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On Tue, 3 May 2016 15:32:07 +0300 Piyavkin wrote: > Explaining that since using «bad words» > is being a nazi Just to clarify this again, I never claimed that you or anyone else here is a nazi. > For your information: > > /American Heritage Dictionary of the English

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On 03.05.2016 16:34, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 03 May 2016 14:22:26 Piyavkin wrote: On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: … So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in sympathy with Eric

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Piyavkin writes: > What's wrong with you, guys? Divisive associations. "Solidarity", for example, is almost always directed against some group of perceived enemies. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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On Tuesday 03 May 2016 14:22:26 Piyavkin wrote: > On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > … > > So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International > > Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in > > sympathy with Eric Blair (aka George Orwell).

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On 05/03/2016 08:34 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Politics does not belong here +1 Enough already. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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On 03.05.2016 16:05, John Hasler wrote: Piyavkin writes: You're right. I've already sent to Pablo Escobar and to local criminal lords my letters with apologies. Explaining that since using «bad words» is being a nazi, we shouldn't call them criminals and parasites anymore. Then call them

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On 03.05.2016 02:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: … So it is all a bit circular!! But I find the concepts of "International Workers Day" and "the proletariat" intrinsically unpleasant. I am in sympathy with Eric Blair (aka George Orwell). It is as wrong to murder someone for being an aristo as it is to

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Piyavkin writes: > You're right. I've already sent to Pablo Escobar and to local criminal > lords my letters with apologies. Explaining that since using «bad > words» is being a nazi, we shouldn't call them criminals and parasites > anymore. Then call them criminals. The word "parasite* usually

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On 03.05.2016 01:50, Michael Lange wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2016 14:52:26 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Michael Lange writes: I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly - this sounds a

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Hi, Dan, I have come off list because I find all the politics of this very unpleasant. But I liked your response (inaccurate as it has turned out to be!!!) and felt that it deserved a reply. On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:58:57 Dan Hitt wrote: > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Lisi Reisz

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On Mon, 02 May 2016 14:52:26 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Michael Lange writes: > > I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word > > "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly > > - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech > > So

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Piyavkin writes: > Why you say such about those noble and worthy gentlemen? Well, of course, the epithet applies only to politicians in the other parties. The ones in mine are all noble and worthy gentlemen selflessly dedicated to the Cause. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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Michael Lange writes: > I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word > "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly > - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech So does any classification of people into "them" and "us". -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com

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Hi, Piyavkin wrote: > Have you said «Karl Marx»?!.. Oh, no!.. Lisi will get you! ) I quote him as sincere contributor to political and economical theory. Everybody, who pays Value Added Tax, pays for a thing invented by Marx: The Added Value which - according to his theory - goes into the

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On Mon, 2 May 2016 20:32:17 +0300 Piyavkin wrote: > And by mentioned «professional parasites and criminals» I meant in the > first place exactly those people who live by criminal, fraud, > deception, and literally at other's expense. Which is by definition a > description of

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On 02.05.2016 20:48, John Hasler wrote: Piyavkin writes: But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered «politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? ) ...Ouch! Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many of them are amateur

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On 02.05.2016 19:05, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Haines Brown wrote: Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Piyavkin wrote: No, but it is new growing relations of production. It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the 19th century. He

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Piyavkin writes: > But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered > «politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? ) > ...Ouch! Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many of them are amateur parasites. -- John Hasler

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On 02.05.2016 17:16, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote: professional parasites OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This list is not the place. Lisi Hi, Lisi! Actually, I'm not intended to elaborate the o-topic any further

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Hi, Haines Brown wrote: > > Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Piyavkin wrote: > No, but it is new growing relations of production. It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the 19th century. He expected it to happen for classic economy

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On 01.05.2016 21:27, Haines Brown wrote: Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Haines No, but it is new growing relations of production. Best regards, Dmitry Piyavkin

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On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote: > professional > parasites OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This list is not the place. Lisi

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On 01.05.2016 18:39, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2016 01 May 08:23 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Hans Vogelsberger writes: Why workers only? There are other humans, too. Class struggle. I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade school 40+ years ago. Does that count?

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On 01.05.2016 15:26, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300 schrieb Piyavkin : Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) Have a nice day! Best regards, Dmitry Piyavkin Why workers

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On Sun, 01 May 2016 16:29:40 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > But New Zealand and the Isle of Man (sorry, I have been spelling it > > wrongly) both antedate Finland in granting full suffrage, and New > > Zealand's was unrestricted - but of course it was not

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Lisi writes: > But New Zealand and the Isle of Man (sorry, I have been spelling it > wrongly) both antedate Finland in granting full suffrage, and New > Zealand's was unrestricted - but of course it was not independent. So > we either have to allow both Finland and New Zealand, when New Zealand >

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Lisi Resiz wrote: > oldest continuous democratic government! John Hasler wrote: > Right. It's actually Finland, of course. > Within europe, i bet on San Marino... If you ignore the PFS period. > ...and Iceland. If you ignore being owned by Denmark (and the fact that it is not within

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On Sunday 01 May 2016 19:14:59 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > oldest continuous democratic government! > > John Hasler wrote: > > Right. It's actually Finland, of course. > > Within europe, i bet on San Marino and Iceland. San Marino wins by a long chalk! I forgot

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On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 02:26:18PM +0200, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: > Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300 > schrieb Piyavkin : > > > Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working > > (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) > > Have a nice day! > > > > > >

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Hi, Lisi Resiz wrote: > > oldest continuous democratic government! John Hasler wrote: > Right. It's actually Finland, of course. Within europe, i bet on San Marino and Iceland. (Finland was a colony of Sweden and/or Russia during most of the last few hundred years.) Have a nice day :)

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Lisi writes: > USA, you are a very YOUNG nation. You haven't got the oldest anything > (except Californian Redwoods, which antedate the USA.) Yes, there are > younger nations and peoples - but there are an awful lot of older > ones. For certain definitions of "nation". > I am still reeling

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On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:13:38 Dan Hitt wrote: >> (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which >> our ruling class wanted to tone down?) > > I am speechless!! > > "The earliest May Day celebrations appeared in

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On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:13:38 Dan Hitt wrote: > (And wasn't May day an American idea originally, which > our ruling class wanted to tone down?) I am speechless!! "The earliest May Day celebrations appeared in pre-Christian times, with the Floralia, festival of Flora, the Roman goddess of

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On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Nate writes: >> I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade >> school 40+ years ago. Does that count? > > Sure. As long as you collect no rents and own no capital you can be a > member of the

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Nate writes: > I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade > school 40+ years ago. Does that count? Sure. As long as you collect no rents and own no capital you can be a member of the proletariat. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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* On 2016 01 May 08:23 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Hans Vogelsberger writes: > > Why workers only? There are other humans, too. > > Class struggle. I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade school 40+ years ago. Does that count? ;-) Happy May Day from the workers

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Hans Vogelsberger writes: > Why workers only? There are other humans, too. Class struggle. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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On 1 May 2016 at 13:26, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: > Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300 > schrieb Piyavkin : > > > Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working > > (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) > > Have a nice day! > > > > > >

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Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300 schrieb Piyavkin : > Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working > (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) > Have a nice day! > > > Best regards, > Dmitry Piyavkin > Why workers only? There are other humans, too.

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Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) Have a nice day! Best regards, Dmitry Piyavkin