Re: Rooting an Android Tablet on Debian

2013-03-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, not answering your specific question, but On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:57:18PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for this device snip I use Calibre with the Arc for moving books around but Calibre is useless with the Adobe DRM

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:47:22AM -0600, green wrote: So, imagine that I have a full filesystem and want to fix it by removing a single package. I would need to get a list of manually installed packages, and go through each one of them individually, proposing a removal and saving aptitude's

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-25 Thread Jon Dowland
For simple per-package results, dpigs from debian-goodies gives you what you want (and is little more than a one-liner similar to what was posted by another to this thread, internally.) As for cumulative space, what you want is not how much space a package takes up but to answer the question: for

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:09:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Indeed, but we're talking about 3GB of memory here, which seems hard to justify for such an application. Sure, but my point was it's not a leak. Being memory inefficient is one thing. Leaking memory is where, over time, it takes

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:28:51AM +0100, Peter Viskup wrote: Hi all, just want to share my bad experience with Gnome3 in testing. They have/had some mem-leaks in there. viskup@viskup:~$ uptime 11:10:57 up 16 days, 17:01, 10 users, load average: 1.61, 1.34, 1.07 I'm not sure what this is

Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
You could use GNU units. It appears to treat SI prefixes as strictly base 10, so use the KiB/MiB etc. variants where applicable: $ units 8112116KiB MiB * 7921.9883 / 0.00012623094 Something like …21| awk '/transferred/' {print $1}'|while read i; do units ${i}bytes GiB; done

Re: copy current HDD setout on preseed

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:40:18PM +0100, Frank Lanitz wrote: Depending on your goal you could create the layout and put it into kind of a image. Fastest way would be e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/baa At last as long as you are not writing, whats your goal ;) OP mentioned preseeding. Can they

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Network Manager icon not working well

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: is there any service which monitors status of Ethernet and changes Network manager's icon on gnome-control-panel? Network Manager. For GNOME3, nm does not draw the icon in the display, gnome-shell overrides it and provides its

Re: Debian 7 wheezy should be released by now, don't u think?

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:53:41AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: You can have a look at http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2012/12/14-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_50/ to see the number of release critical bugs. The release should wait until that number is zero. Near zero. I

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:30:24AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: Cinnamon is actually in Sid right now. I haven't tried it, so I don't know how well it works. Thanks for the information. It still won't get into the next stable release, but being officially packaged is likely to be in the one after

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, phi debian wrote: So my question, does next release of debian will be poluted with gnome3, are will we have a choice? Even a dangled gnome2 would be good for me. GNOME2 will be gone, GNOME3 will be present, and the fallback mode has been renamed GNOME

Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-12-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:35:51PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: hummm...I don't know but I care nothing for these code words squeeze wheezy sid etc. I prefer good 'ol stable testing unstable experimental. They both serve their own purposes. The code names continue to point at the same

Re: Problem With exim4 smtp authenication

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
Do either your username or password have a colon character in them? Do you need to connect to a particular port on the remote SMTP server in order to authenticate (e.g., some may accept authentication on the default SMTP port, some might not - you may need to connect to the submission port.) --

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:04:52PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Have a look at the /etc/inittab file. I have: # less /etc/inittab [...] # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now I'm fairly sure that X eats CTRL-ALT-DEL and init doesn't

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:40:18PM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote: El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program ^^^ or its equivalent like on the first system

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Some interesting replies , many of which seem to have not read your message ;) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I get this: britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version Exim version

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a flawed argument. It

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu Debian developer - sorry i have

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - • I was not able to figure what you need help with from your mail • please use a descriptive subject when posting to this list • please do not send HTML to this list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:19:01PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: The best solution for the I must have the very latest, and I must have it now crowd is to switch over to Ubuntu. You can have it right, or you can have it now, but seldom can you have it right now. I must have the very latest…

how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:39:54AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: Let's welcome more (I assume we do want more users on our base, don't we? There needs to be a critical mass; but beyond that point, an increase in numbers is not necessarily beneficial. Agreed for 'mere' users, but another

sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Also very nice is the output of $ ls -l /bin/sh for Ubuntu it's not bash. For modern Debian installations it's not bash either. Switching /bin/sh to dash by default was done principally to make boot times quicker (dash is

shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote: People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:29:15PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Does it really carry weight? With sysvinit, which spawns a lot of sh instances, yes. With something like systemd, no - it tries to solve the same problem in part by not spawning a shell lots of times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
First and foremost, double check that your SATA cables are properly secure. Install smartctl and run smartctl -a /dev/$disk0 (where $disk0 is e.g. sda); check to see if any of the various SMART attributes indicate a problem. Run a short, then a long SMART self test smartctl -t short

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:50PM -0300, Beco wrote: Never heard of it. What is rc? A shell. It's packaged in Debian, oddly enough in package 'rc'. May I suggest you try apt-cache show rc, or google? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:11:54PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: Thanks for the information, Jon. I hadn't realised that! I've merrily carried on using bash. :-/ Bash is a lot friendlier and better suited as a login or interactive shell. The startup time is not so important for that situation.

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:24:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: And I'd *really* like to continue having stable software, and no release till it's ready. I don't think those two things are incompatible with each other. One of the many things that I dislike about Ubuntu, is its habit of releasing

Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk. I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot in UEFI mode (I got a text menu writtent

Re: How to prevent daemons from starting at boot after update?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
One option would be to install and use systemd. Afaik with systemd, one can use socket-based activation: that is, systemd listens on the socket that your daemons will use and only starts those daemons if something connects. You may need to manually configure that behaviour, I don't know whether

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:43:00PM -0300, Beco wrote: I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to search. Good point, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:50:39PM -0600, Nelson Green wrote: 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always   -   12 I think this is bad. Num  Test_Description    Status  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error # 1  Short offline   

Re: Mobile devices ... any of them still use Linux?

2012-11-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:11:41PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It would be nice, if there would be the manpower to enable Linux installs on iThingies. I've seen a proof-of-concept Linux running on (I think) a first gen iPad, but I don't think it's got beyond the cool this is possible stage. I

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:33:40PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: IOW, is there a rush? Perhaps not a rush but I'd *really* like to have a predictable release schedule. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: how to encrypt/decrypt remote folder ?

2012-11-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:52:44AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If I type encfs vs into Google I get: Honestly, doing a basic google search and splurging the results into a mailing list post helps nobody. If you don't have personal experience of solving the problem, don't post. -- To

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:07:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:07:54PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? For systemd-in-Debian, most likely, yes. First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: What has changed? Have you upgraded systemd or other packages?

Re: Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54:57AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: why not warn people to use something that's known for issues only? It isn't known for issues only. There's a lot of heat and noise about problems with systemd, that is true, but a substantial amount of that heat and noise is posts

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:44:39AM -0500, Tom H wrote: The problem is that it's no longer possible for recent versions of udev to compile it without compiling systemd too. The truth is a bit more complicated. You can build just udev from the systemd sources: make udevd rather than the default

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - please trim your quotes. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:05:55PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote: If I am not wrong, there IS such a warning if you do the switch. At least, if you remove the package sysvinit (or whatever name) with aptitude, it will ask you to write an entire sentance which

Re: sid is not for newbies.

2012-11-16 Thread Jon Dowland
The trouble is that testing is very variable: pretty good from freeze onwards, terrible immediately after freeze, etc. - not consistent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: sid is not for newbies.

2012-11-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 07:59:29AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: The trouble is that testing is very variable: pretty good from freeze onwards, terrible immediately after freeze, etc. - not consistent. Neither is Sid

Re: A good GUI MUA? - Was: Gnome3 and Wheezy.

2012-11-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:17:52AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I made less good experiences when using IMAP, e.g. thousands of mails once were loaded 2 times. That sounds more likely to be a problem with your MUA than with the imapd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Gnome3 and Wheezy.

2012-11-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:04:10PM +, GEOFF BAGLEY wrote: I have poor eye-sight, and make much use of CTRL shift + to magnify that which I need to see, and CTRL - to reverse. This was not possible in many GNOME3 cases. GNOME3 has an accessibility icon (silhouette of a human over a circle)

Re: vim

2012-11-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 05:18:52AM -0800, james gray wrote: which vim /usr/bin/vim ls -l /usr/bin/vim lrwxrwxrwx - etc/alternatives/vim ls -l etc/alternatives/vim lrwxrwxrwx - /usr/bin/vim.basic the name /usr/bin/vim is managed by the alternatives system (see update-alternatives(8)) in

Re: The following packages will be REMOVED:

2012-11-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 03:00:41PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: So since I don't have 'aptitude or aptitude-common' installed, why is apt-get trying to remove all my non-free programs? Does it need to remove the non-free stuff before it can upgrade ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk? I suspect what

OT - PCI vs external sound cards for professional audio (was Re: What professional PCIe audio cards do work with Linux?)

2012-11-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:25:51AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: I use an M-Audio Delta 1010LT on Debian Squeeze. Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing! I have an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 which I use for some very amateur messing around. I occasionally hook an Alesis Micron up to it, both MIDI and the

Re: Visualization of directory tree of my machine

2012-11-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:52:35AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 6.0.5 with the default gnome desktop. The default file browser (Nautilus?) does not give the view/perspective I need. If you are planning to upgrade to Wheezy, these are the steps required for nautilus

Re: How to set display resolution manually?

2012-11-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 06:26:02AM -0800, houkensjtu wrote: Basically I don't use any desktop system, instead I use the windows manager: ratpoison. So unfortunately I don't have those utilities come with gnome... The correct answer is probably then xrandr, a command-line tool. -- To

Re: How to set display resolution manually?

2012-11-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 05:37:06AM -0800, houkensjtu wrote: I installed debian-wheezy on my lenovo x121e laptop, and since it comes with a only 11.6 inch display, I plugged in a monitor through VGA port. Fortunately without any configuration I could got the same content display on both my

Re: How to detect what file was installed?

2012-11-07 Thread Jon Dowland
Karl's answer is very thorough for your other questions, On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 02:25:52AM -0800, houkensjtu wrote: I know I can use the which command to detect where a executable file reside in, but how about all the other stuff? Take a look at locate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:23:40PM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: Hoping to add some 'reference', so we can compare actual microcode versions, I find myself with $ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep microcode microcode 0x1b ... Slighly faster to type and run $ grep microcode /proc/cpuinfo

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will have to keep the packages installed, though: as explained above, the microcode

Re: Trojan Detected by Kaspersky in One Debian DVD

2012-11-01 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 08:17:52PM -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: A couple of weeks ago I downloaded to my Windows 7 machine 10 DVD iso files for debian-6.0.6-amd64. I have not yet installed Debian to this machine. Last night Kaspersky anti-virus detected a Trojan in one of the files:

Re: screensaver occasionally stops running (squeeze, gnome)

2012-10-30 Thread Jon Dowland
Argh. I recall having similar problems. It might be the screensaver process segfaulting. Is there anything useful in ~/.xsession-errors? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: First attempt to use preseeding

2012-10-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 07:23:27AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 04:13:17PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: It appears to me that my preseed.cfg file is not being read at all. OK. I don't know the nature of the problem you are trying to fix

Re: First attempt to use preseeding

2012-10-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 04:13:17PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: It appears to me that my preseed.cfg file is not being read at all. OK. I don't know the nature of the problem you are trying to fix, but could it be reproduced/triaged in a virtual machine? It might be much quicker/easier to

Re: First attempt to use preseeding

2012-10-21 Thread Jon Dowland
In my experience, preseeding is pretty awkward. My advice: start from scratch, try to guess the right thing to put in in order to answer the first couple of questions, try it. Did those questions get answered? Then add a few more for the next few questions. Repeat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: 32bit binaries on 64bit system?

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Dowland
What libraries does your binary require? try using ldd to find out. You may have missed a particular 32 bit library dependency. If you are prepared to upgrade to wheezy, multiarch might make this a bit easier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: OT: Various modethods accesing debian-user list

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 06:22:36PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS: Isn't there a sandbox list for such OT talk? We do have a lot of that discussions on that list and should continuing starting it here, but then take it to another list. Well indeed, but you've selectively quoted an OT sentence

Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53:59PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: I understand. Thank you for correcting my humbly mistake. Will comply. You're welcome - and whilst I'm at it, welcome to the list! I hope you find it useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote: hi all, my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7* how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now. Use a partition tool such as gparted or cfdisk to

Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
This can be answered (by a developer) using UDD - http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase The answer today is udd= select count(*),release from public.packages group by release; count | release +-- 2 | wheezy-security 272170 |

Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
I for one am tired of reading OT threads about people's own mail filtering failings. The mails you are receiving will have a proper List-Id header. If your mailer cannot filter on them, then please fix your mailer or change it, don't clog thie list with more irrelevance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Wally, When communicating on a Debian mailing list, please direct your emails at the list address and do not CC the participants explicitly. For this and other rules, please see the Code of Conduct at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Various modethods accesing debian-user list

2012-10-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:23:54AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I am subscribed to debian-user@lists.debian.org in the normal fashion. Last weekend, for an unknown/unknowable reason, mail from all lists from lists.debian.org was interrupted. Also I was unable to connect to the archive page.

Re: Recurring email messages in IceDove and I'm feeling deja vu

2012-10-15 Thread Jon Dowland
Try rebuilding/repairing your INBOX and/or other effected folders. Right-click on the folder in the left-hand pane, select 'Properties' and then Repair Folder. This can happen when Thunderbird's cache gets out-of-sync from the server and it cannot figure out how to get back in sync on it's own. I

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Jon Dowland
The error no such file or directory could be a red-herring in some cases. What is the filesystem and mount options for the drive upon which you've put Java? (output of mount, please) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: devscripts:rc-alert: A patch for on the fly selection of curl or wget

2012-10-09 Thread Jon Dowland
Cool - you should probably send this to the devscripts devel team, though: devscripts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Perl: where is the command in system(command -v wget) documented?

2012-10-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:58:27PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: command is a shell built-in command - so you should find it in the documentation for your shell - e.g. man sh should get you to the right manual page. Exactly *which* shell this is, depends on your system, but it is most likely

Re: Editing org.gnome.desktop.background in /etc/gdm3/greeter.settings doesn't change login wallpaper

2012-10-08 Thread Jon Dowland
Is /opt definitely mounted at the time gdm3 starts? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121008075046.GA10625@debian

Re: Fwd: Re: Security support for CMSes

2012-10-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 08:41:14PM +0200, Robert Pommrich wrote: Putting it back to the list where it came from. It was already there. I'm not sure what you've done to your mail configuration, but list mail is working fine: no need to forward more copies to it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: exim4 smtp server userid

2012-10-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:13:34PM -0400, Marc Auslander wrote: I want to configure exim4 to use the same (google) smtp server with two different userid's depending on the from address. I can put the appropriate tests into my c_smarthost string, but I don't know how to specify the userid -

Re: openmotif 3

2012-10-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 09:25:16PM +0200, Dan wrote: I would like to run a program that requires libXm.so.3 but libmotif3 has been replaced by libmotif4 and I can not find anywhere libXm.so.3. Any idea? I have found that symlinking LibXm.so.3 to LibXm.so.4 works for some legacy applications.

Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?

2012-09-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:23:59PM +0100, Dom wrote: It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not. Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data over asap. YES to backup, but it's worth

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:35:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Maybe we could start some kind of petition for Itanium and AMDINTL64. I think these tell everyone at a glance what they need to know when selecting a port, and would completely eliminate the confusion. Itanium will probably

Re: Sound very *very* quiet on Debian.

2012-09-26 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi Conrad, Please do not reply to an un-related post when you are writing a new topic to a mailing list. For clients that support threading, the result is your discussion mixed up with the other one. This can mean either confusion for people participating in the other thread, or less exposure

Re: Decompressing .m4a .

2012-09-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 04:14:00PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I can not decompress .m4a files w/ mplayer2: Can you play it back with anything else? m4a implies an iTunes-style AAC-encoded file. VLC should be able to decode it, plus anything linking to libfaad, such as

Re: Fwd: RE: /var/spool/mail ?

2012-09-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 06:52:24AM -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: # echo /var/spool/mail/root will replace the content of the file with an empty string The smiley of death is better: # : /var/spool/mail/root -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-25 Thread Jon Dowland
Are you using GNU emacs? Then how about Xemacs (formely Lucid emacs)? or vice-versa. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120925191858.GA26155@debian

Re: Installation

2012-09-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 01:54:39PM +, Camaleón wrote: Okay, then please _describe in detail_ what's what you find that hard or what is taking your time at the Windows OEM installation process. But kindly not on this list. This thread is increasingly becoming more and more OT. Thanks --

Re: EXIM in Debian

2012-09-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 02:48:38PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Third, I'm a bit puzzled by Jon's remarks quoted above. Martin recommends using a single, aka monolothic configuration file. Jon says I disagree but then suggests doing away with the debian framework. Martin was replying to me. My

Re: EXIM in Debian

2012-09-21 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 07:10:18PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I think its better to configure exim4 for single configuration file by whatever means is described in the wiki page Camaleón linked to, likely an dpkg-reconfigure exim4something We differ in our opinion. In my opinion, for

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 07:58:36PM +0200, lee wrote: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: The installer (in expert mode) supports an ssh client on an alternative VT, afaik. One can connect to another machine with stuff already installed via this if necessary. Surely this is sufficient

Re: EXIM in Debian

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Dowland
Do you need split configuration? Are you wedded to it? My advice would be to copy /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated to /etc/exim4.conf, at which point the Debian exim configuration is overridden, and just edit that one file instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-17 Thread Jon Dowland
The installer (in expert mode) supports an ssh client on an alternative VT, afaik. One can connect to another machine with stuff already installed via this if necessary. Surely this is sufficient to address the request. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Storage server

2012-09-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:20:55PM +0200, Veljko wrote: Can you please explain what design flaw is that? Isn't directory with complete backup (but not occupying that much space due to hard links usage) very usable for backup? If slow work can be avoided by the use of XFS, what would be wrong

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:44:46PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Which is why I recommend XFS. It is exceptionally fast at traversing large btrees. You'll need the 3.2 bpo kernel for Squeeze. The old as dirt 2.6.32 kernel doesn't contain any of the recent (last 3 years) metadata

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:03:43PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: http://www.taobackup.com/ Yes indeed, great read. Also this: http://www.jwz.org/doc/backups.html A single external drive, normally stored away from the server, would be enough to have a backup that would survive the host going up

Re: Removing Pulseaudio with Gnome: volume control missing

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:16AM +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: Hi all! Recently I installed Debian on a new computer, and I want to avoid using Pulseaudio (it is problematic for me, and this is a long discussion on this and another lists about that). I tried to uninstall it, and

Re: Storage server

2012-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
I would say that neither hardware nor software RAID are a replacement for a working backup scheme. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Storage server

2012-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Denis' answer is very good, I won't re-iterate his points. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:26:48PM +0200, Veljko wrote: Thanks for your valuable input. So, in case I have to backup lot of small files and only some of them are changed I should go with rsnapshot. If there are big text files that

Re: systemd

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:12:35PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Lennart would not be able to easily push random crap to the kernel upstream even if he tried to. It is a very different situation from userland. How so? Do you believe Redhat, Fedora etc. ship anything

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0200, Veljko wrote: a) backup (backup server for several dedicated (mainly) web servers). It will contain incremental backups, so only first running will take a lot of time, rsnapshot Best avoid rsnapshot. Use (at least) rdiff-backup instead, which is

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:51:05PM +0200, lee wrote: Some people have argued it's even better to use software raid than a hardware raid controller because software raid doesn't depend on particular controller cards that can fail and can be difficult to replace. Besides that, software raid is a

Re: systemd

2012-09-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:08PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Kernel patches from Lennart were properly reviewed, and accepted only after the maintainers and subsystem maintainers approved them as an acceptable solution for the general problem they were supposed to be addressing.

Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 02:04:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Interesting statement. Squeeze (6) is still STABLE. After Wheezy (7) is moved from TESTING to STABLE, Squeeze will be fully supported for at least 1 year. Thus deprecated soon is not accurate, unless your definition of soon

Re: systemd

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:09:52PM -0300, francis picabia wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: In cases of doubt, I'm against using anythin coming from Lennart Poettering. Odd, I can't find Ralph's mail in my d-u archive, was it a private

Re: e2fsck errror: Error reading block (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)

2012-09-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 11:39:37PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: You have to understand: You have to connect it to the controller directly OR You can not use what the SMART offers to You. That simple. This is not actually true. Yes, the majority of USB hard drives do not support SMART, but some do.

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