Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 23 May 2023, Tom Reed wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 08:24:10AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: Sorry for my newbie question too. If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: 255.255.255.0 Isn

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 07:48:46PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/22/23 15:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > That's right, but then they go 0 .. 2^8 - 1. 2^8 is still 256, Tim does > > have a point there :-) > > > I don't see it, 255 is all 8 bits set, 256 is all 8 bits cleared and carry

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:26:47PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Reed wrote: > > > > > > > > If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 > > And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 > > Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: 255.255.255.0 > > > > Isn't it? > > > No. What

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:08:26PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 07:39:21AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > > For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I > > calculate the netmask? > > I hope this is a theoretical question, because this is backwards. > Norm

Help with Optimus and external monitor use

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Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
> > Why are you asking these questions? What's your ACTUAL issue? > > > > IIRC, last year my ISP gives me 8 IPv4, they said the first is network > addr, the last is broadcast addr, then I have to calculate the netmask by > myself. Well, they told you the additional necessary information: 8 addr

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Purgert
On May 22, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/22/23 15:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:16:09PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 5/22/23 03:32, Tim Woodall wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > > >  number; for (human) display it is su

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tom Reed
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 08:24:10AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: >> Sorry for my newbie question too. >> >> If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 >> And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 >> Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: >> 255.255.255.0 >> >> Isn't it? > > Not ne

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2023-05-22 Thread Christian Gelinek
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Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:24 PM Tom Reed wrote: > > > > Tom Reed wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > That's right, but then they go 0 .. 2^8 - 1. 2^8 is still 256, Tim > >> does > >> > have a point there :-) > >> > > >> > >> For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I > >> calculate

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 08:24:10AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > Sorry for my newbie question too. > > If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 > And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 > Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: 255.255.255.0 > > Isn't it? Not necessarily. PROB

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Reed wrote: > > > > If I know the network addr: 192.168.1.0 > And know the broadcast addr: 192.168.1.255 > Then I should have the possibility to cal the netmask addr: 255.255.255.0 > > Isn't it? No. What's the netmask if you have: IP: 192.168.255.132 broadcast: 192.168.255.255 ? -dsr-

Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates

2023-05-22 Thread Gary Dale
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Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Reed wrote: > > > > > That's right, but then they go 0 .. 2^8 - 1. 2^8 is still 256, Tim does > > have a point there :-) > > > > For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I > calculate the netmask? You can't. You can assume that the broadcast address is the last us

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tom Reed
> Tom Reed wrote: >> >> > >> > That's right, but then they go 0 .. 2^8 - 1. 2^8 is still 256, Tim >> does >> > have a point there :-) >> > >> >> For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I >> calculate the netmask? > > > You can't. > Hello Sorry for my newbie question t

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy Butterworth
On May 22, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 07:39:21AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: >> For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I >> calculate the netmask? >I hope this is a theoretical question, because this is backwards. >Normally you would sp

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 07:39:21AM +0800, Tom Reed wrote: > For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I > calculate the netmask? I hope this is a theoretical question, because this is backwards. Normally you would specify the IP address and the netmask, and the software wou

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread gene heskett
On 5/22/23 15:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:16:09PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 5/22/23 03:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:  number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks (called "octets" for obvious reasons

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tom Reed
> > That's right, but then they go 0 .. 2^8 - 1. 2^8 is still 256, Tim does > have a point there :-) > For a given ipv4, if I know net addr and broadcast addr, how will I calculate the netmask? -- sent from https://dkinbox.com/

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2023-05-22 Thread David Christensen
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Re: virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
mick.crane wrote: > On 2023-05-22 20:10, Dan Ritter wrote: > > mick.crane wrote: > > > This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge. > > Try KVM/QEMU, which is available via the libvirt tools; the > > primary graphical interface is virt-manager, and the primary CLI > > is virsh. > > >

Re: virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread mick.crane
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Re: virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 02:35:52PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > On 5/22/2023 2:10 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > mick.crane wrote: > > > This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge. > > > For one reason and another this PC/Workstation (what is the difference?) > > > boots in legacy mode. It

Re: virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread Mark Allums
On 5/22/2023 2:10 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: mick.crane wrote: This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge. For one reason and another this PC/Workstation (what is the difference?) boots in legacy mode. It was something to do with the SS usb port not booting the installer in EFI mode. I

Re: virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
mick.crane wrote: > This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge. > For one reason and another this PC/Workstation (what is the difference?) > boots in legacy mode. It was something to do with the SS usb port not > booting the installer in EFI mode. > I forget exactly. > Anyway, it's a

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:16:09PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/22/23 03:32, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >  number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks > > > (called "octets" for obvious reasons), and those octets only can

virtualisation

2023-05-22 Thread mick.crane
This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge. For one reason and another this PC/Workstation (what is the difference?) boots in legacy mode. It was something to do with the SS usb port not booting the installer in EFI mode. I forget exactly. Anyway, it's a niggle that it is legacy mo

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread gene heskett
On 5/22/23 03:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:  number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks (called "octets" for obvious reasons), and those octets only can go from 0 to 255 (since 2^8 == 255). Nit, but 2^8 is 256. . The octets cou

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2023-05-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 22 May 2023 10:29:41 +0200 Aleix Piulachs wrote: > I’m using a laptop ASU’s f75a i3 3110m with bullseye 11.7 and I can’t > to activate the thermal drivers: fancontrol.service, fancontrol.pid, > lm_sensors.service. fancontrol.pid I don’t know to configure it Some modern computer firmware

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 06:11:50AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: [...] > Point-to-point links should have a mask of 255.255.255.252. This provides > a Network, Broadcast and two host addresses. In practice, I've seen both: /30 and /31. Wikipedia [1] quotes RFC3021, which states /31 for th

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
cor...@free.fr wrote: > On 22/05/2023 11:08, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2023, cor...@free.fr wrote: > > > In CIDR a host address is xx.xx.xx.xx/32 which means 255.255.255.255. > > > isn't it? > > > > > > > It depends on what question you're asking. > > > > An individual address is a

Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:36 AM wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 03:16:56PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > [...] > > > I purged lightdm, rebooted and re-installed it but got the same errors. > > > > I don't believe this is a problem with lightdm because it is also > happening > > with gdm3 and sddm

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 6:12 AM wrote: > On 22/05/2023 11:08, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2023, cor...@free.fr wrote: > > > > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> In CIDR a host address is xx.xx.xx.xx/32 which means 255.255.255.255. > >> isn't it? > >> > > > > It depends on what question you're ask

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 22 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 3:41?AM Tim Woodall wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the Loopback interface. I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid i

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 3:32 AM Tim Woodall wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks > > (called "octets" for obvious reasons), and those octets only can > > go from 0 to 255 (since 2^8 == 255). > > > Nit, but

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 3:41 AM Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the > > Loopback interface. > > > > I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid it but isn't it normal for > point-to-po

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread coreyh
On 22/05/2023 11:08, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023, cor...@free.fr wrote: Hello, In CIDR a host address is xx.xx.xx.xx/32 which means 255.255.255.255. isn't it? It depends on what question you're asking. An individual address is a /32, but a host address might be listed as a /2

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 22 May 2023, cor...@free.fr wrote: On 22/05/2023 09:41, Tim Woodall wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the Loopback interface. I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid it but isn't it norma

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Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread coreyh
On 22/05/2023 09:41, Tim Woodall wrote: On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the Loopback interface. I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid it but isn't it normal for point-to-point links to have a netmas

Re: Fwd: thermal drivers

2023-05-22 Thread piorunz
On 22/05/2023 09:32, Aleix Piulachs wrote: -- Mensaje reenviado - De: *Aleix Piulachs* mailto:ap77@gmail.com>> Fecha: El lun, 22 may 2023 a las 10:29 Asunto: thermal drivers Para: mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>> I’m using a laptop ASU’s f75a i3 3110m with bullseye 11

Fwd: thermal drivers

2023-05-22 Thread Aleix Piulachs
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Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:41:13AM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the > > Loopback interface. > > > > I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid it but isn't it normal for >

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 08:32:14AM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks > > (called "octets" for obvious reasons), and those octets only can > > go from 0 to 255 (since 2^8 == 255). > > >

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sun, 21 May 2023, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: The only address that should have a netmask of 255.255.255.255 is the Loopback interface. I don't much use ipv4 any more if I can avoid it but isn't it normal for point-to-point links to have a netmask of 255.255.255.255? It definitely can be

Re: netmask question

2023-05-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 22 May 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: number; for (human) display it is subdivided into four 8 bit chunks (called "octets" for obvious reasons), and those octets only can go from 0 to 255 (since 2^8 == 255). Nit, but 2^8 is 256.

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