Audacity parameter 'phase_shift' out of range [0 - 30]

2022-04-22 Thread davenull
Hello, While trying to debug Audacity - too much background noise - unusable preferences menus on GTK DE (LXDE) with dark theme, even with dark theme from audacity menu. I launched it from the terminal too see if there is any error and I got this error [AVAudioResampleContext

Re: audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread didier gaumet
Le 17/05/2021 à 13:45, Bob Bernstein a écrit : [...] Much of the focus of the above is setting PulseAudio to launch as a system-wide service, for all users, [...] pulseaudio --daemonize It's not my impression. I agree with the reply of Greg Wooledge: to me, Pulseaudio is automatically starte

Re: audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 mai 21, 08:16:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 07:45:34AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > I can take a hint. It seems to me I have to place the statement > > > > pulseaudio --daemonize > > > > in some user file or other but nowhere can I find in that doc (coulda missed

Re: audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 07:45:34AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I can take a hint. It seems to me I have to place the statement > > pulseaudio --daemonize > > in some user file or other but nowhere can I find in that doc (coulda missed > it; I'm an old guy) a suggestion as to what file to use. I

Re: audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 17 May 2021, didier gaumet wrote: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_linux.html Much of the focus of the above is setting PulseAudio to launch as a system-wide service, for all users, but it goes on to say that if you make that choice, rather

Re: audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, This chapter of the on-line Audacity doc could be of interest to you: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_linux.html

audacity on Buster - qui est 'input?'

2021-05-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
Buster amd64: $ uname -a Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux $ dpkg -l |grep audacity ii audacity 2.2.2-1+b1 amd64fast, cross-platform audio editor ii audacity-data

Audacity: display broken

2020-03-03 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello, After a while, I wanted to edit some audio files with audacity. Unfortunately, it is impossible because the display is broken: The Menus work, but that's about it. The waveform display is never updated, nor are the various meters. I have not found any hint that someone besides

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
Well, I started down the dependency chain and rolling back libasound2 is resulting in a deep and dark hole. I think I shall stop while I only have one non-working package. It crossed my mind to try and rebuild the audacity package which, in all my years of using Debian I've never tried b

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:34:02 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: Hello Nate, >Can I blame it on not being quite awake enough a couple of hours ago? Certainly; I would. :-) >Thanks, Brad. YW. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 14 Nov 07:15 -0600, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 06:31:22 -0600 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Hello Nate, > > >I'm seeing the same thing, however I've been unable to find the versions > >of the packages you list, so I am stuck without a w

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 06:31:22 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: Hello Nate, >I'm seeing the same thing, however I've been unable to find the versions >of the packages you list, so I am stuck without a working Audacity. Look for Debian Snapshot - they'll be on th

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
ble to find the versions of the packages you list, so I am stuck without a working Audacity. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-11 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
a problem with Audacity 2.2.2 and Pulseaudio 12.2-2. > > I can't select pulse neither as recording or playback device. > > I can select "default" on playing device, and it appears in > pavucontrol and I can manage it. > > But audacity doesn't appear in the rec

Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-05 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
Hello. I upgraded a machine to sid. Everything seems to work just fine but I noticed a problem with Audacity 2.2.2 and Pulseaudio 12.2-2. I can't select pulse neither as recording or playback device. I can select "default" on playing device, and it appears in pavucontrol and

audacity bug

2017-08-14 Thread Daniel Chanow
I have debian 8.4 with audacity 2.?2( the latest) and it has given bad sound and then freezed/ crashed with frequent restarts and recteation of not saved files. In the past I have tried to file bugs but the very long lists of very technical questions has been too impossible to find.If not all

Re: standard way of installing audacity documentation on debian stretch, is there a package?

2017-05-28 Thread Brian
On Sun 28 May 2017 at 11:48:35 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: The primary reference here is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=313038 > :) > > Thanks David!! > > In the ubuntu bug tracking system, at least iirc, there's a place you > can click to indicate 'This affects me too'. > > Is

Re: standard way of installing audacity documentation on debian stretch, is there a package?

2017-05-28 Thread Dan Hitt
wrote: > On 28 May 2017 at 14:19, Dan Hitt wrote: >> I installed audacity on my debian 9 (stretch) system. > > [...] > >> There are remote links offered, of course, but i would like the >> software to function as designed, so i assume there must be some >

Re: standard way of installing audacity documentation on debian stretch, is there a package?

2017-05-28 Thread David
On 28 May 2017 at 14:19, Dan Hitt wrote: > I installed audacity on my debian 9 (stretch) system. [...] > There are remote links offered, of course, but i would like the > software to function as designed, so i assume there must be some > package that has the audacity

standard way of installing audacity documentation on debian stretch, is there a package?

2017-05-27 Thread Dan Hitt
I installed audacity on my debian 9 (stretch) system. It has a splash screen that has links on it to local documentation. However, some of the local documentation appears to be missing. So, for example, if i click on "Quick Help", i get an error message: Error when getting infor

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2016-04-27 Thread Cartola
Russell L. Carter pinyon.org> writes: > Bingo! I had changed the uid for my account a while back and > didn't think to have a look at /var/tmp. Now at least the situation > is documented so that it can be found by google and friends. > > Thanks Sven! > Russell Thank you! I've had the same is

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-07-01 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Doug wrote: And, I have a nice 200MHz Tektronix analog scope! <--green But if I don't have to hook it up, fine! Sounds to me, sir, that your motivation to gaze at waveforms may leave a lot to be desired! Either hook up the gosh-darn thing or put it on a UPS truck ad

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-07-01 Thread Doug
On 07/01/2015 11:31 PM, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Joe wrote: ...it could be used if there was nothing better, and it may offer features which the OP 'didn't know he needed'. Speaking of the OP, has he been seen in these here parts since the thread began? I've been wanting t

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-07-01 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Joe wrote: ...it could be used if there was nothing better, and it may offer features which the OP 'didn't know he needed'. Speaking of the OP, has he been seen in these here parts since the thread began? I've been wanting to ask him why he wants to view sound waveforms.

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-07-01 Thread Joe
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 08:27:20 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 01 July 2015 01:28:15 David Wright wrote: > > > > Why do "typical audio files" fail your "sound" check? > > Or are you philosophising? :) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest > > They don't. scilab does

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-07-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
: > > > > > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > > > > > > On Monday 29 June 2015 02:28:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > >

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-30 Thread David Wright
gt; > > On Monday 29 June 2015 02:28:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > > &g

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
rote: > > > > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of cours

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-30 Thread David Wright
> > > > > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > > > > > > > > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of > > > > > software. But its function is more to edit than just t

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
a sound waveform viewer? > > > > > > > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of > > > > software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, > > > > e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to create a pro

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > On Monday 29 June 2015 02:28:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > > > > > I'm aware of audacity, w

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 29 June 2015 02:28:20 Richard Owlett wrote: > Dan Hitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of > > software. But its function is

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-29 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Dan Hitt wrote: I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to create a project, and when you want to exit you have to tell it not to

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-29 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 11 messidor, an CCXXIII, Reco a écrit : > What about ffmpeg + gnuplot approach? > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Create%20a%20Waveform%20Image%20from%20an%20Audio%20Stream FFmpeg (the real one) can plot waves by itself. I would have mentioned it sooner, but the OP seems to be looking f

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 05:24:25PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > Hi, > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of > software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-29 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 05:24:25PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > Hi, > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of > software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, >

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/28/2015 08:24 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to cre

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/28/2015 08:24 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to cre

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Dan Hitt wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to create a project, and when you

Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-28 Thread Frank
On 28/06/15 08:24 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to cre

looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained

2015-06-28 Thread Dan Hitt
Hi, Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer? I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of software. But its function is more to edit than just to view. So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to create a project, and when you want to exit you

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-13 Thread Russell L. Carter
On 06/13/15 10:36, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 17:31 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files. P

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/13/2015 01:36 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 17:31 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store temporary

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-13 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 17:31 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and > the following happens: > > 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store > temporary files. Please enter an a

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-13 Thread Russell L. Carter
On 06/13/15 01:30, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 13 June 2015 05:41:02 Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi! On 06/12/15 19:29, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/12/2015 08:31 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 13 June 2015 05:41:02 Russell L. Carter wrote: > Hi! > > On 06/12/15 19:29, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 06/12/2015 08:31 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and > >> the following

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Russell L. Carter wrote: The googleman doesn't provide any clues. Ideas? hi, did you try to check: the playback device in the preferences/devices menu the temporary files directory in the preferences/directories menu cheers, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSC

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-12 Thread Russell L. Carter
Hi! On 06/12/15 19:29, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/12/2015 08:31 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files. Please ent

Re: audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/12/2015 08:31 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files. Please enter an appropriate directory in the prefer

audacity startup fails stretch amd64

2015-06-12 Thread Russell L. Carter
Hi, I am trying to launch audacity on a stretch amd64 system, and the following happens: 1. I get a popup with text "Audacity could not find a place to store temporary files. Please enter an appropriate directory in the preferences dialog." Click ok, then: 2. An error pop

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:35:16PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > So you could shoot kids in halloween costumes for illegally being on > > your property? > > Only if they've been through your underwear (_very_ > puritanical country). If it was Halloween, it wo

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-11-01 Thread Kent West
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > What would any of us do if confronted by a burgler > in the middle of the night while we were home and woken up from a > sound sleep? Ceratinly a terrifying situation. Calm thinking does > not happen at such times. > Agreed. Even the Bible

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-11-01 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-31, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Thursday 31 October 2013 15:33:25 Bob Proulx wrote: >> Note that I didn't say that I *would* shoot them dead. > > Maybe shoot them just injured ? /Smilet/ > Thierry > Right, he would've just blown their kneecaps out so they couldn't run away while he h

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-10-31 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 31 October 2013 15:33:25 Bob Proulx wrote: > Note that I didn't say that I *would* shoot them dead. Maybe shoot them just injured ? /Smilet/ Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.d

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-10-31 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > So you could shoot kids in halloween costumes for illegally being on > your property? Only if they've been through your underwear (_very_ puritanical country). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-10-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Neal Murphy wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Case 1: I find that someone in my family who lives in my house has > > > rumaged through my underwear drawer. A violation of trust has > > > occurred. I am unhappy and will talk with them and give them a harsh > > > lecture.

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-10-31 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 02:22:40 PM Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:38:12PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Case 1: I find that someone in my family who lives in my house has > > rumaged through my underwear drawer. A violation of trust has > > occurred. I am unhappy and wi

Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:38:12PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Case 1: I find that someone in my family who lives in my house has > rumaged through my underwear drawer. A violation of trust has > occurred. I am unhappy and will talk with them and give them a harsh > lecture. This is not appropria

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-29 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> The "standard" task installs both nfs-common and rpcbind. > > Aha! Apparently the ability to nfs mount in /etc/fstab is the root > cause of the dependency chain that requires nfs-common and therefore > portmapper. At a guess

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:38:12PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > And what about the end result ('user will get root privs')? > > They are different users. A remote user could be anyone. A local > user is someone who is already known and has an account on the system > and who has an

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > The "standard" task installs both nfs-common and rpcbind. Aha! Apparently the ability to nfs mount in /etc/fstab is the root cause of the dependency chain that requires nfs-common and therefore portmapper. At a guess. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why >>> it would be there? >> >> Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, >> though. Running a diskless

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > And what about the end result ('user will get root privs')? They are different users. A remote user could be anyone. A local user is someone who is already known and has an account on the system and who has an established relationship and trust. Case 1: I find that someone in my f

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 01:14:33PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why > > > it would be there? > > > > Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, > > though. Runnin

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why > > it would be there? > > Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, > though. Running a diskless client over NFS would be a curious trick > without NFS suppor

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:45:03AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > And one must be careful of throwing stones. For example Debian does > > > not provide a firewall by default. And it is debatable if it needs > > > one. Many people don't configure one. Many peo

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > And one must be careful of throwing stones. For example Debian does > > not provide a firewall by default. And it is debatable if it needs > > one. Many people don't configure one. Many people do. It all > > depends upon many things about the use case. I do

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:37:02AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + >>> Tom H wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > > Yes, but pfexec is not sudo

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:15:43PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Oh. You mean that HP suddenly transformed to good fairies and stopped > > charging extra for aCC? Or IBM received an encrypted signal from their > > supervisors from Mars and did the same to vacc? And don't even mention >

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:37:02AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + > > Tom H wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, but pfexec is not sudo. And privilege-aware Solaris shells are > >>> de

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: >>> >>> Yes, but pfexec is not sudo. And privilege-aware Solaris shells are >>> definitely not sudo too. >> >> It might not be sudo but it's the same p

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Most of those systems ship very little by their vendors. I have used > > them for many years and almost all of the software that you will use > > on those systems will have been compiled and installed by the local > > admin. IMNHO they are mainly a good solid b

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > > > > Yes, but pfexec is not sudo. And privilege-aware Solaris shells are > > definitely not sudo too. > > It might not be sudo but it's the same principle of privilege escalation. > > sudo

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-26 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:28:57 + > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM, wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:31:55 -0600 >>> Bob Proulx wrote: Sudo has been on HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for many years. It is

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Reco
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 23:17:06 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 01:07 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Passwords stored in a plain text files in a recyclebin (or on a sheet > > of paper under the keyboard). > > Female sysadmins wearing slips of paper on the forehead with > passphrases: http

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 01:34 +0400, Reco wrote: > Please tell that to that Lennart Poeterring guy who invented his own > RealTimeGizmo for his beloved PulseAudio ;) Ok, now I'm able to resist. I love to be marxbrotherish, but with respect to the list, I try to fake, that I don't know who this girl

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Reco
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:10:35 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > In the past I was against sudo, but nowadays I set up a root account > (su) and sudo for my Linux and if I use Ubuntu I usually keep it as is, > IOW just sudo, no root account. Security doesn't suffer from sudo, OTOH > "ich bin schmerzfrei"

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 01:07 +0400, Reco wrote: > Passwords stored in a plain text files in a recyclebin (or on a sheet > of paper under the keyboard). Female sysadmins wearing slips of paper on the forehead with passphrases: http://www.kingmatz.com/Bilder%202007/2009/mk/RIMG0206.JPG -- To UNSUB

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Reco
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:28:57 + Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM, wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:31:55 -0600 > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > >> Sudo has been on > >> HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for many years. It isn't > >> anything new. It is a good worthy to

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Reco
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:21:37 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > recovery...@gmail.com wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > This is not entirely correct. Sudo is considered third-party software > > in HP-UX (HP merely builds it and doesn't install by default), AIX (not > > provided by IBM and therefore not sup

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
John Hasler wrote: > Doug writes: > > I'm not sure how you limit the superuser ability. > > By configuring exactly which commands each user is permitted to execute. Perhaps an example sudoers configuration would help people: User_Alias HOSTMASTERS = trent Host_Alias DNSSERVERS = someh

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:31:55 -0600 > Bob Proulx wrote: >> Sudo has been on >> HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for many years. It isn't >> anything new. It is a good worthy tool. > > This is not entirely correct. Sudo is considered third-par

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
recovery...@gmail.com wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Sudo has been on HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for > > many years. It isn't anything new. It is a good worthy tool. > > This is not entirely correct. Sudo is considered third-party software > in HP-UX (HP merely builds it and doesn

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
This seems to be an unintended initiated thread by me :D. In the past I was against sudo, but nowadays I set up a root account (su) and sudo for my Linux and if I use Ubuntu I usually keep it as is, IOW just sudo, no root account. Security doesn't suffer from sudo, OTOH "ich bin schmerzfrei" as we

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-25 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > I'm not sure how you limit the superuser ability. By configuring exactly which commands each user is permitted to execute. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-25 Thread Doug
On 10/25/2013 02:31 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Doug wrote: >> I know Debian is different, > > Most of us say that in a good way. :-) > >> but the distro I use and the man page for sudo, I believe, expects >> there to be a root password, that sudo will expect when invoked. I first encountered sudo

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-25 Thread recoverym4n
Hi. On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:31:55 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Sudo has been on > HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for many years. It isn't > anything new. It is a good worthy tool. This is not entirely correct. Sudo is considered third-party software in HP-UX (HP merely builds it and d

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Doug wrote: > I know Debian is different, Most of us say that in a good way. :-) > but the distro I use and the man page for sudo, I believe, expects > there to be a root password, that sudo will expect when invoked. The most normal and traditional use of sudo is that sudo will expect the user'

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:11:51PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > I don't understand how a user whithout the root password, and only > > his own password could use sudo, which seems to be how Debian is set > > up. > > > Not just Debian. > And it's by using the "NOPASSWD" option (with, as B

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/13 13:03, Doug wrote: > On 10/24/2013 09:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: >> Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> Reading the list for a while, I won the impression that Debian by >>> default now comes with sudo enabled. >> >> It is one of the two possible choices that can be made during the >> installation.

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > The main purpose of sudo, as I understand it, is to prevent a user > from opening up su and then leaving it open--sudo will close after a > selected interval of non use. The main purpose of sudo is to make it possible to give some users restricted access to some commands that would

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Doug
On 10/24/2013 09:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Reading the list for a while, I won the impression that Debian by >> default now comes with sudo enabled. > > It is one of the two possible choices that can be made during the > installation. There isn't a default. > > The user e

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Reading the list for a while, I won the impression that Debian by > default now comes with sudo enabled. It is one of the two possible choices that can be made during the installation. There isn't a default. The user either chooses to enter a root password and also a user a

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 17:31 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > libavformat.so.52 > http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/amd64/libavformat53/filelist Debian http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/libavformat53 Arch Linux $ pacman

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 17:31 +0200, François Patte wrote: > OK! BUT audacity requires a libavformat.so.52 file to export a file in > wma and aac format. Where can I find such a file?? > > I can see (google search) many people with the same problem and no > answer... Please sent

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Reco
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:35:49AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/10/13 00:27, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:56:01PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> should have been:- > >> $ echo "alias s='su -c"'" >> ~/.bash_aliases;. .bashrc > > > > This works better as: > >

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/13 00:27, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:56:01PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> should have been:- >> $ echo "alias s='su -c"'" >> ~/.bash_aliases;. .bashrc > > This works better as: > > function s() { > su -l root -c "$*" > } > export -f s > > Saves an extra " >

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:56:01PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > should have been:- > $ echo "alias s='su -c"'" >> ~/.bash_aliases;. .bashrc This works better as: function s() { su -l root -c "$*" } export -f s Saves an extra " Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: OT: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/13 00:08, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:56 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> alias s='su -c "' > > You still need a wrapper to handle quotation marks. > > command_foo --option_bar "string abc" > > by your alias > > s command_foo --option_bar \"string abc\"" > > imagine

Re: audacity export wma format[1 more question]

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/13 00:00, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> >> I don't do default[*1] installs. Certainly "expert" install mode gives a >> choice (choices are good) - regardless of whether people use sudo or not >> root *should* have a different password to any o

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