Re: How to get an email notification every time a package is updated upstream?

2024-06-29 Thread John Crawley
On 30/06/2024 12:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 20:12:36 -0700, Will Mengarini wrote: All we still need to know is whether the OP cares about packages that aren't installed, or whether some other aspect of Greg's solution isn't sufficient. If there's interest in new versions

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-29 Thread John Crawley
On 28/06/2024 18:42, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 28/6/24 16:13, John Crawley wrote: Except that midnight is also 0:00, so you still have the am/pm confusion. They should have kept 0:00 just for midnight really. That's the first time I've seen anything to justify calling m

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-27 Thread John Crawley
On 28/06/2024 14:00, Erwan DAVID wrote: Le 28 juin 2024 13:12:03 David Wright a écrit : On Wed 26 Jun 2024 at 12:50:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:25:38 -0500, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: 12 Noon and 12 Midnight works. David Wright wrote: Except that The Wan

Re: [SOLVED] Trouble/bug with initramfs-tools adding encrypted swap partition

2024-04-26 Thread John Crawley
On 26/04/2024 12:56, David Wright wrote: On Fri 26 Apr 2024 at 11:27:24 (+0900), John Crawley wrote: Innocent question: what difference does the comment make vs just ending the file with an empty line? Nothing for the computer, but visibility for me. Say you print the file on paper. All you

Re: [SOLVED] Trouble/bug with initramfs-tools adding encrypted swap partition

2024-04-25 Thread John Crawley
On 24/04/2024 22:37, David Wright wrote: On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 14:50:36 (+0200), Richard wrote: upon gathering my thoughts for answering to you I found the solution to this: update-initramfs can't handle the case that crypttab ends in the line of the last entry and not in a new line character. I

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-20 Thread John Crawley
On 21/04/2024 08:40, Mike Castle wrote: One thing Linux-Fan mentioned was `config-package-dev`. In my OP, I commented about ``slightly old to really old tools'', and that was one I was thinking of. It looks like it hasn't been touched in seven years, and I wasn't sure if it still worked. But t

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/04/2024 03:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less fore

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread John Crawley
On 07/03/2024 21:04, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote: --- sninp --- Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; dkim=fail reason="signature

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

2024-03-04 Thread John Crawley
On 05/03/2024 11:36, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/03/2024 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 10:49:34AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: I think ^ has been deprecated recently. I failed to find a reference on the web just now though. So, ^ isn't "deprecated".  It'

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

2024-03-04 Thread John Crawley
On 05/03/2024 11:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 10:49:34AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: On 05/03/2024 05:27, David Wright wrote: Which shell also matters. The OP appears to be using ^ to negate, but ! has the advantage that it will be understood in bash and dash. I think

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

2024-03-04 Thread John Crawley
On 05/03/2024 05:27, David Wright wrote: Pattern matching in the shell is not the same as in grep: the rules are different, but similar enough to confuse. Grep uses regular expressions, while the shell is usually globs. (I have no experience of shells other than dash and bash though.) Bash can

Re: bash parameter expansion "doesn't like" dots?

2024-03-03 Thread John Crawley
On 04/03/2024 10:07, David Wright wrote: On Sun 03 Mar 2024 at 17:58:53 (-0600), Albretch Mueller wrote: bash doesn't seem to like dots too close to brackets: echo "${_VAR//[^0-9a-zA-Z.,_-]/}" works fine. On 3/3/24, Albretch Mueller wrote: _VAR="admissions.piedmont.edu_files?trackid=w

Re: counting commas

2024-01-18 Thread John Crawley
On 19/01/2024 16:10, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: why doesn't grep count 2 commas echo 'Kích thước máy xay cỏ, giá máy thế nào , phụ tùng máy mua ở đâu' | grep -c , 1 echo 'Kích thước máy xay cỏ, giá máy thế nào , phụ tùng máy mua ở đâu' | cut -d, -f1 Kích thước máy xay cỏ echo 'Kích thướ

sudo+use_pty+urxvt+pipe [WAS: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12]

2023-12-24 Thread John Crawley
On 26/09/2023 11:52, John Crawley wrote: On 25/09/2023 20:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:14:24AM +0200, Michael wrote: so i looked into /etc/sudoers and all /etc/sudoers.d/* and found two suspicous flags: /etc/sudoers: Defaults   use_pty /etc/sudoers.d/0pwfeedback

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 13:39, John Crawley wrote: If you don't want to wait for 6.1.67-1 to arrive in Bookworm stable, it is available in bookworm-proposed-updates [1][2], so one workaround would be to temporarily add that repository [3] to apt sources before upgrading. Debian point release 12.

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-14 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 02:48, Kevin Price wrote: "The bug" (Bug#1057967 & Bug#1057969) occurs only in kernel version 6.1.66-1 (package -6.1.0-15, released with bookworm 12.4). No other debian kernel version has this bug. It might not affect you, and it can be remedied/worked around. If it does affect you

Re: The bug

2023-12-12 Thread John Crawley
On 13/12/2023 15:24, Geert Stappers wrote: An attempt to get beyond FUD |Debian Bug report logs - #1057967 |linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 renders my physical bookworm/gnome computer largely unusable version graph |Package: src:linux; Maintainer for src:linux is Debian Kernel Team ; |Affects: src:

Re: How can I find packages manually installed using "dpkg -i"?

2023-10-04 Thread John Crawley
On 05/10/2023 13:15, David Wright wrote: On Tue 03 Oct 2023 at 19:58:57 (-0700), Mike Castle wrote: (apt-mark showauto ; apt-mark showmanual) > apt-thinks-you-installed.txt dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package}\n' | grep -v -F -f apt-thinks-you-installed.txt > rest.txt (I've added the omit

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-25 Thread John Crawley
On 26/09/2023 12:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:52:09AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: On 25/09/2023 20:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: Given the presence of an /etc/sudoers.dpkg-dist file on my system, which does in fact contain this: # This fixes CVE-2005-4890 and possibly breaks

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-25 Thread John Crawley
On 25/09/2023 20:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:14:24AM +0200, Michael wrote: so i looked into /etc/sudoers and all /etc/sudoers.d/* and found two suspicous flags: /etc/sudoers: Defaults use_pty /etc/sudoers.d/0pwfeedback: Defaults pwfeedback then consulting the sud

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-25 Thread John Crawley
Many thanks to Michael for finding the change in sudo behaviour! For historical accuracy: On 25/09/2023 20:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 01:35:38PM +0900, John Crawley wrote: 4) In a bash shell as root (e.g. "su" or "sudo -s"), do: errors=$(apt-get

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-24 Thread John Crawley
On 25/09/2023 12:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:58:13AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: adduser tmp adduser tmp sudo Log in to tmp (no graphical session set up), and the results are the same: behaviour in a bash shell is wrong, everything else works. I simply can't repr

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-24 Thread John Crawley
On 25/09/2023 11:58, John Crawley wrote: So the 32bit system is different?? Doesn't semm to be that. amd64 Bookworm VM behaves the same way. -- John

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-24 Thread John Crawley
Thanks for the ideas! On 25/09/2023 09:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:10:28AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: I just tried, and yes it runs OK when the commands are in a script. But type directly into the terminal: errors=$(sudo apt-get install mirage 2>&1 1>/dev/tt

Re: apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-24 Thread John Crawley
On 24/09/2023 21:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 12:03:12PM +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: #!/bin/bash errors=$(sudo apt-get install unknown 2>&1 1>/dev/tty) echo "output: $errors" errors=$(sudo apt-get install mirage 2>&1 1>/dev/tty) echo "output: $errors" [...] It waits until I

apt-get aborts in subshell with redirections on Debian 12

2023-09-24 Thread John Crawley
Hi folks, I've just about run out of ideas here, so appealing for suggestions. I don't know if this is a change in the behaviour of apt or bash, or both, between Debian 11 and 12. I have a script which is supposed to smooth out some apt actions, while still keeping user interactions, but with

Re: question about rc.local

2023-03-10 Thread John Crawley
On 11/03/2023 00:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-03-10 09:58:55 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 04:55:03PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: Nicolas George writes: Anssi Saari (12023-03-09): After=network.target # /usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service.d/debian.conf [Unit]

Re: Debian bug report etiquette

2023-02-27 Thread John Crawley
On 27/02/2023 19:58, Jonathan Dowland wrote: I see the maintainer has uploaded a new version with a fix for your issue (--execute), but they have pointed out that the original bug was complaining about something different (-c): I hadn't noticed the difference, and it seems only the former is a po

Re: Debian bug report etiquette

2023-02-27 Thread John Crawley
On 28/02/2023 09:00, John Crawley wrote: On 27/02/2023 19:58, Jonathan Dowland wrote: I see the maintainer has uploaded a new version with a fix for your issue (--execute), but they have pointed out that the original bug was complaining about something different (-c): I hadn't notice

Re: Debian bug report etiquette

2023-02-27 Thread John Crawley
On 27/02/2023 19:58, Jonathan Dowland wrote: I see the maintainer has uploaded a new version with a fix for your issue (--execute), but they have pointed out that the original bug was complaining about something different (-c): I hadn't noticed the difference, and it seems only the former is a po

Re: Debian bug report etiquette

2023-02-24 Thread John Crawley
Hi Jonathan, thank you for your advice. On 24/02/2023 07:15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: [ honouring Reply-To as set ] Thanks, I'll drop that header in future. Debian Python Team maintain a huge number of packages (>2,000). Things can very easily slip through the cracks. Indeed, and everyone's

Debian bug report etiquette

2023-02-22 Thread John Crawley
Hello people, with the Bookworm soft freeze already under way, the time left for fixing packages is running low, and there's a specific case where I'd appreciate advice. The package is terminator[1], a python based extension (I think) of Gnome terminal. I don't use it myself, but the current

Re: Xfce4: screen visible upon resume before xscreensaver locks it

2022-02-22 Thread John Crawley
On 23/02/2022 11:50, John Crawley wrote: On 22/02/2022 23:12, Celejar wrote: Hello, I'm running Xfce4 on a recent install of Sid. I have configured Xfce4 to "Lock screen before sleep" (in Session and Startup / General), but when I use xscreensaver, when resuming from suspen

Re: Xfce4: screen visible upon resume before xscreensaver locks it

2022-02-22 Thread John Crawley
On 22/02/2022 23:12, Celejar wrote: Hello, I'm running Xfce4 on a recent install of Sid. I have configured Xfce4 to "Lock screen before sleep" (in Session and Startup / General), but when I use xscreensaver, when resuming from suspend the screen is often visible for a brief period before xscreen

Re: Installing bullseye into previously existing encrypted disk with buster

2022-02-16 Thread John Crawley
On 16/02/2022 05:26, Nitebirdz wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 09:36:45AM +1100, David wrote: I'm not really paying attention to the latest capabilites that the installer might have, or to what any other distros are doing, but when I have attempted this in the past it appeared to me that the Debi

Re: cooperative.co.uk has address 127.0.0.1

2022-01-19 Thread John Crawley
On 20/01/2022 04:46, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/01/22 04:08, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: So - the Cooperative Society - is at https://www.coop.co.uk Oddly, when I searched for "Co-operative Group Limited" (which I got from whois), I found a different site: https://co-operative.coop It seems t

Re: downsides to replacing xfce4-terminal?

2022-01-07 Thread John Crawley
On 08/01/2022 12:00, David Wright wrote: On Fri 07 Jan 2022 at 14:46:04 (-0500), Lee wrote: right - another unknown. There's a /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper that starts off with #! /usr/bin/perl -w # # Terminal.wrapper - Debian terminal wrapper script which I don't know who calls or even wh

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-07 Thread John Crawley
On 06/01/2022 03:26, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 "Paul M. Foster" wrote: Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is relatively easy to configure? Claws-mail and mutt for two. Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use do

Re: xmodmap settings lost when (usb) keyboard reattached.

2021-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/12/2021 01:53, Tim Woodall wrote: I run the following command to switch my caps-lock to escape: xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 0x42 = Escape' However, if I disconnect and reconnect my keyboard (I have a KVM switch box so this happens quite a lot) the setting is lost. Before I start w

Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

2021-08-21 Thread John Crawley
On 18/08/2021 21:16, Harald Dunkel wrote: ...sid becomes the next release in 2 years Sid is always sid. Testing (now Bookworm) will become stable in ~2 years. -- John

Re: why pdf file at archive.org is so slow to open

2021-07-04 Thread John Crawley
On 04/07/2021 23:43, Siard wrote: On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 17:03 +0800, loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote: i've found many books at archive.org in pdf formatbut reading them in acrobat for linux is painful, it's slow it's fast in acrobat for androidand i think it's fast in Windows adobe has stopped upgr

Re: Bullseye: exo-utils 4.16.0-1 and exo-preferred-applications???

2021-04-10 Thread John Crawley
On 10/04/2021 00:26, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:03:24 +0900 As near as I can tell, exo-preferred-applications has gone away entirely. That does seem to be the case. https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/-/commit/c955a4806f92eb25d341ad71714f558800efa55c#b0e6c4c10d3fff48da

Re: Bullseye: exo-utils 4.16.0-1 and exo-preferred-applications???

2021-04-08 Thread John Crawley
On 09/04/2021 08:38, Charles Curley wrote: The programs exo-csource and exo-preferred-applications seem to be absent from the package exo-utils, in spite of being advertised as still being there. This is version 4.16.0-1 of the package, on Bullseye. exo-preferred-applications has been moved fro

Re: Rebuilding Debian Live gnome image fails

2021-02-12 Thread John Crawley
On 12/02/2021 17:16, Matthijs wrote: On 12-02-2021 03:12, John Crawley wrote: On 09/02/2021 21:40, Matthijs wrote: Following the Debian Live manual on using a predefined configuration(https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/managing-a-configuration.en.html#333

Re: Rebuilding Debian Live gnome image fails

2021-02-11 Thread John Crawley
On 09/02/2021 21:40, Matthijs wrote: Following the Debian Live manual on using a predefined configuration(https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/managing-a-configuration.en.html#333): $ mkdir live-images && cd live-images $ lb config --config https://salsa.debian.org/liv

Re: Who installed package "foo"?

2020-11-02 Thread John Crawley
On 02/11/2020 12:31, Victor Sudakov wrote: David Wright wrote: On Mon 02 Nov 2020 at 09:52:53 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: When I want to figure out what package has installed package "foo" as a dependency, is there a less barbaric method than apt-get -s remove foo In a

Re: Zoom.

2020-10-19 Thread John Crawley
On 20/10/2020 04:57, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Bob McGowan Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will give an exit status of zero and you will simply see the next prompt. That is as expected. At least one earlier reply had ou

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-09-01 23:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do th

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

2020-08-06 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-08-06 20:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: For short strings, doing this sort of parsing in bash is fine. But as you can see, on large inputs, it does not scale well. The fact that each iteration makes a *copy* of nearly the entire remaining input doesn't help matters, either -- right off the ba

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

2020-08-05 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-08-05 22:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:04:32PM +0900, John Crawley wrote: This method cuts off the first part of the string, up to the delimiter, and adds it to the array, then continues with what's left of the string until there's none left: Yes, that

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

2020-08-04 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-07-14 21:52, Albretch Mueller wrote: I have a string delimited by two characters: "\|" _S=" 34 + 45 \| abc \| 1 2 3 \| c\|123abc " which then I need to turn into a array looking like: _S_AR=( " 34 + 45" " abc" " 1 2 3" " c" "123abc" ) Is it possible to do such things in ba

Re: shell script: test for graphical session

2019-10-29 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-10-29 22:38, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2019-10-29 14:32:39 +0900, John Crawley wrote: A (bash) script wants to put up a GUI (yad) if it can, or otherwise try to interact with the user on the terminal. >> --- loginctl show-session -p Type $XDG_SESSION_ID and looking for 'T

shell script: test for graphical session

2019-10-28 Thread John Crawley
A (bash) script wants to put up a GUI (yad) if it can, or otherwise try to interact with the user on the terminal. Previously I was using loginctl: loginctl show-session -p Type $XDG_SESSION_ID and looking for 'Type=x11' or 'Type=wayland' However, if a user logs in on a tty and then runs 'star

Re: installing lazpaint (a non-debian package) on a debian system, ideally in a user-level account

2019-10-18 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-10-19 11:24, Dan Hitt wrote: There's a piece of software, lazpaint, that i would like to install on my debian system. The project dates from 2011, so i think it's pretty well established. https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazpaint/ So i'm wondering if there's some way to invoke dpkg to ge

Re: How good is AI?

2019-08-26 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-08-25 11:55, John Hasler wrote: It can be plausibly argued that ELIZA passed the Turing test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#ELIZA_and_PARRY Followed a link there to read about the Chinese Room thought experiment by John Searle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room Fas

Re: dash/bash: exec behaviour change on Buster

2019-07-18 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-18 14:53, Richard Hector wrote: On 18/07/19 1:29 PM, John Crawley wrote: However, try running in a terminal: echo $$ exec #Then, in the new terminal: echo $$ The two PIDs are different! (or were here) Yes. You exec'd a terminal, which then started a shell. You'll probab

Re: terminal window returns prompt (was: dash/bash: exec behaviour change on Buster)

2019-07-17 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-18 10:29, John Crawley wrote: Hi tomas and Thomas, thanks for your input. I think I have a basic idea of what exec does. However, try running in a terminal: echo $$ exec #Then, in the new terminal: echo $$ The two PIDs are different! (or were here) On 2019-07-17 17:37, Thomas

Re: dash/bash: exec behaviour change on Buster

2019-07-17 Thread John Crawley
Hi tomas and Thomas, thanks for your input. I think I have a basic idea of what exec does. However, try running in a terminal: echo $$ exec #Then, in the new terminal: echo $$ The two PIDs are different! (or were here) On 2019-07-17 17:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: John Crawley wrote: In Buster

dash/bash: exec behaviour change on Buster

2019-07-17 Thread John Crawley
The behaviour of exec seems to have changed from Stretch to Buster - whether using bash or "sh" (dash here). Simple test, in default bash shell on terminal: sh # now with dash exec x-terminal-emulator # close new window In Stretch, the launching dash shell is held until the new one is close

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-13 06:39, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...some developers wrongly thought that recommends was same as suggests and therefore used depends far more than really needed. This. Installing with Recommends used to pull in a whole slew of things that should have been Suggests, so users got into

Re: Looking for a Couple of Programs in Buster

2019-07-11 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-12 04:44, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 03:40:17PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: both ckermit and dosemu are in stretch and unstable but not in stable -- I assume they failed to build or had a similar critical bug. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ckermit https://tracker.deb

Re: HTML mail

2019-07-11 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-11 16:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 11 iul 19, 15:52:56, John Crawley wrote: On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote: ...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without exposing the recipient to attacks

Re: HTML mail

2019-07-10 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-11 15:25, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 11 iul 19, 12:31:07, John Crawley wrote: ...user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and without exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply not following any web links would be enough I'd have thought? Or are there some more s

Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook)

2019-07-10 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-10 15:31, Reco wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:35:33AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: On 2019-07-10 01:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:48:22PM +0200, mjonsson1...@gmail.com wrote: Please post only text, not HTML. If your email agent *cannot* do plain text alone

Re: chromebook

2019-07-09 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-07-10 01:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:48:22PM +0200, mjonsson1...@gmail.com wrote: http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";>

Re: Recover data from unallocated space

2019-06-05 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-06-06 01:24, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 05.06.2019 19:52, Vipul wrote: I had a dual booted PC ( Windows and Debian in HP notebook with 1 TB hard-disk) and from few months Windows cannot starts ( because one day I was in hurry change size of two of partitions using "gparted' and to f

Re: get my ip address

2019-02-16 Thread John Crawley
On 16/02/2019 14.28, David Wright wrote: On Sat 16 Feb 2019 at 11:10:32 (+0900), John Crawley wrote: On 16/02/2019 08.54, David Wright wrote: On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 22:04:42 (+), Darac Marjal wrote: If you're going to recommend parsing `ip`, the -j option may be more amenable to scri

Re: get my ip address

2019-02-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/02/2019 08.54, David Wright wrote: On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 22:04:42 (+), Darac Marjal wrote: If you're going to recommend parsing `ip`, the -j option may be more amenable to scripting. (JSON output) On 15/02/2019 15:52, David Wright wrote: On Fri 15 Feb 2019 at 12:02:20 (+0100), Markus

Re: shell script problem

2019-02-05 Thread John Crawley
On 06/02/2019 03.17, ghe wrote: On 2/5/19 9:19 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Have you tried replacing "-" with \45 yet? That's the ascii equivalent for "-'. Excellent idea. But: root@sbox:~# systemctl unmask \45.mount Unit 45.mount does not exist, proceeding anyway. (Same with quotes.) You mi

Re: system stops

2019-01-28 Thread John Crawley
On 28/01/2019 18.18, Paul Sutton wrote: On 1/27/19 12:11 PM, BELAHCENE Abdelkader wrote: Sometimes (maybe often) when I leave the system for a times without touching it, when I come back, the system is frozen , juste the pointer of mouse can move, but nothing else,  keyboard doesn't respond,  ev

Re: Looking for advice on tools (or libraries) for unsupervised, bulk symmetric encryption/decryption of files

2019-01-13 Thread John Crawley
On 13/01/2019 12.46, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:45:57 + I believe that the most commonly used software for file level encryption is EncFS. I haven't really used it much, and can't speak to its long term stablity. EncFS should not be used for any new file encryption project, IMHO

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-06 Thread John Crawley
On 06/01/2019 00.26, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 04, 2019 08:21:30 PM David Wright wrote: On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 14:02:27 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Having babbled for the last two paragraphs, I'll close buy saying that I will revert to the entire installation on the sa

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-26 Thread John Crawley
On 09/11/2018 20.40, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 06:59:48PM +0300, Reco wrote: lxde-core depends on www-browser already (Suggests, actually, but that's irrelevant). So it might as well depend on this to-be-done x-www-browser. Yes. That's exactly what I am advocating in the

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-08 Thread John Crawley
On 09/11/2018 00.59, Reco wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 03:53:54PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:53:01AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: www-browser and x-www-browser being different things, this would be a bug in the LXDE metapackage? It is indeed, yes,* but what&#

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-07 Thread John Crawley
On 08/11/2018 00.47, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:50:02PM +0300, Reco wrote: So it kind of makes sense for gnome-core to depend on gnome-www-browser, isn't it? Or there's a reason why using gnome-www-browser is unsuitable for GNOME DE? Yeah that makes perfect sense in tha

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread John Crawley
On 06/11/2018 04.24, David Parker wrote: Thanks for the information.  I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium.  Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-note

Re: Help with gitlab

2018-10-26 Thread John Crawley
On 27/10/2018 05.20, Dennis Wicks wrote: Anybody know the secret command to get the source in some usable format? I always use 'git ' directly. Install it from the Debian repos if necessary. On GitLab there's usually a box with the git url, but it's probably just https://gitlab.com/username/re

Re: An appropriate directory search tool?

2018-10-21 Thread John Crawley
On 21/10/2018 22.48, David Wright wrote: On Sun 21 Oct 2018 at 05:25:05 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/20/2018 08:16 PM, John Crawley wrote: On 20/10/2018 19.28, Richard Owlett wrote: ...I would have expected to use an explicit pipe command between 'find' and 'g

Re: An appropriate directory search tool?

2018-10-20 Thread John Crawley
On 20/10/2018 19.28, Richard Owlett wrote: ...I would have expected to use an explicit pipe command between 'find' and 'grep'. In fact, depending on the exact conditions of your search, you might not need to use find at all. 'grep -r' will do a recursive search, starting at whatever directory

Re: basilisk-browser

2018-10-18 Thread John Crawley
On 18/10/2018 18.16, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: What the world needs (badly) is more browser alternatives. I'm seeing everything converging towards the dystopia where one huge corporation controls the server and the client. We had that, and it wasn't pretty; nowadays with smartphones, always-on, IoT

Re: Slow firefox and high cpu usage

2018-10-14 Thread John Crawley
On 14/10/2018 12.17, bw wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote: On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote: I agree with this opinion, and also what Dan Ritter replied. Firefox is now unreliable on stretch and should be avoided. Security updates to a browser that crashes with

Re: Firefox no longer able to play videos on Facebook

2018-10-04 Thread John Crawley
On 03/10/2018 16.14, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:49:31 +0900 John Crawley wrote: Hello John, The extended support firefox-esr is available in Debian Stretch (not Buster atm) at version 60.2.1, so enabling sid is not necessary: I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that Per uses testing

Re: Firefox no longer able to play videos on Facebook

2018-10-02 Thread John Crawley
On 02/10/2018 16.37, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 09:17:52 +0200 Per Dalgas Jakobsen wrote: Hello Per, Until a few days ago, Firefox played videos on Facebook without issues, v52 is too old. IDK whether it's being blocked, or sites are using features not available in v52. This is

Re: xdg-open drives me crazy

2018-07-26 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-27 03:21, Markus Grunwald wrote: A few programs that I use, in turn use xdg-open. With web-pages, it gets it completely wrong, no matter what I do: What can I do ...? file $(which xdg-open) /usr/bin/xdg-open: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable OK it's a shell script. Try th

Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

2018-07-15 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-16 04:33, Richard Owlett wrote: Can I a Debian user opt to not install "LSB" without ill effects? Some ...er, many Debian packages depend on lsb-base. 'apt-cache rdepends lsb-base' for a long list. -- John

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-07 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-08 04:35, David Christensen wrote: On 07/07/18 01:51, John Crawley wrote: On 2018-07-07 11:02, David Christensen wrote: On 07/06/18 09:17, Richard Owlett wrote: While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had:     ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-07 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-07 11:02, David Christensen wrote: On 07/06/18 09:17, Richard Owlett wrote: Subject line is poorly phrased. While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had:     ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt I would then manually edit data.txt by replacing

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-04 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-05 09:58, Richard Hector wrote: On 05/07/18 03:53, David Wright wrote: On Wed 04 Jul 2018 at 13:18:14 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: On 02/07/18 05:31, David Wright wrote: On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 22:44:17 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: On 28/06/18 16:40, David Wright wrote: On Wed 2

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-03 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-02 02:31, David Wright wrote: What seems to be lost on people who feel a pressing need for /etc/debian_version to contain a number to satisfy some script that they have written (which seems to be the usual reason) is that /etc/debian_version is a configuration file. I don't know of

Re: Problems with https://manpages.debian.org/ (PS)

2018-06-26 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-06-26 16:30, John Crawley wrote: On 2018-06-24 09:49, Fred wrote: On 06/23/2018 05:23 PM, John Crawley wrote: On 2018-06-24 03:18, Richard Owlett wrote: For the past couple of weeks I've had problems connecting to https://manpages.debian.org/ . Usually these days (last coup

Re: Problems with https://manpages.debian.org/

2018-06-26 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-06-24 09:49, Fred wrote: On 06/23/2018 05:23 PM, John Crawley wrote: On 2018-06-24 03:18, Richard Owlett wrote: For the past couple of weeks I've had problems connecting to https://manpages.debian.org/ . Usually these days (last couple of months?) when I click a link in Fi

Re: Problems with https://manpages.debian.org/

2018-06-23 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-06-24 03:18, Richard Owlett wrote: For the past couple of weeks I've had problems connecting to https://manpages.debian.org/ . Usually these days (last couple of months?) when I click a link in Firefox pointing to an online Debian manpage it takes a very long time to load, and someti

Re: Running GParted and Synaptic without entering password

2018-05-15 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-05-15 22:24, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/15/2018 12:48 AM, John Crawley (johnraff) wrote: Policykit brings its own complications, but I think it should be possible to create a .pkla file in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority to allow a certain user, or group member, to perform an

Re: Running GParted and Synaptic without entering password

2018-05-14 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-05-14 16:56, Joe wrote: On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:43:55 -0500 If your micro-installation contains them, gksu and gksudo are graphical equivalents of su and sudo. I start Synaptic from a menu entry, which uses gksudo. gksu is now deprecated as insecure, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugre

Re: Email tutorial?

2018-04-25 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-04-25 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24016.html My email account recently bounced some messages from this list for that reason. Are mails from this list "marked as from a yahoo address"? I strongly doubt that. FWIW, I see them coming from "lists.debian.org",

Re: Email tutorial?

2018-04-24 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-04-25 06:07, mick crane wrote: On 2018-04-24 20:56, J.W. Foster wrote: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 4.7.1 : Relay access denied. if using external SMTP server you sometimes have to register who is allowed to send mail with them. I had problem not b

Re: How to execute user's scripts when upgrading a certain package via apt/aptitude

2018-03-29 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-03-29 09:15, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 20:00:34 +0200 Mikhail Morfikov said: Is there some variable that holds, for instance, a list of the packages that apt wants to upgrade? In such way it would be easy to set this up. apt list --upgradable will print out a list

Re: How to execute user's scripts when upgrading a certain package via apt/aptitude

2018-03-28 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-03-29 03:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I really thought there's some easy way to include user's scripts when you want to make some additional changes to the upgraded packages, but it looks like the apt mechanism is a little bit limited. But I will try to do something with the trigger and se

Re: How to execute user's scripts when upgrading a certain package via apt/aptitude

2018-03-28 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-03-29 03:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 08:18:24PM +0200, Mikhail Morfikov wrote: On 2018-03-28 20:12, Sven Joachim wrote: I really thought there's some easy way to include user's scripts when you want to make some additional changes to the upgraded packages, but it

Re: apt{-cache,-get,itude} show wrong version of package after update

2018-03-27 Thread John Crawley (johnraff)
On 2018-03-28 02:50, Jean-Baptiste Thomas wrote: After apt-get update, attempting to install ntp tries to download version 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 and fails. It tries to download +deb9u1 because $ aptitude show ntp Package: ntp Version: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u1 State: not installed

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