Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:31:35 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And this is windows 10 HOME EDITION, so there is no place to "run as > admin" in the start menu's. > It can't join a domain, but otherwise there's not much difference in versions. > > Anyway, in Home Edition of W10, how the heck do

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:09:16 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm also well pleased that I'm not being chastised for winders here, > thank you very much for that. On the whole, Debian is for grown-ups, not the Linux nutters. I've earned a fair bit of money from Windows in the past, and I still

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. > > And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a > whole, has lots of names in the

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread john doe
On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings all; >>> >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. >>> It sure wants to hook up to all the

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 03:55:03 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 > minutes. Very definitely not right. Maybe it feels outnumbered... > > And I have been to that

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > > are secured. > >

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-08 08:55, Gene Heskett wrote: That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a whole, has lots of names in the menu

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 02:16:29 am mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows icon

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > are secured. > Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at >

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:16:29AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Greetings all; > > > >First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > >Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett usually bottom left corner click windows icon click the settings that looks like a cog select Ethernet / Change adapter

Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which are secured. Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at least a hundred miles in any direction from my 10-20 in North Central

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread deloptes
Johann Spies wrote: > I had the same experience.  What solved it for me was to edit > /etc/default/timidity so that timidity does not run as daemon. > > That freed my audio-devices. Me too, but the question is how we make timidity work with alsa or pulse, without blocking alsa. I would like to

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 26/06/18 07:00 AM, Kent West wrote: This morning I removed "timidity" from the "audio" group, and rebooted. All seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - don't really know what it is). I do notice that a "ps ax | grep timidity" does not return anything. Try grep

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Curt
On 2018-06-26, Kent West wrote: >> > This morning I removed "timidity" from the "audio" group, and rebooted. All > seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - don't > really know what it is). I do notice that a "ps ax | grep timidity" does > not return anything. > Seems

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Johann Spies
On 26 June 2018 at 16:00, Kent West wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Borden Rhodes > wrote: >> >> > In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo >> > kill >> >> Yessir. The timidity update on 19 June messed up my sound, too. After >> a frustrating few hours of

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:00:16 -0500 Kent West wrote: Hello Kent, >seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - >don't really know what it is). A MIDI/MOD file player. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo > kill > > timidity", and immediately my Volume control on the pane of KDE's Plasma > > desktop changed, and the volume control slider produced test clicks. I > >

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
> In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo kill > timidity", and immediately my Volume control on the pane of KDE's Plasma > desktop changed, and the volume control slider produced test clicks. I > tried purging timidity, but it seems to want to take half of KDE with

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread deloptes
Kent West wrote: > When I run "aplay -L | grep default", for root I get: > > default:CARD=PCH > sysdefault:CARD=PCH > > For a normal user I get: > > default > sysdefault:CARD=PCH on my stretch box I run aplay -L | grep default default sysdefault:CARD=PCH so it does not seem to be user/root

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
Got it! (Partially. Will finish getting it tomorrow, maybe.) >From https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517726: Found the issue with great support. > > Code: > > echo autospawn = no >> ~/.pulse/client.conf > > killall pulseaudio > > LANG=C pulseaudio - > ~/pulseverbose.log 2>&1

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
I've spent two days on this, and have tried everything I can find and think of. Very frustrating. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no >> sound for a

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Kent West wrote: > In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no sound > for a normal user. > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: >> >>> >>> > So audio works for

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no sound for a normal user. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> >> > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being added

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being >>> added >>> > to the "audio" group). >> >> I just ran "cat syslog | grep alsa" and got this: systemd-udevd[413]: Process '/usr/sbin/alsactl -E HOME=/run/alsa restore

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Brian wrote: > >> On Mon 25 Jun 2018 at 09:58:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: >> >> >> > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being >> added >> > to the "audio" group). >> >> > > In

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
s, but still have no audio when I log > into > > X as a normal user (or at least as my normal user; now that I think about > > it, I'll try as a different normal user as soon as I get this email sent > > off). > > > > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the aud

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Brian
now that I think about > it, I'll try as a different normal user as soon as I get this email sent > off). > > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel > shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal > user. I added

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
ferent normal user > as soon as I get this email sent off). > I tried a different user, and that user also has no audio. > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel > shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal >

Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
n both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal user. I added my user to the "audio" group and logged out/in and tried again; no change. I then Ctrl-Alt-F1'd to TT1, logged in as root, &quo

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, songbird wrote: > >> i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch >> and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at >> all and it just works. > > I tried the "no setting in .muttrc" and that did the trick. > > Which strikes me as sorta weird, but

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, songbird wrote: i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at all and it just works. I tried the "no setting in .muttrc" and that did the trick. Which strikes me as sorta weird, but then, with so much weirdness around

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote: > Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell > working. Currently I have in .muttrc: > > set ispell="ispell --mode=email" > > This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high > spirits that I tried to send off deliberately misspelled emails. > Alas

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, David Wright wrote: According to my key bindings, you should press i when in the compose menu [...] Yes, my 'help' there also shows i associated with ispell. But pressing i only causes the screen to blip very momentarily without showing any ispell activity and then

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Apr 2017 at 19:47:49 (-0400), Bob Bernstein wrote: > Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell working. > Currently I have in .muttrc: > > set ispell="ispell --mode=email" > > This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high spirits > that I tried to send off

OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell working. Currently I have in .muttrc: set ispell="ispell --mode=email" This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high spirits that I tried to send off deliberately misspelled emails. Alas and alack. these arrived at their

Re: Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 at 00:25, The Wanderer <wande...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2016-09-11 at 11:13, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the > > equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed > >

Re: Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-09-11 at 11:13, Mark Fletcher wrote: > So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the > equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed > dependencies. My problem is I can't do anything with the created > package -- I obviously c

Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-11 Thread Mark Fletcher
that it could remove them, and hence what to do to resolve the dependencies. So, this time, I want to avoid that, and I had the idea to create a dummy package that has all the dependencies that Danger From The Deep needs. Then, I can install that package and have aptitude install the missing dependencies

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-15, Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-15, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >>> >>> L'arroseuse arrosée. >> >> >> This is, or was, dead. And it was part of an email about the main part of >> the >> thread. By the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-15, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >> >> L'arroseuse arrosée. > > > This is, or was, dead. And it was part of an email about the main part of > the > thread. You violated the CoC while accusing him of violating the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 15 June 2016 08:41:25 Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-12, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It would be a lot easier if you didn't keep sending me personal copies. > > If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when you > did not ask for it, do it privately. >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It would be a lot easier if you didn't keep sending me personal copies. > If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when you did not ask for it, do it privately. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 09:06:14PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: [...] > Hey tomas! You are always welcome! > There is no issue in here for your commests. Just take this as my personal opinion. Others may disagree. In any case thank you very

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-14 Thread cbannister
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit : > > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved > > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply > > As I already explained twice, a

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:17 AM Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > > > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a > > different action when it is a mailing-list and when it is not > > is not an acceptable solution. > > Why not? Don't

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 June 2016 12:39:31 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 13 June 2016 17:36:53 Nicolas George wrote: > > Solution 2: A makes the moderate punctual effort to configure the > > MUA to set the header correctly and directly reaps the benefits. > > > > Stated like that, it is pretty much a

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a > different action when it is a mailing-list and when it is not > is not an acceptable solution. Why not? Don't you know when you are corresponding on a mailing list or not? You only need to switch

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 17:36:53 Nicolas George wrote: > Solution 2: A makes the moderate punctual effort to configure the MUA to > set the header correctly and directly reaps the benefits. > > Stated like that, it is pretty much a no-brainer. Except that you are continuing to refuse to explain

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit : > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a different action when it is a mailing-list and

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : >> I expect you to conform to the CoC and not continue to reply to me >> personally. > > Nobody can be expected to remember the personal preferences of each > mailing-list member, nor the subscription

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 15:17:19 Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal > > preferences, it is part of the CoC: > > And the mail headers state differently. Given contradictory directives, I >

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal preferences, it > is part of the CoC: And the mail headers state differently. Given contradictory directives, I explained in my previous mail why the only sane solution is to

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:34:06PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > On 2016년 6월 13일 오후 8시 52분 49초 GMT+09:00, Lisi Reisz > wrote: > >On Monday 13 June 2016 10:57:05 Nicolas George wrote: > >> [...] > >"When replying to

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 10:57:05 Nicolas George wrote: > This time only, as a particular courtesy, I have edited manually the list > of recipients to adhere to your personal preferences. I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal preferences, it is part of the CoC: "When

Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > I expect you to conform to the CoC and not continue to reply to me personally. Nobody can be expected to remember the personal preferences of each mailing-list member, nor the subscription status of all contributors, and more importantly

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 01:31:10 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another > > q, nor a ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. > > So you

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:19:27 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the > > individual. I was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly > > unsuccessfully. > > You replied to my

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the individual. > I > was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly unsuccessfully. You replied to my message, quoted it and did not include any explanation, what did

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:10:13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of > > complicated methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in > > Konsole-Trinity! > > My message was

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving only > that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another q, nor a > ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. So you opened a terminal and typed: $ q and all hell let loose??

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of complicated > methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in Konsole-Trinity! My message was about the font selection in XTerm (and most Xt-based applications),

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:15:08 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and > > > an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good > > > idea: it gives

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Bob Holtzman
> xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a rather > obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + right-drag). Works like a charm except that the changes aren't persistent. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or conquer Mt. Everest

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:43:53 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? > > > > That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. > > How would I know what it is "in fact" on your

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. How would I know what it is "in fact" on your system :-? It isn't Nano here:

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > > Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it > > gives anti-aliasing and the choice of fonts nowadays is slightly larger. > > > >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:45:51 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > Xft name instead of -fn / font for

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:55:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even > > as I gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to > > remove. If I cannot control it, it will NEVER

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Lange
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:19:49 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > > > So, it has emasculated my system,

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are > > gone, > > What's wrong with MC's editor running in

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Curt a écrit : > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources It is a bit more complicated than that. ~/.Xresources is loaded into the resources database of the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> You did 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' to reread the file after making the >> changes? > > No, it assumed it was read when needed. Funny. > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even as I > gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to remove. If I > cannot control it, it will NEVER be used here again.  It will take days > to re-install the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are gone, What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:23:48 Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> XTerm.font: 9x15 > >> > >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use > > trutype fonts box. That made the font about 4x

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 11:43:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO > > ncurses emulations.  And that is compulsory! > > Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Siard
Curt: > Siard: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > > lines in it: > > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources ~/.Xresources does not work here (Stretch);

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> XTerm.font: 9x15 >> >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use trutype > fonts box. That made the font about 4x bigger so I was able to set that > back to middle sized. >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:54 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:17:42 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > FWIW. there is a 3rd choice in the system menu, called UXTerm. Looks > > identical to xterm, totally non-configurable like xterm. So thats > > more

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Siard wrote: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > lines in it: > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources should be used. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources -- Hypertext--or

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Michael Lange wrote: > > actually it is not that hard to configure xterm (or other "old-fashioned" > terminal apps), for example to change xterm's font size simply put a line > like > > XTerm.font: 9x15 > > into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Best regards > >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO ncurses > emulations.  And that is compulsory! Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI. Like any other CLI command. The n-curses interface is

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:03 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:17:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Konsole can also be made usable I believe. The std "schema" needs a > > few changes to its current defaults but it can be made quite usable, > > so its a possible alternative. > > > >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
It may depend on the version of apt-get. Version 1.2.13 has apt-get purge avahi-daemon Regards, jvp.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 09:49:11 Martin Read wrote: [...] > xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a > rather obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + > right-drag). Here, its ctrl(left, didn't try right) and what pops up doesn't need a drag, but its

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:37:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:08:54 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > 2 > > > firefox > > > firefox-esr > > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > > months long in the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it gives anti-aliasing and

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 08:42:51 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 12 Jun 2016 at 02:02:45 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 23:04:27 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 11 Jun 2016 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 17:35:11 Lisi Reisz wrote:

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:08:54 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 > > firefox > > firefox-esr > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > months long in the tooth. > > They are different. Uninstall the one you don't want.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Siard
Martin Read: > Gene Heskett: > > Found xterm but it opens a window about 2.75"x3.5", and uses a text > > font so small it gets 80 columns out of that 3.5", so its almost > > unreadable, and has no configuration menus at all over and above what > > I can do to it thru the tde configuration

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:02:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 07:02:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Basically, when you back up > > What does "back up" mean in this context? (Remember that pond, Gene - > or is this Gene-speak or my aphasia???) The small one yes, the Titanic is on the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:17:42 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > FWIW. there is a 3rd choice in the system menu, called UXTerm. Looks > identical to xterm, totally non-configurable like xterm. So thats more > wasted hd space to me. > actually it is not that hard to

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:17:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > Konsole can also be made usable I believe. The std "schema" needs a few > changes to its current defaults but it can be made quite usable, so its > a possible alternative. > > Regards Lisi. Konsole can very easily be made very usable. I use

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:10 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Maybe, but that ncurses face on aptitube is a total turn-off, and > > will be until aptitude figures out how to make ncurses redraw the > > whole screen instead of leave a kilobyte of text

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Martin Read
On 12/06/16 14:23, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:03 Martin Read wrote: If ncurses programs that other people use without incident are screwing up the contents of your terminals, my first port of call would be checking that the value of the TERM environment variable matches

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:00:03 Martin Read wrote: > On 12/06/16 07:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I have never not seen it. On several different mother boards, > > and probably 2x the video cards. If there is a difference, I've not > > a clue. > > If ncurses programs that other people use

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