Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-10-28 at 00:25, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 28/10/2023 02:02, The Wanderer wrote: > >> for the case of hierarchical snapshots > > qemu-img(1) allows to create snapshots of disk images that are stored > in the same file. In addition the "create" command has the "-b > BACKING_FILE" option

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/10/2023 02:02, The Wanderer wrote: for the case of hierarchical snapshots qemu-img(1) allows to create snapshots of disk images that are stored in the same file. In addition the "create" command has the "-b BACKING_FILE" option If the option BACKING_FILE is specified, then the

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 14:46:52 + Minecraftchest1 wrote: > With Virt-Manager, you should have the option to choose an existing > disk image. It can also create a disk image for you. On which you will have to make partitions and file systems. -- Does anybody read signatures any more?

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-10-27 at 10:46, Minecraftchest1 wrote: > With Virt-Manager, you should have the option to choose an existing > disk image. That only helps if you've already created a disk image, which will not be the case when creating a new VM from scratch. Having to resort to the command line (or to

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread Minecraftchest1
With Virt-Manager, you should have the option to choose an existing disk image. In that dialog, you can create an image in any of the pools (you can also add pools in that dialog), and that will let you change the file name and disk size. I am not ay my laptop currently, but I can take and

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:17:46AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-10-26 at 15:28, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Apt-get install virt-manager will pull in all the associated > > qemu/KVM packages you might need. It should be at least as > > straightforward to use as Virtualbox. > > I've

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-10-26 at 15:28, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Apt-get install virt-manager will pull in all the associated > qemu/KVM packages you might need. It should be at least as > straightforward to use as Virtualbox. I've seen people state or suggest multiple times that virt-manager should be, as

Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 26/10/2023 14:39, Hans wrote: Hi folks, is there a very easy way, if I want to install packages from trixie oder sid into my bookworm installation? I read about apt pinning, but as far as I understood, I have to name explicitily each package I want to install from sid. This can be much

Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 03:18:34PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 1:24 PM Hans wrote: > > > > Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2023, 19:03:15 CEST schrieb Michael Kjörling: > > This is interesting information! Looks like KVM and Virt-Manager are better > > and faster than

Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread exceptbees
> Do you know another way, except pinning or my (weired) way? > > Oh, last but not least, I know, Oracle has its own debian-repo for virtualbox, > but it looks somehow not well set up IMHO. The latest version of Virtualbox for bookworm is available from the Fast Track repository [1] [2]. I've

Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2023, 19:03:15 CEST schrieb Michael Kjörling: This is interesting information! Looks like KVM and Virt-Manager are better and faster than Virtualbox. Obviously it seems (regarding to other people), these solutions are more stable, too. That looks great, as I am not

Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 26 Oct 2023 21:37 +0500, from avbe...@gmail.com (Alexander V. Makartsev): > I don't use virtualbox (KVM does everything and more for me) so I can't > vouch for the quality of packages from Oracle. I switched from VirtualBox to KVM at one point; as I recall a Debian kernel upgrade broke

Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.10.2023 18:39, Hans wrote: Hi folks, is there a very easy way, if I want to install packages from trixie oder sid into my bookworm installation? I read about apt pinning, but as far as I understood, I have to name explicitily each package I want to install from sid. This can be much

Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread tomas
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 03:39:23PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > is there a very easy way, if I want to install packages from trixie oder sid > into my bookworm installation? That will depend very much on the package. 1. If you try a naive install, the package will pull in its

EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

2023-10-26 Thread Hans
Hi folks, is there a very easy way, if I want to install packages from trixie oder sid into my bookworm installation? I read about apt pinning, but as far as I understood, I have to name explicitily each package I want to install from sid. This can be much work, when installing a high number