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I'm not even going to dignify this with a reply other than
Who cares? Nobody on the debian list, while reading the debian list.
They might care when reading another list, but this offtopic crap.
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 05:49:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Joe Rhett writes:
I
confused me, er itself really :-(
Are you using a specific package manager that gave you more control?
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:12:43PM -0500, Sven Heinicke wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 09:22:33AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote:
When you do 'apt-get upgrade' you will only update stable-stable and
(maybe) testing-testing updates. If it doesn't do testing-testing,
then you have to do each
to tell me how great the Debian package management stuff
is, but I really ain't seeing it. Everything is still hack-it-yerself and
live your life through Google.
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and
rebuilding kernels to test drivers, so 'stable' as such didn't exist.
I was doing most of the grunt work to get SMC network adapter cards
functional and tested, as well as bitching about how lousy the NFS client
was.
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on production systems. You're flying
by the seat of your pants, just like every other Linux distro.
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useless in a production
environment.
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it well. You are telling me to use a different package
manager. I had that answer before I started this thread.
Which one?
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just introduce confusion in that case.
Although I totally understand your logic, the idea I am hoping can work is
to run 'stable' by default, and upgrade to 'testing' versions of packages
only as necessary to fulfill a given need.
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wrong sometimes when you run lots of really new versions of stuff.
We have no desire to run unstable, but if that's the only way to have
modern, unbroken versions of business applications then we'd have no
choice, now would we?
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that there is a
loss of commonality...
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This would allow us to keep high-uptime systems running the same kernels
and such as our test/burn/destroy/rebuild laptops ;-)
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On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 02:35, Joe Rhett wrote:
I find it kindof sad that testing really doesn't appear to have any
function any longer. One would like to run from testing and leave unstable
for the well, unstable stuff. But I haven't really found much in testing,
which means one must
-listchanges and apt-show-bugs can help
make sure an upgrade is a wise choice before you do it.
You've got to be kidding me. Hm, let's base the stability of our system on
whether or not someone bothered to report a bug? With no way to go back?
Right...
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, it appears that if one actually wants to use Debian as a desktop,
one has no choice but to throw the debian guidelines out the window and run
with unstable. This means you lose commonality with any server
'stable' systems you might need to run.
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Now -- skip the download and compile yourself. No fun. And skip the
'download the 'zilla net installer and use that' -- because I already have.
But I want to know how to solve this problem and stay within the Debian
framework.
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