blacklist mei_me?

2022-11-15 Thread hw
Hi, this module causes delays when booting and I'm finding this in dmesg: [ 14.889003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 [ 20.009003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 [ 25.129003] mei_me :00:16.0: hw_reset failed ret = -62 [ 25.129315] mei_me :00:16.0

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread DdB
Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: > I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then > I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation, so > perhaps there is nothing to be removed (?).  So, I removed the > localepurge package. > > > David I

Re: gpg says no user ID

2022-11-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 05:17:25PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > I am still trying to do a fully verified installation of debian-11.5.0. > > gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS responded with DF98...BE9B > > gpg --recv-keys DF98...BE9B responded key DF98...BE9B: new key but contains > no user