Debian manuals.

2024-10-06 Thread knomadness
Is there a paper book type of manual that I can get of Debian? Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 15:50:59 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Run the "id" command with no arguments to see your current group > > memberships. You'll see that "sudo" is not one of them. > > I found that if I then tried "id rprice" I could see "sudo". Y

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL The %sudo line in /etc/sudoers has no effect. Is there some other incantation needed in /etc/sudoers ? You need to log out and back in, or at least start a new authent

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 13:34:01 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I also tried to use sudo to call synaptic and failed: > >rprice@maria ~ sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic >[sudo] password for rprice: >rprice is not in the sudoers file. > > I see in /etc/sudoers > ># Allow members of group sudo

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, Joe wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: ... As with Debian 11, a synaptic popup asks for the super user password, but after entering root password I get "Authentification failure". This worked on Debian 11. One test to try is

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread tomas
On Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 11:24:03AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:24 +0100 > Joe wrote: > > Hello Joe, > > >My graphical menu calls synaptic-pkexec, and it definitely wants the > > As does mine. > > >root password, and it says so explicitly. > > Here, I get a different r

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Joe
Admittedly, I'm on testing, but even when I was using testing before > Debian 12 (Bookworm) was released, I had the same results. That is, I > *had* to enter the user password. > I have the same on bookworm and sid: "Authentication as the super-user is required to perform this

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Brad Rogers
ssword. In fact, using the root password fails (with the exact same details as Roger described), I *must* use the user password. Strange. Admittedly, I'm on testing, but even when I was using testing before Debian 12 (Bookworm) was released, I had the same results. That is, I *had* to ent

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > I installed Debian 12 and defined a user. Now I would like to > install other packages as that user. As with Debian 11, a synaptic > popup asks for the super user password, but after entering root > password I get "

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >I click on "details" but all I see is "Action: >com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic". PolicyKit is installed: you must use the user's password. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / )

Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 6 Oct 2024 10:47 +0200, from ro...@rogerprice.org (Roger Price): > I installed Debian 12 and defined a user. Now I would like to install other > packages as that user. As with Debian 11, a synaptic popup asks for the > super user password, but after entering root passw

Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root

2024-10-06 Thread Roger Price
I installed Debian 12 and defined a user. Now I would like to install other packages as that user. As with Debian 11, a synaptic popup asks for the super user password, but after entering root password I get "Authentification failure". This worked on Debian 11. I click on "d

Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240901)

2024-10-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. Codes of Conduct * The list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to both the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/09/2024 22:04, George at Clug wrote: To get the earlier installations to discover the later installed installations, I ran grub-mkconfig I have never tried it, but my impression is that in the case of UEFI boot, rEFInd may detect installed OSes dynamically without explicit configurati

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Thanks for your report! Le 29/09/2024, George at Clug a écrit: > # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > https://averagelinuxuser.com/dual-boot-arch-linux-with-linux/ Alternatively, you could have used a simple 'update-grub' because: $ cat $(which update-grub) #!/bin/sh set -e exec grub-

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread eben
On 9/28/24 13:48, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren&#

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 12:48:41PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! > > > 32 bit Debian 9.

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. Having

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! > 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. > But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. > Having a low data cap, I went to

Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ]. This morn

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-28 Thread George at Clug
testing I created a KVM VM using Virt-Manager. I added up to five virtual disk drives to the VM (later I hope to add more). So far I have installed three separate Debian Bookworm installations, each with a different Desktop Environment (Gnome, XFCE, KDE). In each case (e.g. installation) I install

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/09/2024 18:53, George at Clug wrote: 3) I am not confident that constant switching between display manager, e.g. LightDM, SLiM, XDM, GDM, SDDM, KDM, Ly will not cause issues. Besides the frustration of changing the configuration each time you want to jump into another DE. Is it really n

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/26/2024 09:42 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 23 Sep 2024 at 06:31:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: A primary deficiency of Debian documentation is lack of indexes [despite having file titles of form index.html ]. [q.v. https://differencesfinder.com/index-vs-table-of-contents-key

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread George at Clug
ug wrote: > > > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > > > > > Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Display managers allow to > > > > select session type before logi

Re?? Re?? Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread YOYO
Hi Max Nikulin, Thank you for your suggestions. I haven't got any conclusive evidence yet to prove that Debian had already stopped running or not. All I know is just that the screen of the virtual machine went black and the virtual machine didn't response to ACPI shutdown signal. I

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-26 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Sep 2024 at 06:31:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > A primary deficiency of Debian documentation is lack of indexes > [despite having file titles of form index.html ]. > [q.v. > https://differencesfinder.com/index-vs-table-of-contents-key-differences-explained/ > ] AIU

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread David Wright
On Thu 26 Sep 2024 at 09:52:18 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:19:26 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > > On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > > > An other example would be to boot

Re: Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/09/2024 21:36, YOYO wrote: The Debian 12 is running in VirtulBox 7.0.20. And I only assigned 2048 MB RAM to it. [...] All I can do is to fouce power-off and re-start it, just to found all running tasks gone. Have you read logs from the previous boot ("journalctl -b -1" as r

Re?? Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread YOYO
Hi, Well it's in VitrualBox legacy BIOS mode. And according to Alexander's  suggestions, this may caused by VirtualBox instead of Debain. Thank you for your reply. Best Regards Richard.    -- Origin -- From:

Re?? Re?? Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread YOYO
://www.virtualbox.org/manual/topics/Introduction.html#intro-save-machine-state -- With kindest regards, Alexander. Debian - The universal operating system https://www.debian.org

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
provided in Debian only allows me to Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). Is there any way to Suspend to Disk (STD, or S4 Mode in ACPI) in Debian? Thank you for your replies in advance. Best Regards, Richard Do you have a swap partition? It has to be sufficient in

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread didier gaumet
Le 26/09/2024 à 11:51, YOYO a écrit : Hello everyone, Recently, I need to cut off power supply with all my running tasks saved. But it seems that the hibernate mode provided in Debian only allows me to Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). Is there any way to Suspend to Disk (STD, or S4 Mode

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Joe
that the hibernate mode provided in Debian > >> only allows me to Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). > >> Is there any way to Suspend to Disk (STD, or S4 Mode in ACPI) in > >> Debian? Thank you for your replies in advance. > >> > > Do you h

Re: Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.09.2024 19:36, YOYO wrote: Hi Alexander, Eben, and everyone in list, Thank you for your replies. The Debian 12 is running in VirtulBox 7.0.20. And I only assigned 2048 MB RAM to it. I'm pretty sure that I have setup a big enough SWAP of around 8 GB when installing Debian 12. When I

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024, 9:23 AM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 26.09.2024 14:51, YOYO wrote: > > Hello everyone, > Recently, I need to cut off power supply with all my running tasks saved. > But it seems that the hibernate mode provided in Debian only allows me to > Suspend

Re?? Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread YOYO
Hi Alexander, Eben, and everyone in list, Thank you for your replies. The Debian 12 is running in VirtulBox 7.0.20. And I only assigned 2048 MB RAM to it. I'm pretty sure that I have setup a big enough SWAP of around 8 GB when installing Debian 12. When I click "Sleep" button in

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread eben
On 9/26/24 07:04, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 26.09.2024 14:51, YOYO wrote: Hello everyone, Recently, I need to cut off power supply with all my running tasks saved. But it seems that the hibernate mode provided in Debian only allows me to Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). Is there

Re: Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.09.2024 14:51, YOYO wrote: Hello everyone, Recently, I need to cut off power supply with all my running tasks saved. But it seems that the hibernate mode provided in Debian only allows me to Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). Is there any way to Suspend to Disk (STD, or S4 Mode in

Is there any way to STD in Debian?

2024-09-26 Thread YOYO
Hello everyone, Recently, I need to cut off power supply with all my running tasks saved. But it seems that the hibernate mode provided in Debian only allows me to  Suspend to Ram(STR, or S3 mode in ACPI). Is there any way to Suspend to Disk (STD, or S4 Mode in ACPI) in Debian? Thank you for your

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread Joe
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:19:26 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > My experiences - George. > > On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > &

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/09/2024 04:19, George at Clug wrote: Grub did not find other existing Linux distributions. Found Windows, but not other linux distributions. The following has been discussed on debian-user: <https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#grub

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread George at Clug
My experiences - George. On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian > > Mate, Debian XFCE. > > What issues you have faced trying to ins

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE (was: Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience)

2024-09-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. What issues you have faced trying to install multiple desktop environment to the same Debian installation? Display managers allow to select session type

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-24 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 24-09-2024 at 19:40 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/24/2024 03:42 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: > > On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> *A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot" > >> system. D

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-24 Thread Joe
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 04:40:10 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/24/2024 03:42 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: > > On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> *A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or > >> "multi-boot" system. De

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/24/2024 03:42 AM, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote: *A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot" system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two. I have never heard of such a distinction. Could you

Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-24 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-09-23, Richard Owlett wrote: > *A* current question is how to install a "dual-boot" or "multi-boot" > system. Debian users make a strong distinction between the two. I have never heard of such a distinction. Could you provide your sources ?

Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience

2024-09-23 Thread Richard Owlett
at he was clinically ADHD. After only a few weeks I thought I was "looking in a mirror". Referral to a psychologist resulted in receiving a tentative diagnosis of being ADHD myself (didn't meet all criteria due to age). I do hyper-focus and can be easily distracted. A primary defic

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-22 Thread David Wright
(-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > > > > > available as a single file. > > > > > > > > > > I need it available when the network is not. > > > > > &

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/19/2024 09:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. IF you have *already* installed Debian, the individual HTML files and compressed copies of the PDF

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/20/2024 10:57 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" avai

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > > > available as

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. It would be convenient if a copy of

Re: Brightness Control Hotkeys not working on Debian 12, Lenovo IdeaPad3

2024-09-20 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
First thing is to check if any events are produced by the keys in question. Try the 'xev' program from package 'x11-utils'. Regards, Jörg.

Brightness Control Hotkeys not working on Debian 12, Lenovo IdeaPad3

2024-09-19 Thread John Kerr Anderson
Dear Debian Users: I recently got a Lenovo IdeaPad3 with an Intel i5 1135G7 CPU with Iris XE graphics. I can adjust the screen brightness by manually sliding the controls in the quick settings at the top of the screen, but the hotkeys on the keyboard do not work to adjust the screen brightness

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > available as a single file. > > I need it available when the network is not. > > It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread DdB
Am 19.09.2024 um 16:16 schrieb Richard Owlett: > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available > as a single file How about doing your homework? > perplexity.ai: > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide&

Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread Richard Owlett
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing from DVD1 were available. TIA

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-16 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Sep 2024 at 12:08:29 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 7:59 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debi

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-15 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 7:59 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: > > [...] > > > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? > > Was in the original post: "This is to build some ancient software."

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote: [...] > Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian? Was in the original post: "This is to build some ancient software." (I've been in a similar situation myself) Cheers -- t signature.as

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Christian Groessler
Hi Tim, On 9/14/24 6:32 PM, Tim Woodall wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a moun

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. And, of course, as soon as I sent

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
to Debian around that time so I'm likely not to have had any backups for potato anyway although I did at least boot it at that time. And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x faster than it would

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): >> Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I >> need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. > > And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a pot

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 04:15:46PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > > The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too > > modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates > > were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian ar

Re: Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Tim Woodall wrote: Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. I have no idea if debootstrap supports this, I haven't tried (yet), I was hoping there was somewhere I coul

Really ancient debian images? (potato or older)

2024-09-14 Thread Tim Woodall
Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image. I have no idea if debootstrap supports this, I haven't tried (yet), I was hoping there was somewhere I could download an image. This is to build so

Printer recommendations for Debian (was: Just a simple question)

2024-09-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
you're at the mercy of Brother providing the drivers which work for your printer&computer and those deb packages typically aren't as nicely integrated into your Debian system as if they'd been packaged by Debian. E.g. do they provide armhf builds? Are they for Ubuntu? Debian? Sta

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2024 14:53, Thomas Schmitt wrote: i wrote: I let xorriso-dd-target use bs=1M oflag=dsync Max Nikulin wrote: May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure block size is much larger? [...] My concern is wearing, Is there evidence that sync size a sma

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2024 14:53, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Jeff wrote: I've run into this situation (more than once)... `dd` fails to write a bootable image with a block size of 1M. But using a block size of 512 results in a bootable image. It used to happen regularly on arm dev boards, like BeagleBoards and Cu

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I let xorriso-dd-target use > >bs=1M oflag=dsync Max Nikulin wrote: > May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure > block size is much larger? [...] My concern is wearing, Is there evidence that sync size a smaller than such an internal size i

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 10:51 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 05/09/2024 16:25, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > I let xorriso-dd-target use > >bs=1M oflag=dsync > > May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash > erasure block size is much larger? I have seen claims that it can be

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/09/2024 16:25, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I let xorriso-dd-target use bs=1M oflag=dsync May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure block size is much larger? I have seen claims that it can be e.g. 12M

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-05 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On September 4, 2024 5:18:53 PM CDT, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >> I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want >> to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feel

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-05 Thread ael
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). You seem to

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 11:25:33AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > > dd. You are going to write each block exactly once, then plop the medium > > out. So whithout, it'll take you 10 sec,

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > dd. You are going to write each block exactly once, then plop the medium > out. So whithout, it'll take you 10 sec, with it'll take you as much. But > it's more transparent with, because with

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 08:31:09PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > > dd [...] > It's a waste of time but if you make it happy you do you. Please

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:25AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Currently I buy them at a brick-and-mortar store in my city [...] And, oh, by default they come empty or with pre-installed Ubuntu. You can order them with Windows, but this costs extra (as it should be). Cheers -- t s

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 10:18:53PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 00:11, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-09-02 at 12:51, Lee wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: MS-Windows can eject a stick ? [...] (Sorry i could not refrain from this nonsense :)) but it isn't nonsense. Welcome to the world of Windowz, where one 'ejects

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:49:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of > a USB flash drive, as being

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
For inexpensive, low-mileage, office-quality machines (laptop & desktop) try blairtech.com. You'll get a W10 or W11 machine.

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:47 Charles Curley ... What did you replace the H&R Block program with? Free TaxUSA, recommended by my lawyer son. it's free, but I paid extra (still less that H&R) for some extra features. It worked great for 2023, I will use it again for 2024. Note I've been audited t

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:47:25 -04 Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 > > Tom Browder wrote: > > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > > Windows entirely some months a

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > Windows entirely some months ago when I found a decent, modern > replacement for Microsoft Word and for the

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). I suggest a

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). > If you&#

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Tom Browder wrote on 05/09/2024 at 00:04:33+0200: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I > want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu > is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). > > I am torn wi

Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the problems I see with dual

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
> Before you begin, if you haven't already done, you must import the Debian > public keys. You can download the keys from the authenticity verification > page: https://www.debian.org/CD/verify once done, then imports the keys with > the command: > > gpg --import key-9880

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Franco Martelli
FAQ, so that i had to change the text for a more unstructured presentation. (This does not have to be a disadvantage. But now i have two versions which i need to maintain until a decision is made at debian-cd.) Interested people are invited to proof-read it, but please make only cosmetic changes

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
reasons to avoid it in the particular use cases in check_debian_iso. So i keep it as is and hope that the old tests are not invalidated by the other changes. shellcheck on Debian 12 also complains about SC2197 (fgrep) and SC2003 (expr), which are normal for an old script. They are not really w

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 12:57:52 +, David wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread David
On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > ^---^ SC2086 (info): Double quote to prevent

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
run. (The $-sign is shown as example of the shell prompt, which might look different on your system.): {{{ $ grep ' debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso$' SHA512SUMS | sha512sum -c - debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso: OK }}} Another paragraph I now sent a proposal to debian...@lists

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
/www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify I wrote: > > until a decision is made at debian-cd. > Please, drop a note here in the case of some progress. I now sent a proposal to debian...@lists.debian.org : https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2024/09/msg00011.html Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread Max Nikulin
t covered in <https://wiki.debian.org/HelpOnLists>. I assume you were not trying to create <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide#FAQ_sections> FAQ sections. until a decision is made at debian-cd. Please, drop a note here in the case of some progress.

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread eben
On 9/3/24 01:07, David Wright wrote: Well, I might expect you to use a command something like: # dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/stdout count=N | sha512sum This is the default for dd, so you don't have to specify it. I mean, it doesn't hurt i

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