year-2000 problem already showing up in mirror

1999-10-24 Thread Daniel Barclay
Oh, gross. I just looked at mirror.pl: if( $year < 70 ){ $year += 2000; } else { $year += 1900; } But where exactly is the problem? The "70" in the if statement looks like it is based on the Unix epoch's sta

Re: Year 2000 status of debian

1999-06-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:12:52 +0100, John Lines wrote: > I am having a very hard time trying to get a Debian system installed due > to it not being year 2000 compliant. (as compared to Redhat > (http://www.redhat.com/corp/legal_statement.html#y2k) - whose statement is > actually

Re: Year 2000 status of debian

1999-06-14 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
Wait a while. In six months no-one will care.

Year 2000 status of debian

1999-06-14 Thread John Lines
According to http://www.debian.org/y2k/ about half the packages in the base Debian system are not known to be Year 2000 compliant. While I realise that the probably are, I am having a very hard time trying to get a Debian system installed due to it not being year 2000 compliant. (as compared to

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-30 Thread sjc
n their own way -Steve > Alex > > On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Rick Fadler wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm assuming with all the year 2000 compliance hype that there > > must be a document somewhere describing the year 2000 issues > > related t

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-29 Thread Alexander
u, 23 Jul 1998, Rick Fadler wrote: > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:21:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rick Fadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Year 2000 compliance > Resent-Date: 23 Jul 1998 17:22:49 - > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.or

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 09:17:51PM -0700, Alexander wrote: > Any and all UNIX systems are fully Y2K compliant, as long as the hardware I think this statement is naive. Although the kernel may represent all time values as time_t, you cannot guarantee that all applications do, and since there are ra

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-26 Thread Alexander
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Year 2000 compliance > Resent-Date: 23 Jul 1998 18:04:54 - > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; > > *-Rick Fadler (23 Jul) > | > | Does anyone have any

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Rick Fadler (23 Jul) | | Does anyone have any information on this? | http://www.debian.org/news#19980104 -- Brian Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubsc

Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-23 Thread Rick Fadler
Hi, I'm assuming with all the year 2000 compliance hype that there must be a document somewhere describing the year 2000 issues related to specific Debian releases of linux. Specifically, we have built an embedded system using Debian version 1.3. Being an embedded system, we've strippe

Re: Year 2000

1997-11-04 Thread bewhite
Arran, Although linux may be "year 2000 safe," You also must assure that all application programs are also clean. It much more likely that an application program will will have the "fatal" hidden flaw that will

Re: Year 2000

1997-11-03 Thread Bruce Perens
There is a year-2000 problem we know of that is connected to your PC's BIOS and clock chip. The BIOS and clock chip of many systems store a two-digit year. This is a separate issue from the Linux kernel clock, which is all software. Linux uses a program to read the hardware clock into the sof

Year 2000

1997-11-02 Thread Arran Price
Hi all, Is there anyone out there can give me any information regarding linux or more specifically debian in relation to the Y2k problem? We run a couple of debian boxes in production and my manager has been asked to do an audit on how complient these machines are as far as year 2000. Any

[gnu.misc.discuss,comp.software.year-2000] Re: GNU software Year 2000 Ready?

1997-10-28 Thread Emilio Lopes
Something about Debian GNU/Linux being year-2000-ready, for those interested. -- Emilio C. Lopes <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Start of forwarded message --- From: Duane Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.software.year-2000 Subject: Re: GNU s

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-24 Thread Richard Ayres
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after > Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by > typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be > recompiled. One would hope that the world can

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-24 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Andy Dougherty wrote: > > Groff-1.10 had a couple of problems in some of the macro packages. > [...] > (This may all be corrected in 1.3.1 -- I don't have access to a > 1.3.1 system now to check. I know it's been reported to the groff > maintainer, but I haven't checked whether the groff-1.11 fix

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote: > Not sure if this has been thrashed out before: > > Is Debian (or Linux in general) year 2000 *safe*? I'm not even sure what > that means precisely, but I'm responsible for finding out round here and > wondered if it'

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Andy Kahn
mpiled. One would hope that the world can find something better -> > than POSIX, C, and Unix by 2038. -> -> Ok, the worst thing about the year 2000 problem, is that so few people -> understand it, yet think they do! People panic about things that -> probably won't break (Lin

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Darin Johnson
> than POSIX, C, and Unix by 2038. Ok, the worst thing about the year 2000 problem, is that so few people understand it, yet think they do! People panic about things that probably won't break (Linux and utilities), yet ignore things that are more likely to break (user applications and da

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be recompiled. One would hope that the world can find something better than POSIX, C, and Unix by

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
There is some dispute over whether it's 2038 or later. In any case, one only need define time_t to be 64 bits and it will last until the heat-death of the universe. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debi

Year 2038 problem (was Re: Year 2000 & Debian)

1997-10-22 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:51:07 +1000 Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 08:15:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: >> I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not >> find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to sto

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 08:15:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not > find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to store the century as two > digits. Richard Stallman and FSF have been testing this, too. > &

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to store the century as two digits. Richard Stallman and FSF have been testing this, too. The biggest problem that may happen has to do with the motherboard BIOS and the PC

Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Richard L Shepherd
Not sure if this has been thrashed out before: Is Debian (or Linux in general) year 2000 *safe*? I'm not even sure what that means precisely, but I'm responsible for finding out round here and wondered if it's been discussed on this group. 8<---

Debian and they Year 2000 problem

1997-09-16 Thread John Lines
The Year 2000 problem has been discussed extensively, but when anyone asks about Linux the answer is always 'The kernel is OK up till 2038, other than that it is an application problem' It seems to me that the Debian distribution, by breaking up the applications into a large number of

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Baetzler wrote: > I suppose this would work the same way as setting up any other remote > printer: by creating a set of two spools. SDee the details in the > LPR-HOWTO. Where is the lpr howto? I don't see it in the debian howto package. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILIN

Re: Year 2000

1997-07-19 Thread Bob Clark
Ralph Winslow wrote: > > Syd Alsobrook wrote: > > > > Just a curious question, does anyone know if linux in general and > Debian in > > particular are year 2000 compliant? > > We're OK until 2017 (and since I'll surely have a 64-bit system by > then

Re: Year 2000

1997-07-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
Syd Alsobrook wrote: > > Just a curious question, does anyone know if linux in general and Debian in > particular are year 2000 compliant? We're OK until 2017 (and since I'll surely have a 64-bit system by then, 'til hell freezes over) for 32-bit systems. > > It wo

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread Douglas Bates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Baetzler) writes: > James C. Carr wrote: > : As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, > :the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm > :not entirely sure... > > The Unix timestamp is represented as time_t, which is usuall

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread Thomas Baetzler
James C. Carr wrote: : As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, :the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm :not entirely sure... The Unix timestamp is represented as time_t, which is usually a signed long value. A date is represented a the numb

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread James C. Carr
As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm not entirely sure... Anyhow, I've got a question of my own: Has anyone successfully gotten a filter to use gs on a .ps file AND send it to a networked

Year 2000

1997-07-18 Thread Syd Alsobrook
Just a curious question, does anyone know if linux in general and Debian in particular are year 2000 compliant? It would be a shame if we came down to the wire and had forgotten something Syd http://www.uc.edu/~alsobrsp "How do you know you're having fun

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Sam Ockman wrote: > Message from Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > > is free of year-2000

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-27 Thread Sam Ockman
Message from Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately >

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Bruce Perens
Did anyone test _emacs_ for year-2000 problems? Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Behan Webster
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > > is free of year-2000 problems, and

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately > we do

year-2000 testing

1997-04-25 Thread Bruce Perens
If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately we don't have too many COBOL programs :-) . To do this, you&#