Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-08 Thread Richard Hector
On 8/07/20 5:42 am, John Hasler wrote: > Look at > > https://backports.debian.org/ > > Note that for Firefox you need to go to > > https://mozilla.debian.net/ > I think you'll find that mozilla.debian.net is a bit out of date - it only goes up to stretch. Richard

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-08 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 10:21:48 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:06:08AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Wow, not sure what sparked that response, but I will say one thing, you > > might run testing if your bank insists you have the latest thing > > (browser). > > Well,

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 16:28:16, Gary Dale wrote: > > The package maintainers are who make packages stable, not the product > developers. Hmm... > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. For the particular software named "Firefox" there is. It's Mozil

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Keith bainbridge
On 7/7/20 1:26 pm, Keith bainbridge wrote: On 7/7/20 8:20 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer versio

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 davidson wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 20:39:05 (+0100), Joe wrote: > Yes, my bank occasionally becomes inaccessible to FF, though not > usually for more than about a week, when a cluebat has been wielded. I > switch to Midori until it is fixed. It's a more limited browser, but it > usually seems to handle sites th

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of having fir

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Gary Dale wrote: > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. The maintainers just need to install the bug fix patches > created to fix the bugs in that particular version. This is exactly what > they do when significant bugs are found in the stable ver

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 04:28:16PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > There is nothing to prevent a none-esr version of Firefox from making it > into stable. There are several things I can think of. One of them is "common sense". Another one is "Debian policy". But you can't hear anything that violates y

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-07 09:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of having firefox and firefox_esr available and br

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:10:54 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 07 iul 20, 09:26:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit > > union) last > > Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and blocked > > me. > > > > it was far fr

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 07 iul 20, 09:26:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit > union) last > Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and blocked me. > > it was far from painless but a couple links to the security statements in > the Debian Wi

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Look at https://backports.debian.org/ Note that for Firefox you need to go to https://mozilla.debian.net/ -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 01:25:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > And the 'deb' line in sources.list for stretches backports is? https://www.google.com/search?q=debian%20backports%20stretch https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ Once you find the instructions for buster, just replace "buster"

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 12:32:39 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a > > big enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even > > before the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the > > distros shoul

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 12:26:58 Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: > >> On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > If y

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then Debian

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a big > enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even before > the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the distros should > turn up the heat to get it out into the users hands asap.

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > > Debian is not meant for you. > > >

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > but I will say one thing, you might run testing if your bank insists > you have the latest thing (browser). Get a browser from Backports. Or use Chromium. You're probably allowing Google full access anyway. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > Debian is not meant for you. > > Wow, not sure what sparked that response, Probably the fact th

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:06:08AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > > Debian is not meant for you. > > Wow, not sure what sparked that response, but I will say one

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then > Debian is not meant for you. Wow, not sure what sparked that response, but I will say one thing, you might run testing if your bank insists you have the latest thing (

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I did install it and it is a single package. It runs fine in parallel with > the esr release. Hopefully the maintainers will continue the practice of > having firefox and firefox_esr available and bring it to Testing. You don't understan

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-07 02:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 iul 20, 23:33:46, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-07-06 20:00, Bob Weber wrote: Firefox 78 is in unstable.  I run testing but I occasionally pick up things in unstable if they don't mess up testing like firefox.  I have used it for a while mainly wa

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:26:32PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] > >You're not disallowed from installing Firefox from Mozilla, it's > >just not packaged because [... stable ...] > Not disallowed but not exactly allowed. By whom? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iul 20, 23:33:46, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2020-07-06 20:00, Bob Weber wrote: > > > > Firefox 78 is in unstable.  I run testing but I occasionally pick up > > things in unstable if they don't mess up testing like firefox.  I have > > used it for a while mainly watching Netflix and for other

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Keith bainbridge
On 7/7/20 8:20 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. An updated (non-ESR) version of Firefox wo

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-06 20:00, Bob Weber wrote: On 7/6/20 5:28 PM, Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. While generally the

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-07-06 18:20, Dan Ritter wrote: Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. An updated (non-ESR) version of Firefox

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Bob Weber
On 7/6/20 5:28 PM, Gary Dale wrote: This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. While generally the pages I create look pretty much the sam

Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Gary Dale wrote: > This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only > version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that > I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. > > An updated (non-ESR) version of Firefox would allow me to figure out wh

Firefox non-ESR update needed

2020-07-06 Thread Gary Dale
This is a wish-list feature but I'm running Debian/Bullseye and the only version of Firefox is the ESR one. It's stable but it has display bugs that I'd like to if they are fixed in a newer version. While generally the pages I create look pretty much the same on whatever browser I use, I have