Re: apt-get joke

2008-05-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 25 May 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Owen Townend wrote: On 25/05/2008, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2008 03:11:05

Re: C++ programming: keeping count of data items read from file

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, H.S. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/08 11:42, H.S. wrote: Hello, In a C++ program I am reading a data file for later processing and computations. While reading that data file, I want to keep track of data

Re: [OT] C++ programming: keeping count of data items read from file

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/06/08 12:50, H.S. wrote: Robert Baron wrote: What is so terrible about counting the items as they come in? As I mentioned earlier, the issue is how do I count items read in one line, or before the next EOL? Counting total items is not a

Re: [OT] C++ programming: keeping count of data items read from file

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, H.S. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Is this a binary file or a text file? hmm. Text. I made it clear in the original post. Ron has trouble keeping up with things like that. It's so hot where he lives his brain is often overheated with the lest bit of mental effort. Hal

Re: [OT] C++ programming: keeping count of data items read from file

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, H.S. wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 06 May 2008, H.S. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Is this a binary file or a text file? hmm. Text. I made it clear in the original post. Ron has trouble keeping up with things like that. It's so hot where he lives his

Re: usb to serial

2008-05-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 04 May 2008, NN_il_Confusionario wrote: On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:49:24PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: - a supported usb to serial cable for linux that works with the kernel? - If the kernel supports it will a software daemon (brltty) support it? I have never used such

How To Find Which Sound Device Is Used?

2008-04-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
This could be an issue with Darkice, but I think at this point it's more that I'm not sure what sound device I'm using. I have a system running Sarge (yes, it'll be updated to Etch, then eventually Lenny in my copious amounts of free time!) and I have a radio hooked up to it through the sound

Re: creating a ProDOS boot diskette

2008-04-17 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 17 April 2008, Richard Lyons wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 07:54:19AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 01:04:14AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: [...] Hal (Who still misses his Apple //e with a *fully socketed* motherboard, a whopping 5 MB hard drive

Re: creating a ProDOS boot diskette

2008-04-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/16/08 21:15, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: Folk, I have a copy of ProDOS-System.zip which unzips to Apple II System Disk 3.2.dc. Can a Debian make a ProDOS boot diskette? Should dd work? dd should be able to do it, if the hardware is

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ron, I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, even if they did),

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:10 -0500 Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dave, younger. It was just weird. Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? To a degree, yes. In the end, if that's all it is, then it's unfulfilling. Patrick

Re: Debian? Not true GNU/Linux?? Say it isn't so!

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 09:39:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: as RMS would in saying closed source is unethical. I also have to wonder if he would have the same stance if, when he started that crusade, he weren't at a university, but had

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote: I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve rather than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would do if he had a kid to feed and his choice was to program

Re: reply to list was Re:[Somewhat More OT] Closed source software

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Mark Allums wrote: It's not my mailer, it's me (I use Thunderbird/Mozilla/Icedove), and I have to apologize for it. Please be considerate to others and use an email client that is aware of reply-to-list feature. From

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents. Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote: On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote: I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth at all? I can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children are an extremely valuable asset to a species in the now

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote: AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he held in Belgrade, Serbia. I have

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ivan Savcic wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the user to choose to use

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Ivan Savcic wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the user

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:42:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote: AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Ivan Savcic wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost assuredly

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: Ivan Savcic wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem

Re: [Somewhat OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: ... There's the rub. There are practical/political impediments to the exercise of genuine software freedom (the whole panoply of patents, NDAs etc.) which no software license, no matter how progressive, could ever hope to effectively combat. So it

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/04/08 19:09, s. keeling wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote: AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1].

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 04 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: ... If RMS is basing his ideals on the GNU charter, I don't think he read it clearly enough. Free: As in freedom. This should apply whether a person wants to use pure open source software, closed source software, or a mix of both. This is

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: | On Friday 04 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: | ... | | If RMS is basing his ideals on the GNU charter, I don't think he | read it clearly enough. Free: As in freedom. This should apply | whether a person wants to use

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote: | On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip | That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...) | | No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter

Re: Debian? Not true GNU/Linux?? Say it isn't so!

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: | On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote: | Ron Johnson wrote: | | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote: | | On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | snip | | | That smells

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 03 April 2008, CaT wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a gentoo mate. So how did mating Gentoo go for you? Do Gentoos mate? I thought they reproduced by spores. Hal -- To

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 28 February 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:01AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: I'd rather the same effort be put into the things that give Debian its uniqueness in the first place. Maybe I'm a snob on the sysadmin/programmer end of things, but if someone

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: ... Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only using firefox to check email, hardly the grandest most eye opening event). Debian is not aimed at the same

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: ... Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only using firefox to check email

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 12:42 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/15/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:56:28AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell you why that's not true but there's a bunch of mean looking guys at my door. I figure it's either the Spanish Inquisition

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 8:08 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being turned into a newt. ;) Only if 'es not dead yet. Or been eaten by a swallow, laden or unladen. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being

Apache and Page Lengths (OT?)

2008-01-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
This may be more of a Java OR an Apache issue, but it looks like it might fall into some nether region or apply to servers directly. I've put up questions in a couple specific forums, but I'm asking here in case it's in a gray area between the two. I'm reading web pages served by Apache on a

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/08/08 21:15, s. keeling wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over 90% of GNU/Linux-Users I know are suckers... Yeah GNU/Linux is free (of charge) and thats all they want. If you only listen to d-u and Usenet, the power of

Re: Java swing gui designer???

2008-01-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 03 January 2008, Margiolas Christos wrote: Hello any advise for a good java swing designer? Either independent app either eclipse plugin.. Margiolas Christos Eclipse has a Visual Editor. It's a plug in that should be easily downloaded through the Software Updates item on the

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, David Brodbeck wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 08:20, s. keeling wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Says you. I think you should spend the next year in a Cat in the Hat

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast.

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, but I'm still

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 30 December 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/30/07 21:04, Paul Johnson wrote: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my browser of choice for

Re: PUPPIES AVAILABLE FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-12-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 25 December 2007, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Mihira Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Dec 25 07:28 -0600]: and these puppies are on Etch, Lenny or Sid ? :p Puppy Linux, of course! Have you ever watched a puppy try to walk? They're not exactly stable. Definitely in Sid... Hal --

Re: How Linux becomes Windows

2007-12-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 13 December 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 05:27:30PM +0100, Dirk wrote: I won't start commenting on all this HAL, udev and similar bullshit. But this error message when I used modconf: update-modules deprecated Is another sign that people here are

Re: How Linux becomes Windows

2007-12-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 10 December 2007, cothrige wrote: Dirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I won't start commenting on all this HAL, udev and similar bullshit. I agree about HAL, and the thing really just makes me nervous. I was apparently right too, because when I turned it off via update-rc.d, my box

SSH - Relay?

2007-12-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
There are times when I'm at a client's system and I need to access my home computer to tell it to resend data or do something similar so I've just ssh'ed in to my home computer from outside. My firewall forwards a port to my workstation and there's no need to go into the rest of the security

DHCP Client Won't Connect

2007-11-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a default Sarge installation that I had to move to a new network. It had been getting the address through DHCP with no problem. Now, on the new network, it tries to connect to a DHCP server, but there's no connection. I was not able to copy down the messages because the business was

Re: DHCP Client Won't Connect

2007-11-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 20 November 2007, you wrote: On 21/11/2007, Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a default Sarge installation that I had to move to a new network. It had been getting the address through DHCP with no problem. Now, on the new network, it tries to connect to a DHCP server

Re: DHCP Client Won't Connect

2007-11-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 20 November 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:03:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: Would that be a setting on their router or on their Windows server? My guess is it depends on whether my system is behind uses NAT. Whatever they use as the DHCP server

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 16 November 2007, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: This question is informational and there is no urgency. I'm not going to cover what has the first response has said, but I have a bit I can add: When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and password I

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 17 November 2007, Ted Hilts wrote: ... What I was trying to say is that I am not sure where the AiiNET prompt is coming from. Is it coming from the ISP or is it being manufactured by Minicom as some respone. I think the AiiNET prompt is coming from the ISP just as the user and

Re: jvm 1.6.0_03

2007-10-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 07 October 2007, martin yazdzik wrote: Is anyone else having issues with jvm 6 and gtk 2.12? Java 6 is an issue unto itself. I finally decided to move all my clients back to Java 5 because of too many little glitches on both Linux and Redmond OS. That all my clients are non-local

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Mike McCarty wrote: Mike Bird wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 09:55, Mike McCarty wrote: (big snip) Anyway, that's it, FWIW. Long message wth no specifics. No way to help you. I wasn't asking for help. I'm telling you that due to perceived lack of

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Joe wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: I provide this only to let you know that it looks like Debian is going to lose a user to Windows shortly, due to perceived lack of concern over user's difficulties shown by those who do support for Debian. I have gently nudged

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Mike McCarty wrote: Mike Bird wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 12:45, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm not trying to be mean, either. I'm reporting a single event. We're all volunteers here. You too. If you find time I guess some of us would appreciate your

Re: Sex spam again on the list

2007-09-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 09 September 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 09:15:32PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: This has got more than a joke now. We are being bombarded with s-x spam yet again. ... Sorry if this sounds

Re: Sex spam again on the list

2007-09-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 09 September 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 22:41, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 09:15:32PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: This has

Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! most of server-related work are very specialized program I wrote myself. another example: seeding in bittorrent, if memory is big enough and file being served is small enough. Also, depending on RAM size, even if you think everything

Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Julian De Marchi wrote: Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do you mean that there's nothing I can do about it? snip Silly question. No, it isn't and if you want to actually help someone instead of just

Re: [OT] Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/07 01:45, Serena Cantor wrote: I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server) The machine is Sarge? Isn't that slightly Jurassic? I don't know, I'm

Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do you mean that there's nothing I can do about it? Why not try ps -ax or ps -aux to get a list of programs running at any time? Then examine the crontab files as well and

Re: (solved) Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! So did you locate one program in particular that was creating most of the noise? Others might want to know that answer at some point. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 07 September 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! I don't create swap partition during installation. I don't know if Debian uses a swap file or not. Someone else would know. If so, then you might still be hearing noise from swapping. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Rogue Directory

2007-09-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
Yesterday I created a new directory on my workstation so I could mount a few NFS mounts on it. As root, I typed mkdir /thresh and it worked, or seemed to. I realize I didn't actually list it, I just tried mounting the imported filesystems on it and it worked. Now when I list it, I get:

Re: Rogue Directory

2007-09-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 05 September 2007, Hal Vaughan wrote: Yesterday I created a new directory on my workstation so I could mount a few NFS mounts on it. As root, I typed mkdir /thresh and it worked, or seemed to. I realize I didn't actually list it, I just tried mounting the imported filesystems

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:19:06AM -0800, Britton Kerin wrote: I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone could point me to? (Though I will

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a root account on any Debian release. The only difference

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: Celejar wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] While it's just a small, niggling detail

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, 应富鸣 wrote: ... If you want to use GNOME, Ubuntu is also a good choice. It's very stable. But if you want to use KDE, as far as my experience, KUbuntu is less stable than both GNOME of Ubuntu and KDE of Debian. I've found Kubuntu quite stable. The only difference

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Charlie wrote: On Friday 31 August 2007 12:47, Miles Bader shared this with us all: --} --} -- --} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose --Janis Joplin I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song? And performed it as well. I have a recording

OT: Suggestions for AM/FM or FM Only Receivers

2007-08-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm working on some music streaming on a Debian system (currently Sarge, but will be updated soon) with Slimserver. I like being able to stream all the music on my hard drive and Internet radio stations to wifi devices around my home. The one thing I miss is local radio. I'd like to find a

Testing Spare Drives in Software RAID

2007-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
I know mdadm offers a --test command, but it seems quite useless: -t, --test Generate a TestMessage alert for every array found at startup. This alert gets mailed and passed to the alert program. This can be used for testing that alert message to get through successfully.

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 20 August 2007, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.20.1627 +0200]: 3) RAID 5 is not resilient against multiple failures.  We now use RAID 1. RAID 1 is also faster, although it sometimes requires more drives. In extreme cases we use RAID 1

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 20 August 2007, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.20.2022 +0200]: In this case, I had 4 drives, so if one failed, then the spare should have been added but that hadn't happened. I thought your original email said it did resync the spare

Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 20 August 2007, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.20.2114 +0200]: It did on the first failure. Then another failed and I turned the machine off. When I got 2 more drives, I put them in and it rebuilt the array using 3 of the drives

Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 23:59, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 20:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: Has anyone built a RAID out of USB

Syncing GPE PIM Data on a PDA With a Workstation

2007-08-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
I recently bought a Nokia 770, which is a Linux based PDA. At this point the only reason I haven't been able to stop using my older Palm Tungsten is because I still haven't found a good system for syncing PIM data between the Nokia and my workstation. I use KDE, including apps like Kontact,

User Name Not Allowed

2007-08-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
Since I started using Linux, I've used the same username, hal, for logging in. With Sarge this was no problem since, somehow, it adapted for the actual hal programs. The first problem I had with it was with Ubuntu, but I got by that by just upgrading my old install instead of making a new

Re: User Name Not Allowed

2007-08-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Franz Pletz wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 09:23:45PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: I installed Etch on a computer for my Mother today and it wouldn't allow me to use hal. On all my email accounts and other accounts on all the systems I deal with, I've always used

Re: User Name Not Allowed

2007-08-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/19/07 20:23, Hal Vaughan wrote: Since I started using Linux, I've used the same username, hal, for logging in. With Sarge this was no problem since, somehow, it adapted for the actual hal programs. The first problem I had

Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a RAID5 on 3 drives with a spare. One drive failed and it rebuilt itself using the spare, then, before I could replace the spare, a 2nd drive failed. I shut it down, got some new drives (bigger to be sure they weren't too small, allowing for differences in drive sizes reported by

Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working with USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in using the same order

Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working

Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 20:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd rather hear from others who may have done

Virtual Networking Interface Problem

2007-08-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New routers are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network uses the 172.16.*.* address space. I've had this in my workstation's /etc/network/interfaces file: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.7.11 netmask

Re: Virtual Networking Interface Problem

2007-08-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 06 August 2007, Anson Gardner wrote: On Monday 06 August 2007 12:12, Hal Vaughan wrote: I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New routers are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network uses the 172.16.*.* address space. I've had this in my

Re: how to set up a wireless network?

2007-08-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 03 August 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: first, I consider wireless LAN, but I learn that wireless can't connect computers in different rooms. From Wireless-howto: The most important thing in Wireless communications is the line of sight clear: you MUST SEE (with eyes or with a

Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a server running Sarge. I tried to find lame and got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]$ aptitude show lame Package: lame State: not a real package This was after trying to install it just by the name lame. Then I did this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]$ aptitude search lame p flamethrower -

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Manon Metten wrote: Hi Hal, On 7/26/07, Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a server running Sarge. I tried to find lame and got this: Snip Neither toolame or glame provide lame itself. It's LPGL, does that create a conflict with Debian's social

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
Uh, just ignore that other response. I forgot which e-mail was still on the screen when I hit reply. It's just one of those days... Hal On Thursday 26 July 2007, Hal Vaughan wrote: Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions and offers. I've contacted someone who will be swapping routers

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: I know there's an issue with MySQL and permissions with an easy work around, but other than that, I want to have time to check out known issues before I upgrade a server. Wise plan. In fact setting up a Sarge machine

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: Manon Metten wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: Neither toolame or glame provide lame itself. It's LPGL, does that create a conflict with Debian's social contract? The mp3 encoder is patented outside of the context

Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have an NVidia GEforce 6800 with two monitors attached. One is a widescreen, hooked up with a DVI cable, at 1680x1050, and the other is hooked up with a VGA cable and set at 1280x1024. They are working, but there are two issues I'd like to resolve. According to KDE, the CRT is #1 and the

Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize the widescreen as my first screen? See the nvidia driver document: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz Option TwinViewOrientation string

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