Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 6:26 AM Curt wrote: > > On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote: > > > > I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude. > > I'm Curt. Let's be serious. You be Frank and I'll be Earnest.

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 2024-04-22, Reid wrote: > > I'm sorry I irked you so much Curt, but you don't have to be rude. I'm Curt.

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:02:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html > >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > > but perhaps without all the decepti

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

>> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > but perhaps without all the deception crap, unless you really mean > to impugn the developers' motives. Yu

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > That's probably a bug in Calamares. I checked with one of the live cd > maintainers on this. As has been pointed out, the live cd is really > intended more for checking than for major use but it does need some work. > If you found the non-free components - where were th

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

- Original message - From: Curt > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> How can you be taken seriously when you can't even wrap your lines >> according to our venerable guidelines? >> Get a popular setting going, buddy. >> >> And, though it's true I extolled Proust recently, being succinct

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:31:03AM -0700, Reid wrote: > Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org > website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very > Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, >

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 2024-04-22, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I endure this on many other mailing lists unrelated to Debian, > particularly from groups.io that have a Web interface. It's a violation of Debian mailing list posting rules, guidelines, and tips. It irks me that in certain cases these guidelines are evoke

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

* On 2024 22 Apr 09:39 -0500, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy",

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 2024-04-22, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >>> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >>> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >>> not what the Debian.or

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >> not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We > Are / What We Do" pages are current

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Sun Apr 21, 2024 at 9:58 PM BST, Reid wrote: > If the Installers are not ALL going to give users the choice to opt-in > or opt-out of non-free components, then those above-mentioned > promotional pages really need to be updated so as to not be misleading > users. I'm sure the Debian WWW team wo

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 21 Apr 2024 13:58 -0700, from reid...@proinbox.com (Reid): > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX > pages of release notes and guides in order to learn that what > they're installing is not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", > "Our Philosophy", and "Who We Are

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Sun 21 Apr 2024 at 21:59:21 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html > > Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? but perhaps without all the deception crap, un

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

> Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? Stefan

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html - Original message - From: fxkl4...@protonmail.com Date: Sunday, April 21, 2024 3:52 PM do you think the debian gods are listening On Sun, 21 Ap

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> If Debian is going to continue promoting itself with those "Our Philosophy" >> and "Why Debian" pages, there should at least be opt-ins during the >> installation process of every Debian download, as well as prominent warnings >> of the new policy on t

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

> If Debian is going to continue promoting itself with those "Our Philosophy" > and "Why Debian" pages, there should at least be opt-ins during the > installation process of every Debian download, as well as prominent warnings > of the new policy on the download pages. Agreed. It should be easy t

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We Are / What We Do" pages are currently promoting Debian as. That's not

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

On 21 Apr 2024 11:31 -0700, from reid...@proinbox.com (Reid): > I'm a 10+ year Debian user, and a longtime Free Software supporter. > Two weeks ago I was shocked to discover 29 non-free components in > the Debian desktop I'd been using for the last couple months. There > had

Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, and the reasons why I believe Debian must re-word their promotiona

Don't feed the troll [was: FSF is not really free software (?)]

On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 07:11:45AM -0500, Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > I’d recommend contacting FSF for FSF questions, not Debian. And I'd recommend against feeding trolls. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: FSF is not really free software (?)

I’d recommend contacting FSF for FSF questions, not Debian. On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 7:08 AM philip pocock wrote: > "While many groups and individuals have contributed to Linux, the largest > single contributor is still the Free Software Foundation, which created not > only most of

FSF is not really free software (?)

"While many groups and individuals have contributed to Linux, the largest single contributor is still the Free Software Foundation, which created not only most of the tools used in Linux, but also the philosophy and the community that made Linux possible." -- https://www.debian.org/relea

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

On 2021-01-22 19:31, Pankaj Jangid wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2021-01-21 21:06, Pankaj Jangid wrote: I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them a couple of years back to experiment with

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

David Christensen writes: > On 2021-01-21 21:06, Pankaj Jangid wrote: >> I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI >> Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them >> a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining >> technolog

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

On 2021-01-21 21:06, Pankaj Jangid wrote: I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining technologies. I want these cards to be put to us

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

Steven Mainor writes: > Well I can say that I have a ryzen 7 2700X in my desktop and I am very happy > with it. I don't know what question specifically I can answer for you but I > have no complaints about it. > > I would look for a motherboard with components(sound, sensors, network > contro

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 06:39:45 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: ... > The AMD cards probably don't function without a firmware blob, > even with otherwise open-source drivers. Depends what you mean by "function" :) IIRC, my system with an RX-570 would boot to console without the firmware packages install

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:36:11AM +0530, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI > Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them > a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining > technologies. > Ther

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I don???t want any proprietary software to run on these systems. And hence > exploring possibilities. My questions: > > 1. I had a look at i7 and Ryzen 7. For multi-threading applications, it >appears that Ryzen is better choice because it allows more number of >sim

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

Pankaj Jangid wrote: > 3. I’ll also put these machine to serve local copy of all my data. I’ll > synchronize it with some cloud space. I need recommendations for > reliable hard disks. A combination of SSD/HDD to balance between > cost, performance and reliability will probably be best. But I real

Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

On Friday, January 22, 2021 12:06:11 AM EST Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI > Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them > a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining > technologies. > > I

Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining technologies. I want these cards to be put to use for experimenting with multi-threading wor

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

+run on it. I am looking for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration or proprietary servers. [...] So far, I found that there is a software called `partkeeper` which despite having a seemingly very complex user interface, goes in the direction of what I am searching. In

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

such a thing? Of course, it is best if it is included on Debian, even better if in stable :) . If not, it should at least compile+run on it. I am looking for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration or proprietary servers. I'm not entirely sure it'll tick all the

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

us asking if anybody might know such a thing? Of >>> course, it is best if it is included on Debian, even better if in >>> stable :) . If not, it should at least compile+run on it. I am looking >>> for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration >>>

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:59:45 +0100 Linux-Fan wrote: > Current alternatives if I do not find anything better: > > * Try to design some forms with Libreoffice Base. >I know that I tried that once already and it did not go so well. Even today, Base is extremely buggy, though at least it conn

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

better if in stable :) . If not, it should at least compile+run on it. I am looking for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration or proprietary servers. I'm not entirely sure it'll tick all the boxes you need (in terms of functionality); but what about "partk

Re: Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

le :) . If not, it should at least compile+run on it. I am looking > for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration > or proprietary servers. I'm not entirely sure it'll tick all the boxes you need (in terms of functionality); but what about "partkeep

Looking for an inventory software which is free software and not IT-centric

looking for free software (as per DFSG) that does not depend on registration or proprietary servers. ## The problem I am trying to keep track of a local inventory (say 1000 items) for which I would like to keep track of the location and descriptive details ("What it is and where it is"). #

Re: Truth in Software: Alexandre François Garreau: Will you try my free-software before condemning it. -- Threats of being "banned from conferences"

nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > Oh great, threats and power-plays. > > Alexandre François Garreau: Got curious who is lexandre François Garreau https://hackernoon.com/avatars/2G4JnXIXjRVO9GPsF8rTiRgmEUm1.png :D :D :D :D Brother, I don't know you, but please, relax! There are 1000s of that ki

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

Mark Allums writes: > The onus is not on me to provide reasons. I simply asked for more > info. You initially asked for reasons; reasons were given. You haven't responded to those, from what I can see, and AFAICT they answer the initial reuest adequately. As best I can tell, a reasonable person

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Saturday 18 May 2019 04:27:43 am Dominik George wrote: > No. I, for one, do not care much who owns GitHub. > > Most of what's wrong there can be explained by stupidity or lack of > care rather than being evil. > > And most companies seem to make one common mistake when it comes to > diversity:

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 02:37:09PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:19:35 +0200 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >I'm not sure I should interpret that as trolling, misunderstanding > >about what inclusive policies mean or what. > > More like reductio ad absurdum. The

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:19:35 +0200 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >I'm not sure I should interpret that as trolling, misunderstanding >about what inclusive policies mean or what. More like reductio ad absurdum. The point is, legislation cannot do away with discrimination. -- Regards _

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 11:52:50AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 18 May 2019 10:27:43 +0200 > Dominik George wrote: > > Hello Dominik, > > >trans people, or the disabled. They don't get that choosing a set of > >people to include, instead of removing *all* barriers, is > >discrimination ra

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Sat, 18 May 2019 10:27:43 +0200 Dominik George wrote: Hello Dominik, >trans people, or the disabled. They don't get that choosing a set of >people to include, instead of removing *all* barriers, is >discrimination rather than inclusion. The problem is that, in some countries, to combat disc

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:51:40AM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > >Yes, it does. Despite what others have said, there is a beneficial > >patent > >exhaustion effect. If software with patented algorithms is > >distributed by the > >patent owner, for example by Microsoft via GitHub, the patent is

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

Hi there On 17/05/2019 09:28, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software Please explain, in detail, why. If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's why: https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html An overview;

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

>Yes, it does. Despite what others have said, there is a beneficial >patent >exhaustion effect. If software with patented algorithms is >distributed by the >patent owner, for example by Microsoft via GitHub, the patent is >exhausted. >https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/patent_exhaustion/ Ye

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Fri 17/May/2019 17:52:02 +0200 rhkramer wrote: > On Friday, May 17, 2019 03:28:51 AM Dominik George wrote: >> >> please do*never* use GitHub for free software >> > >> >Please explain, in detail, why. >> >> If discrimination against parts of the c

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

Hi, >Why do these restrictions exist? The reason most social media services >use an >age limit of 13 or over is in part because of a law in the USA. The >COPPA law >or Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act states that any >organisations or >people operating online services (including social me

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 2019-05-18, Richard Hector wrote: > > I'm not going to read them again, but IIRC one of them referred to the > GitHub ToC, which contained a bit about restricting accounts to those > over 13 years of age, and claiming this was due to US law (but not > specifying which law). https://en.wikipedi

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

No. I, for one, do not care much who owns GitHub. Most of what's wrong there can be explained by stupidity or lack of care rather than being evil. And most companies seem to make one common mistake when it comes to diversity: They mistake diversity for caring for certain groups of people, often

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

Hi. On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 01:53:30AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > On 5/17/19 10:43 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > Mark Allums writes: > > > > > On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: > > > > > Please explain, in detail, why. > > > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html > > > > htt

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 5/17/19 10:43 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Mark Allums writes: On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: Please explain, in detail, why. https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/ https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e2017030

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

icles you gave, and I still do not see > anything about discrimination by age, or against any group of people, > only the usual issues with hosting free software on/with non-free > services (which reason enough to avoid GitHub). > I'm not going to read them again, but IIRC one of t

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

tion by age, or against any group of people, only the usual issues with hosting free software on/with non-free services (which reason enough to avoid GitHub).

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

Mark Allums writes: > On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: > >> Please explain, in detail, why. > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html > > https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/ > > https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm > > I'm not conv

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:57:55 +0200 Dominik George wrote: > >Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the > >intellectual property of the software? > > No. > No, not now But when, matter of time I guess. Been there, done that.

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

>Can you give sources for your claim about their discrimination?  That >one is new to me. I did. Please read my mails in this thread. -nik

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 17/05/19 7:28 PM, Dominik George wrote: >>> please do*never* use GitHub for free software >> Please explain, in detail, why. > If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, > here's why: > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.h

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 11:52:02AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the > intellectual property of the software? Absolutely not. *If* there's a strategy behind that (there might be, to the tune of $7.5B), it has to be more s

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

>Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the >intellectual property of the software? No.

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Friday, May 17, 2019 03:28:51 AM Dominik George wrote: > >> please do*never* use GitHub for free software > > > >Please explain, in detail, why. > > If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, > here's why: > > htt

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 17/05/2019 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:28:51AM +0200, Dominik George wrote: >>>> please do*never* use GitHub for free software > > [links] > > Thanks for the links. Up to now, I avoided Github mainly because > I'm always w

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:28:51AM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > >> please do*never* use GitHub for free software [links] Thanks for the links. Up to now, I avoided Github mainly because I'm always wary of those "open core", which pay lip service to "Open Source

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software Please explain, in detail, why. If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's why: https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html https://www.adamhyde.net/another

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

>> please do*never* use GitHub for free software > >Please explain, in detail, why. If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's why: https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-u

please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

On 5/16/19 11:34 AM, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software Please explain, in detail, why. Mark

Re: free software to paid work

On 30/03/2019 21:44, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Thu, 2019-03-28 at 09:25 +, Paul Sutton wrote: >> In an effort to reach out to people and recruit much needed help for >> contributors to free software, I just wondered if there were any >> examples of where people have ga

Re: free software to paid work

On Thu, 2019-03-28 at 09:25 +, Paul Sutton wrote: > In an effort to reach out to people and recruit much needed help for > contributors to free software, I just wondered if there were any > examples of where people have gained either full time work or full > time education places

free software to paid work

Hi Not sure if this is really the right place for this. In an effort to reach out to people and recruit much needed help for contributors to free software,  I just wondered if there were any examples of where  people have gained either full time work or full time education places as a result of

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:09:44 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez sent: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > > > > AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally > > mentioned in the bug report > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 16:18:01 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:24:19 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 03:00:07PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:43:03 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said: > > > > [...] > > > > > > It s

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Monday 30 April 2018 10:09:44 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > > AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally > > mentioned in the bug report > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 > > >

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > > AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally mentioned in > the bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 > > That aside, the question of whether it will ever get fixed in upstre

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 03:00:07PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:43:03 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said: [...] > > It seems this issue is fixed upstream. Would you like to check that? > > > > Tone down. Apply Hanlon's razor

Re: Bug#896806: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

whatnot. It seems this issue is fixed upstream. Would you like to check that? Tone down. Apply Hanlon's razor generously. It's good this has been noticed and pointed out -- but making a flamefest of it is, in the end, counter-productive. Systemd is free software after all, even if some of

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, Martin Hanson wrote: > I have posted this bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been > rejected by the maintainer. > > Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some > experience with legal issues and AFAIK, there IS

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Sun 29 Apr 2018 at 18:53:08 +0200, Martin Hanson wrote: > I am posting this to the mailing list in order to get "more eyes on > the issue". The right kind of eyes, of course. -- Brian.

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

Hi. On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 06:53:08PM +0200, Martin Hanson wrote: > I have posted this bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been > rejected by the maintainer. > > Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some > experience

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Sun 29 Apr 2018 at 18:53:08 +0200, Martin Hanson wrote: > I have posted this bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been > rejected by the maintainer. > > Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some > experience with legal issues

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 18:53:08 +0200 Martin Hanson wrote: Hello Martin, >I am posting this to the mailing list in order to get "more eyes on the >issue". I'd suggest posting it on Debian legal, as well as (in preference to?) here. I suspect that there are far more ppl there capable of analysing

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 06:53:08PM +0200, Martin Hanson wrote: > I have posted this bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been > rejected by the maintainer. > > Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely

systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

I have posted this bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been rejected by the maintainer. Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some experience with legal issues and AFAIK, there IS a problem here. I am posting this to the mailing

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 03:02:17PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > [...] > >> And yet ... other people feel there should be "One Software to Rule Them >> All". It's a bit discouraging. I like the legoblocks approach; hope >> enough others d

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 03:02:17PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > And yet ... other people feel there should be "One Software to Rule Them > All". It's a bit discouraging. I like the legoblocks approach; hope > enough others do to keep that idea

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:11:26PM +, Joe wrote: > > [...] > >> For example, I use Network Manager on my portable Debians, a practice >> which causes many people to hiss and hold up crossed fingers, > > *hiss* X X X Beat me to it :) >

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:11:26PM +, Joe wrote: [...] > For example, I use Network Manager on my portable Debians, a practice > which causes many people to hiss and hold up crossed fingers, *hiss* X X X ;-) > but I find that it Works For Me.

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 18:46:15 +0100 Pablo Castillo Rivas wrote: > > Probably you're looking for this: > > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software > > > > > > Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed. >

Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 06:46:15PM +0100, Pablo Castillo Rivas wrote: > > Probably you're looking for this: > > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software > > > > > > Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed.

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

bian because of multiple reasons. The case is that I miss in > Debian some kind of software center like Linux Mint or Ubuntu have. > > Here is an example of what I miss. Lets say I want a video editor but I > don't know any. I would like to have some software where I can find free &

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

On Wednesday 27 December 2017 10:47:14 Matthew Crews wrote: > >Here is an example of what I miss. Lets say I want a video editor but > > I don't know any. I would like to have some software where I can > > find free software suggestions classified by category and by user &

Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

> Probably you're looking for this: > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software > > Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed. Thanks. Since it is an easy, time-saving way to find apps, why isn't something li

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017, Pablo Castillo Rivas wrote: > software suggestions classified by category and by user rating. A system of user ratings like this on debian would be a fairly narrow sample, because the user would have to also use the "software center" to provide the rating for the software

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

Hi. On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 03:33:36PM +0100, Pablo Castillo Rivas wrote: > Hi, > > This is the first time I use Debian lists. I hope I open this thread in the > right place. Otherwise let me know ;) This is the right place indeed. > I has been using Linux Mint for a couple of months a

Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

>Here is an example of what I miss. Lets say I want a video editor but I don't >know any. I would like to have some software where I can find free software >suggestions classified by category and by user rating. >I know there is Synaptic but I miss user rating and it shows

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