Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-29 Thread Francisco M Neto
Hello! On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 18:56 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I haven't seen anything on this topic lately > > I noticed when I ran apt-get upgrade that synaptic was updated. > > Does this mean it is now generally available, or just that my manual > install updated? Yes. As I men

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-28 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/15/2019 01:12 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:32:47 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? Removal occurred because of otherwise unresolvabl

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-27 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 4/14/19 10:24 PM, Kieran Smyth wrote: Hi, For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. When i open up a terminal and try to re-install it, i get the following- # apt update Hit:1 http://f

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Keith Bainbridge (2019-04-27 10:56:31) > On 15/4/19 5:32 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > Good afternoon All > > > > > > I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. > > > > > > How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? > > > > > > > > Keith Bai

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-27 Thread Frank
Op 27-04-19 om 10:56 schreef Keith Bainbridge: I haven't seen anything on this topic lately I noticed when I ran apt-get upgrade that synaptic was updated. Does this mean it is now generally available, or just that my manual install updated? It's back: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/synaptic

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-27 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 15/4/19 5:32 pm, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good afternoon All I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 On 15/4/19 3:24 pm, Kieran Smyth wrote: F

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 15/4/19 8:59 pm, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:12:34 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, So if I don't install Wayland, I should not loose synaptic - for those odd times I need it to help me find something? That /would/ have been the case, yes. Not so now; Synaptic

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 13:10 -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: > Thanks everyone for all the responses. The package gnome-packagekit > seems like a good alternative for now, but ultimately I think > reverting to stable rather than testing may be the way forward for me. > > Although i'm going to explore ot

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:13:37 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >As end users, we don't know how the synaptic situation is going to play >out. It may be removed permanently, or the bug that caused its removal Look up the bug report. Sure, it's not possible to say for definite what will ha

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:45:07AM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > > Watch again systemd: while the default in Debian, it is perfectly > > possible to install a Debian system without it [...] > I've always assumed that there are Developers who, like us, > avoid various types of software, like

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Kieran Smyth
Thanks everyone for all the responses. The package gnome-packagekit seems like a good alternative for now, but ultimately I think reverting to stable rather than testing may be the way forward for me. Although i'm going to explore other desktop environments, too. Not sure i'll be able to move away

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 13:31:04 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200,

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Francisco M Neto
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 11:06 +0100, Dominic Knight wrote: > The good news is that someone has filed a patch that works around these > issues with Wayland. So it should be back for other GUI users with a > failure message for Wayland users once it is passed through > experimental (in time for Buster

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote: Debian project, like the most distributions, ships GNOME as a primary/default Desktop Envirionment. Therefore one can expect that this GNOME's "feature"-to-be will be included in Debian sooner or later, and once done the "feature" can affect o

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:18:20AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > I get info on what is in buster from this page > > https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster > > Would it be worth updating this page so others know to use > gnome-packagekit instead, even if this information is elsewhere. As end users, we

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:52:37PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > I'm not a part of Debian project, I'm just a user. Then you are part, somehow. The one thing I appreciate about the Debian project is precisely that it doesn't treat their users as a merchandise (something less and less common these d

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:31:04PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > A short-term solution at best, although I'll avoid Wayland in buster. > > > > > > Why do you think it is a short term solution? > > > > Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream said their word loud and clear, and that >

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This was admi

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:12:34 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >So if I don't install Wayland, I should not loose synaptic - for those >odd times I need it to help me find something? That /would/ have been the case, yes. Not so now; Synaptic is no longer available in testing. You ca

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 15/4/19 6:12 pm, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:32:47 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? Removal occurred because of otherwise unresolvable

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Dominic Knight
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 01:24 -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: > Hi, > > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three > weeks ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop > environment. > > When i open up a terminal and try to re-install it, i get the > following- >

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: >> For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks >> ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. > > Synaptic was removed fro

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Paul Sutton
On 15/04/2019 09:15, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> >> [...] >> Or just ditch Wayland (/me ru

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > Or just ditch Wayland (/me runs for cover ;-) > > This was admittedl

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:32:47 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. >How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? Removal occurred because of otherwise unresolvable conflicts. In this case, with Wayland. OP

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Or just ditch Wayland (/me runs for cover ;-) This was admittedly a bit provocative -- no offense intended. > A short-term solution at best, although I'll avoid

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:18:20AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > Thanks for your reply, as, on a related note, this helps me with the > basic presentation that I an working on. I was aware that synaptic is > now removed, but I wasn't aware what it it had been replaced with Not 'replace

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good afternoon All I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself. How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal? Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 On 15/4/19 3:24 pm, Kieran Smyth wrote: For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalle

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:03:47AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: > > > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks > > > ago. I am usi

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread Paul Sutton
On 15/04/2019 07:03, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: >> For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks >> ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. > > Synaptic was removed fro

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:03:47AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: > > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks > > ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. > > Syna

Re: Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote: > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks > ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. Synaptic was removed from testing two weeks ago, see #818366. > I lik

Cannot re-install synaptic on Buster.

2019-04-14 Thread Kieran Smyth
Hi, For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment. When i open up a terminal and try to re-install it, i get the following- # apt update Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster InRelease Hi